ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct

[heniek31]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Was on both of em :clap:clap:clap. You are the man Mr I :ok. Im also happy, that Lopez is through. Racing Post tipped him @200 and I took a bait e/w. If he beats Nadal (big if of course), he will have a great chance to get to the final :hope.

[Mr Intensity]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Cheers mate:ok Good luck with Lopez tomorrow, you'll need it:lol:lol

[radevd]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Bet365 offers us good coeficients: Monfils +4 @ 1.90 I expect a very close match here. Monfils is showing good work this week. He got a very good passing shot and enjoys tight moments of the match. Murray stiill didn't met opponents who could cause him problems. Monfils should mix it up, because on baseline Andy looks better than his opponent. Even Murray wins it will be close ( I suppose 3 sets ), and nos 6-1,6-2 scores here. Federer 2-0 @ 1.66 Everybody talks abot rising star JM Del Potro, but I'm a bit pessimistic. When argentinian meet player with big serve and stron forehand he gets problems ( Murray, Berdych ). Federer showed fantastic game against Tsonga yesterday. Their last meetings have been one-sided, so I predict no prblems for master Roger here.

ATP, Davis Cup and Grand Slam Main Draw Results
2007	Basel Switzerland	Hard	R16	Federer	6-1 6-4
2007	Wimbledon Great Britain	Grass	R64	Federer	6-2 7-5 6-1

[KurtFurtmustahl]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct

Good day today hitting Lopez and Karlovic:ok the only loser being Ginepri 8-6 in finals et tie break:sad

tell what man! i placed a crazy combo yesterday: monfils lopez peneta ginepri germany handball and gini only one to miss @52

[Mr Intensity]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct

tell what man! i placed a crazy combo yesterday: monfils lopez peneta ginepri germany handball and gini only one to miss @52

:sad:sad:sad Don't play combo's you would have been loaded with singles!:loon:loon:loon

[AndrewMurray]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Del Potro @4 betfair to beat federer last night federer performed decent tennis, but have to point out that tsonga was underperforming, apart from others, he commited suicide in first set when he offered it to fed by doing 3:spank double faults! at the deciding game Del potro is able to battle here, providing that he will not choke in front if the giant, that what is he doing normally when opposide is a top player-remind you us open against murray- this pick idea is to be used only for trading reasons: back del potro, wish luck to push him in first set, and then lay him but for me, as just betting, is total nonsense to bet against federer, who plays enough to destroy everybody here as for simon, is no bet game for me, he is a lucky drawer, with no serious opponents so far, he is one step before semis, i wish luck to go away from him ,coz he provoked my nerve system yesterday till the final win:lol in women, flavia penneta is very very good choice, but as usually iwill stay away Schiavone @7.6 to beat williams is extraordary provoking price in my eyes and i will trade it, with small ammounts of money:dude murray v monfils 2-0 win for murray-no money placing- i will be focus elsewhere today

[AndrewMurray]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct off topic i was reading this forum a couple of years ago, there was a guy with nickname "donald duck" from sweden if i remember correct does anyone knows why he stopped working here? is just a wonder coz he was every day here thnx

[Mr Intensity]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct

off topic i was reading this forum a couple of years ago, there was a guy with nickname "donald duck" from sweden if i remember correct does anyone knows why he stopped working here? is just a wonder coz he was every day here thnx

He wasn't around that long was he? He was mostly posting in a period when I wasn't here. Then he just seemed to stop posting even though he was a mod:unsure

[Tipping Star]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct F Pennetta - K Srebotnik Tennis - WTA Zurich Pick: Katarina Srebotnik ML Result: Pending Stake: 8/10 Odds: 2.40 Bookmaker: 5dimes - Flavia Pennetta: Is born as clay court player as most of the Italian players, training since 2003 in Barcelona(Spain) that is the country of the clay's specialists, she plays only on the baseline and has two competitive and solid blows, of course she has not the power or the winners as a top player but when she is in shape is a very tough player to face because she gives you nothing free playing on very solid way. Has on backhand her best blow, service and forehand are two normal blows. As said she loves to play on clay courts and has won five of her six wta tournaments on that surface, showing that is decidedly her best surface to play. But especially this year she has started to do very good performance also on fast surfaces, playing more aggressive and reaching results as the final in wta Los Angeles, 1/4 at US Open and some more, beating also for ex. players as Venus Williams and yesterday Jelena Jankovic. On this tournament she is playing pretty well, beating Nadia Petrova on the first round and as said yesterday Jelena Jankovic, the numer one of the world, even if there's to say that the Serb was extremely tired playing on Zurich the third tournament in a row after winning Stuttgart and Moskow, all the credits to Pennetta, but also not really the best Jankovic or at least the Jankovic that we saw on the last weeks. - Katarina Srebotnik: Is a very different player regarding Flavia Pennetta, because she bases her tennis and her season on fast surfaces, having a very good service, of course Top 5 on wta tour and a very aggressive tennis, trying to find always the winner and the approach to go to the net, where she plays really fantastic seen that is also a top player on the wta doubles ranking. The start of the season for her has not been really good having so many phisical problems, but right now she is back decidedly in shape reaching solid results and losing most of the times very close match to top players as Dementieva, Kuznetsova, Schnyder etc. On this tournament she has won pretty easy her first round against home's WC Bacsinszky ans yesterday a very intensive battle against another top player as Agniezska adwanska, showing a very good tennis and confidence on the top moments of the match. - H2H: Tied at 2:2 The last meeting has been in 2005, three years ago and then in my opinion the meetings between them aren't a factor on this match, because right now they are otherplayers regarding what they were three years ago, the only strange thing is that two meetings havebeen played here in Zurich, the first time in 2004 won the Italian and the last time won the Slovenian. - Comment: The odds are always the key of the comment and in my opinion are too much canted on Flavia Pennetta, this because yesterday she has defeated Jelena Jankovic and most ofthe punters(Never forget that the bookies most of the times don't do the right odds or at least the line that they believe correct, but the line is almost ever based on what the punters ask to bet) and of course on this match the most of the bettors will give confidence on her for that result against Jankovic, but as said the Serb was very far to her best showed on the last two weeks and this on that match has been in my opinion the key e then that results could be too much important on the odds and not on the right way. Also if the Italian is playing well in my opinion she could'nt almost never been favorite indoors against a player as Srebotnik, because this last one as the characteristics to play extremely well here, has a better records on this surface and she is too on a very good moment as showed yesterday against Radwanka and also in Moskow losing just 6:7 on the final set against big home's fav Elena Dementieva. Finally in my opinion is a very close match of course, both are playing extrmely well and there's no correct analisys that allow me to think that Pennetta's price is close to the reality. Best Regards Tipping Star

[Mr Intensity]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct :welcome to PL Tipping Star. Great first post!:loon

[Blatch]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Another good win for Andy Murray today. Expect Fed, Nadal to join him in Semis

[radevd]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Gilles Simon @ 2.25 A tight match here against Karlovic, but I can not back Dr.Ivo here. He's one of the guys whose game is based 95 % procent on serve, but Simon is a good "pusher" and returner. When you're playing against Karlovic you don't need to make winners and this is Simon's style. Ivo is in godd mood after Djokovic, but he never approached final stages of the tournament even when he has beaten Federer in Cincinnati. Their last meeting in Nottingham on grass was won by Karlovic, but on hardcourt is not grass and then Ivo had 30 aces, winning 4/4 breakpoints, I'm not sure croatian can repeat it today. Straigh win for Federer, as I predicted, but Murray-Monfils turned out to be one-sided. :\

[AndrewMurray]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Karlovic @1.67 to beat lucky drawer simon i am confident about this bet, after i watched all prervious matches of the french, and the one of karlovic over djoko croat simply serves like hell, i dont see how could lose his serve, hope to see 2 tie breaks 76 76, just to have pleasure iam placing big stakes :ok

[radevd]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Heh it turned out Simon to be the guy who likes tie-breaks. Nadal-Simon More than 19.5 games ( per match ) 1.72 Bet365 Of course I think Nadal will take this one. But I also think he will struggle. First Simon likes 3 sets matches as we see. He has a great confidence, got a good backhand and serve. So I don't see a reason why who couldn't take a lot of games on his serve. Nadal this tournament played close matches I mean there were no 6-1 or 6-2. Federer 1.36 I don't need to remind you US Open final, Federer simply will outclass Murray. He has serve, great forehand, guns that Andrew doesn't possess. Roger plays awesome tennis last couple matches and I think even Rafa won't be able to stop him. :clap

[AndrewMurray]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct hello hello bulgaria boy! how are you doing? i see you wake up very early! sorry to call you as boy, is because i have double age than you! well, simon is the fenemenon of this tournament, thats for sure! why? because i NEVER watched a player i dont fancy at all-like simon- for 4 matches in a row! oowwwwwwooo:rollin:rollin guys, if i beleive the rumours, simon, may progress against nadal! how? nadal to retire lolllllllllllllllllllll hehehe:rollin anyway, small doupts about nadal physical condition today, Penneta again is banker, its amazing how she hit the balls, astonishing power for woman... Murray @3.35 back at betfair looks as the ideal for trading today, both players in top form, to make trading "work", murray MUST take the lead in sets, then many many opportunities for laying, and secure profit no matter who will be the final winner WARNING! this is not betting suggestion, roger looks great, he may trash murray, but andy is not del potro, is much stronger tennis personality, he is definitely in position to make the life difficult for federer, thats what i hope!:ok have a nice weekend

[Mr Intensity]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct MURRAY @ 3.6 Betfair. OK, so Federer thumped Murray in the US Open final, but I'm willing to put that down to it being the US Open final! Federer had all of the experience of that stage, and Murray was coming off the biggest win of his life against Nadal. Here the situation is very different, and gives Murray a much better chance of getting the win. He's already beaten Federer twice and shouldn't have much fear going into this. Both of them have shown some very good form this week, and this should be a really high quality match. I just don't think there's a massive amount between them, and anything above 3.00 looks good for Murray.

[Mr Intensity]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct IVANOVIC @ 2.75 Coral. This just looks a little big. Ivanovic has been woeful since the French Open, but has got a couple of wins this week and should be pretty fresh for this part of the season - could be capable of a big win. Her game has looked pretty decent this week and I fancy her to put in a good performance today. H2H is 4-1 to Venus but Ivanovic won the last one in a big match at the Aussie Open. Venus has been tough to phathom out in this part of the season. She looked decent in Stuttgart before falling away against Jankovic, then lost first round to Pennetta last week. This week she's got a couple of wins, but has lostserve quite a few times and generally has looked a bit ragged. I think this will be close and Ivanovic could get her end-of-season going here.

[AndrewMurray]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct impressive game :D murray is the future number one-as i predicted from year 2006- he is very near now, nadal no way to stay there for long time, one collapse of him in roland garros, and everything is over for him murray will give the lesson tomorrow to nadal- i give nil chances to simon, only if nadal retires,simon will progress- what a day , great great :dude

[Mr Intensity]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Good day hitting the big price on Murray and Ivanovic was close:sad

murray will give the lesson tomorrow to nadal- i give nil chances to simon, only if nadal retires,simon will progress-

I stopped making statements like this quite a while ago:lol:lol

[radevd]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Mr Intensity, Bukic, A.Murray and others guy. From now my favourite player Gulbis is replaced by one guy: GILLES SIMON GILLES SIMON GILLES SIMON GILLES SIMON You have no idea how this guy saved me. I losed a lot from Federer and bet money on 13.00 coeficient when Rafa was up a break in first set. I have the intuition God premonition it would Simon's day. Andrew Murray you were right about Murray :tongue2 bravo for you. 6-5,6-6, 4-1 in tie-break for Nadal. Oh it's an exstasy. I wasn't so happy so long time. To catch 13 coeficient. :clap I will back Gilles tomorrow, but now I will sleep.

[Mr Intensity]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct Glad you had a good day:loon:ok

[Mr Intensity]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct PENNETTA @ 3.6 Pinnacle. Very easy play for me to make at this price. Pennetta has been exceptional all week, and backed up the huge win over Jankovic with very solid wins over Srebotnik and Medina Garrigues. She beat Venus last week in Moscow and that took the H2H to 3-1 in Pennetta's favour. Venus, as I mentioned before the Ivanovic game, has looked good at times the past few weeks but also looked ragged at times. This was true in her semi too, but she got it together and Ivanovic played one really bad service game at *3-4. I see this one being close, and honestly I see Pennetta around 2.50 - 2.75 for this.

[radevd]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct

PENNETTA @ 3.6 Pinnacle. Very easy play for me to make at this price. Pennetta has been exceptional all week' date= and backed up the huge win over Jankovic with very solid wins over Srebotnik and Medina Garrigues. She beat Venus last week in Moscow and that took the H2H to 3-1 in Pennetta's favour. Venus, as I mentioned before the Ivanovic game, has looked good at times the past few weeks but also looked ragged at times. This was true in her semi too, but she got it together and Ivanovic played one really bad service game at *3-4. I see this one being close, and honestly I see Pennetta around 2.50 - 2.75 for this.

I remember their recent match in Moscow if I'm not wrong and Penneta won in 3 sets. She has beaten as you said No 1 Jankovic, and she's in exceptional form. Simon @ 4.33 I just can not understand this price. Simon is a fighter like Murray they are quite similar players. I think Andrew is better than Simon, but not this tournament. Simon showed yesterday how to make Nadal make unfforced errors. Murray impressed with good serve, but frenchman is an exceptional returner. I simply think it's a tight match and will believe my instinct. It's worth bettin also over 21.5. In H2H they are 1-1, but on claycourts, so this is their their hardcourt first meeting. Simon also likes to be underdog no one expects win from him today. :notworthy Go,go Gilles !

[AndrewMurray]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct today winners : Pennetta, and Murray few words about nadal yesterday, well, he was performing as the worst number one ever...a dead body and nothing else...especially at the deciding tie break, he couldnt move even his legs and his hands....where was the famous nadal's power? ? i think the guy is problematic, i dont know what exactly is happening, but dedinitely this one is the worst i say, the worst number one ever appeared in courts simon, nothing special really, circumstances pushed him here, and not his tennis, which is average in my eyes Murray to give him the lesson today @1.40:nana value price, coz simon also was very bad physically Pennetta should it also @3.4:ok i am moving my mind now at the davidoff swiss, and the first round match between baghdatis granollers, :D, have to study this and come tomorrow see you :dude

[Bukic]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct hehe nice win radevd but i win today your boy simong will fall:P h2h between this 2 players is 1-1 in 2007 2-1 win for simon 6-1 1-6 6-3 and this year maray won 2-0 6-3 6-3 in hamburg both players yesterday had very hard matches and also they are two big fighters but i will going for murray win and murrey will have bigger suport in madrid cause simon win over spanish nadal:P hehe gl about penneta -williams h2h is 3-1 for pennte if u remember i backed penneta in kremlin cup with odds 4.5 and she won :P but now i thnik its time for revenage good results this year for williams and penneta williams this year 1/4 in roma won in wimbledon 1/4 in olympic 1/4 us open 1/2 in stutgart and now final in zuruch penneta also good results 1/4 us open 1/4 moscow 1/4 bali and now zuruch:D i will going for williams win gl

[radevd]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct

hehe nice win radevd but i win today your boy simong will fall:P h2h between this 2 players is 1-1 in 2007 2-1 win for simon 6-1 1-6 6-3 and this year maray won 2-0 6-3 6-3 in hamburg both players yesterday had very hard matches and also they are two big fighters but i will going for murray win and murrey will have bigger suport in madrid cause simon win over spanish nadal:P hehe gl l

:dude Hope my boy to prove you wrong.

[Aidybhoy]

Re: ATP Madrid & WTA Zurich 12th - 19th Oct I will be having a bet on Murray today simply due to his class and his chance to win 2 Masters on the bounce. Since he was out last year with his wrist injury he has improved month upon month and obviously missing out at Shanghai last year was a real sickener so he has upped his game to ensure qualification this year. As much as I admire Simon as a player who never gives up, he may have met his match in Murray. Admittedly the same can be said for Nadal but he seemed to be carrying an injury yesterday (shoulder :unsure) and was definetly not the same player as the first half of the season. Murray can be a slow starter at times so in this respect I will not be touching the straight sets betting. Outright will do fine for me. Double that with Higgins in the snooker and it could be a good wee day for the jocks :dude