kevshat Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Great to see so much interets in the cricket. Bodes well for the World Cup. Best of luck to everyone and especially the England team! Couldn't agree more. Been pretty lonely in these threads for the last few months, great to see others getting involved :ok Good luck to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International And because I like placing bets: Ricky Ponting 39pts & over 1.83 365 Still in good form for Australia and will field in the slips. A catch means he'll need just 30 with the bat, and if he takes 2, which is possible, that drops to 20. The key though is he's in good form and has a good record at the MCG. A few bets for this game, will be interesting to see which of mine win and lose. Fairly new to these types of betting, so will be good to look back and see where I'm going wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 11, 2007 Author Share Posted January 11, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International And because I like placing bets: Ricky Ponting 39pts & over 1.83 365 Still in good form for Australia and will field in the slips. A catch means he'll need just 30 with the bat, and if he takes 2, which is possible, that drops to 20. The key though is he's in good form and has a good record at the MCG. A few bets for this game, will be interesting to see which of mine win and lose. Fairly new to these types of betting, so will be good to look back and see where I'm going wrong. Going well so far mate. Very impressive. Look forward to seeing your P/L margins after a few matches :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Heading down to the game today and should be absolutely electrifying with 80,000+ expected. Im hoping England win the toss and bat first so Australia can wrap it up by 8pm and i get over to Telstra Dome to watch Melbourne Victory play in the A-League Soccer, but we can only dream. I like Kevin Pieterson to be Englands highest run scorer in their innings at $4.50 as he has been very good all season in the tests. My other bet will be for England to win the toss at $1.92, a win here will mean double the amount of beers Pick Kevein Pieterson Englands Highest Scorer at $4.50 - (2/10) Pick England to Win the Toss at $1.92 - (5/10) :clap:clap Perfect tipping there mate. I just hope Pietersen is going to be ok, otherwise it's going to make for a boring series and a big blow to my England runscorer bet :wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Kevin Pietersen out of the series with a fractured rib. Hussey never made it to the crease and my Head to Head bet is voided. So after KP making 82, despite having him for most runs in series for England, and most runs H2H vs Hussey (match), it turns out to be a horrible night which was compounded by a couple of very poor choices by me :wall:wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Still a few winner out there from all of us Crouch. Decent start to the series for us, heres to more winners. Losing KP is a huge huge loss. Without him and Trescothick England look very weak in the batting department. I'd love to of seen how Malachy Loye would've got on at this level of cricket. One guy who takes the fight to the opposition from ball one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Not knowing too much about English cricket, could you please explain why Nixon played tonight? Doesn't seem to be too much intelligence behind debuting a 36yo. His batting doesn't seem to above Reads and his keeping was a bit average I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmphill Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Not knowing too much about English cricket' date=' could you please explain why Nixon played tonight? Doesn't seem to be too much intelligence behind debuting a 36yo. His batting doesn't seem to above Reads and his keeping was a bit average I thought.[/quote'] God knows why they picked a 36 year old to make his ODI debut. Very puzzling. There's a young WK at Worcestershire called Steven Davies. 20 year old, made a 1000 runs plus in the county championship scoring 3 centuries in the process. He looks the best prospect and hopefully will get blooded soon. Geraint Jones is finished and rightly so. Chris Read flatters to decieve when wearing the England kit which is a shame because in first class cricket hes a class act with the bat. Theres no doubting his keeping, its top notch but with such a poor tail in the side England need their WK to make good runs regularly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Cheers Dave. I should know better now than to try and make sense of English team selections. Hopefully a more even game on Tuesday, though with Pietersen's absence I fear that New Zealand might walk over England as well. Well done to Kev too, who got a couple of player performance bets home. EDIT: Just noticed there is a game on this Sunday between Aus and NZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 12, 2007 Author Share Posted January 12, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Not knowing too much about English cricket' date=' could you please explain why Nixon played tonight? Doesn't seem to be too much intelligence behind debuting a 36yo. His batting doesn't seem to above Reads and his keeping was a bit average I thought.[/quote'] He and Michael Vaughan have been mates for a while mate and Vaughan regards him as the best 1 day keeper in the country. I wouldn't necessarily disagree with him either if I'm honest. Steven Davies will be mustard but he's 2 years away from this level. We only have 2 months til the World Cup so Nixon is getting his chance. As a batsman he's very aggressive and he's a sound keeper, he just may not be used to the conditions out there but he's normally top notch with the gloves and is fearless too so he'll be standing up to the stumps to Lewis and Anderson when needed. Slight loss for me on the game but from a selfish point of view KP missing the rest of the series is perfect for Vaughan. Will tot up the exact figures when I return from Birmingham this evening :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 12, 2007 Share Posted January 12, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International P&L Summary/Impact from last night: Match 3pts Ponting 39pts & over WIN +2.5pts 3pts Collingwood 36pts & over WIN +2.7pts 3pts Gilchrist score 0-30 LOST -3pts 3pts Pietersen outscores Hussey VOID 2pts Most Dismissed by Runout (England) LOST -2pts 1pt Symonds MOTM LOST -1pt Series 10pts Pietersen Most Runs (England) LOST -10pts Total P&L: -10.8pts Post analysis +Gilchrist score bet was a poor one. I didn't fully consider that he had picked up in form or that England's attack was brittle. +Runout bet was more a gamble based on simple logic rather than a bet that was likely to win through careful analysis. Never again +I knew there was a chance Hussey would come in late, and I also knew there was a chance he wouldn't even get an innings (he reaches the crease in 75% of games). As such I should have taken his performance score under. A decent analysis that I executed poorly. +Really liked the Collingwood bet. Perhaps I should consider a bigger stake next time, rather than my current fixed stake of 3pts for each player performance bet. I also fancied the Bracken bet too, and given he is a threat to Bond I should have taken it, if nothing other than for a bit of a hedge. For the record, and to illustrate how wreckless I can be, Bond most series wickets bet is 30pts and is arguably my marquee bet of the summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International 3.7pt loss for me on the match. 2.3pt profit for the series so far :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Tomorrow's game is a day game (not day nighter) in Bellerive, Tasmania. This is traditionally a seamer's wicket. 4pts NZ +4.5 Wickets/+55.5 runs @ 1.83 365 This is a big spread to cover. NZ can be hammered as seen in the Sri Lankan game, but generally speaking I think they will challenge Australia. I don't think they will win, but with the challenge of England behind Australia, perhaps they will ease off a bit as the intensity drops a bit. It looks like Hilfenhaus will make his debut, so one of the better bowlers will be absent. 7pts Nathan Bracken 40pts & Over @ 1.80 365 Just two wickets are needed for this bet to win. Bracken has taken 2 or more wickets in 11 of his past 13 games. The conditions I think will give him some assistance. Probably the best bet of the game. 6pts Shane Bond 40pts & Over @ 1.83 365 I've probably talked enough about Bond in this thread already, so I wont go into detail, except to say I will do this bet in addition to my existing bets as I feel he will do well, but most series wickets is uncertain, so I will look to cash in on my analysis of Bond in most matches. This way, if he has a strong series without taking most wickets, I will still salvage something. 2pts Aus Hi-Bat Any Other Batsman @ 4.8 Betfair Betfair have Hayden, Gilchrist, Ponting, Clarke and Symonds listed. The only other option is Any Other. This is perfect as I fancied Michael Hussey to get top bat. With the possibility of early wickets though, it could well be the lower order who do the bulk of the run scoring, and so taking the any other option seemed a safer pick, though still at good odds, particularly seeing as it could include Hogg or White. NZ Hi-bat 1pt Shane Bond @ 151 Centrebet Australia's attack is still quite lethal, and with the assistance of the Tasmanian conditions it's possible NZ will lose early wickets. Bond has actually top scored against Australia in an ODI before (http://aus.cricinfo.com/db/ARCHIVE/2002-03/OD_TOURNEYS/ICCCT/SCORECARDS/POOL1/AUS_NZ_ICCCT_ODI4_15SEP2002.html) Not likely, but worth the punt. 1pt Daniel Vettori @ 13 365 Similar reasons to Bond with the conditions and possible collapse etc. Against Australia Vettori actually averages more with the bat, and in his past 8-10 games against us he has hit a 79 and 83. 1pt Shane Bond MOTM @ 12 365 What can I say. More Bond action here for me than the complete 007 DVD pack. If I were a porn site, I'd be 100% Bondage :loon Horrible puns aside, Bond has 2 5 wicket hauls and a 4 wicket haul in his matches against Aus (7 matches) and will be suited to the conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International I somehow expected Bopara to get the call. Loye would have had a shout but I'd have preferred to have seen James Benning get the call up. The difference between the 2 sides with the bat was aggression at the top and he's defnitely got that. Bopara's 3D capabilities gets him the nod though I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Interesting game in store tonight. 10pts NZ +4.5wickets/55.5runs to beat Australia 5/6 Bet365 These 2 sides last played in the Champions Trophy in India last November. Australia ran out winners by the tune of 34 runs which but for a late innings fightback from New Zealand could have been so much more. New Zealand played poorly in that game with the bat though so I expect a different game here in conditions both sides would prefer. Australia since then have wiped the floor with England and will now want to make a stand against the Kiwi's. Looking back through the record books at this ground and early wickets are part and parcel of the game with late cameos making scores respectable. That could bring Cameron White into the game but spinners don't have the worst record here, Brad Hogg took 3 against England 4 years ago and Malinga Bandara took 4 against SA last year here. That could mean Brad Hogg could replace White in one of few expected changes to the Aussie side. New Zealand have kept their cards close to the chest. In the recent series against Sri Lanka nobody knew if they were coming or going! Fleming, Astle and McCullum are all expected to play here so it will be interesting to see how they line their batting up, particularly with Taylor and Fulton to house too. These 2 often produce close games and the Kiwi's raise their game against the Aussies, none more so than Shane Bond who has a terrific record against them. I expect this to be fairly close and think NZ will stay within the handicap. 10pts S.Bond's Performance Pts 38&Over 5/6 Boylesports Points are scored as follows: 1pt per run, 10pts per catch & 20pts per wicket. Shane Bond loves playing these Aussies. And more so against Ricky Ponting. He often takes wickets by the barrel load in these games and 2 more here sees us safe. That's definitely a possibility but if he's not fortunate enough to cover the total with the ball he's more than capable of adding a few runs with the bat. Any catches will be a bonus but I think he'll cover this either way. 10pts Over 5.5 6's 5/6 Boylesports The Bellerive's a fairly big ground but these sides always have capabilities of hitting 6's. If the Aussies get going they have the firepower to cover this alone. If they don't then in Astle, McCullum, Fleming and even bond NZ have big hitters of their own. Both sides are struggling with the 5th bowler spot and a few 6's could come via both 5th bowlers. I'm happy we'll see enough 6's to cover here. 5pts ew M.Clarke Top Aussie Bat 6/1 Boylesports (1/4 1,2,3) With early wickets being frequent at Hobart and Ponting having a poor record against Shane Bond it's well worth looking beyond the top 3 in the Aussie top batsman. 2 years ago Michael Clarke made 97 against Pakistan here so he has good memories to fall back on today. With others around him in the lineup being "hitters" he can be the glue to hold it all together and top score while those around get in and out. 1pt B.Hogg Man of the Match 25/1 Bet365 Bit of a hunch here. Both sides have seamers who can keep it tight so the spinners may be attacked and can then pick up some cheap wickets. Hogg's bowled well here before and if he can dislodge Cameron White from the lineup he could do so again. As well as offering lots with the ball, if the Aussie top order goes tits up he can hold his own with the bat as he's shown in the past. We get our stakes refunded if he doesn't start so I'll play small stakes on my hunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman79 Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International I am going to go against the odds & back NZ to win this one against Australia as I feel they are due for a big match & usually perform well against Australia . They beat them on 5TH of December 2004 when they were in Australia last & I find them good value at $4.20 with centrebet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Not quite sure this is the place for it, but seeing as it is related I will ask here. Kev, have you ever heard of or used www.cricketbet.com.au? I just saw it mentioned on the Betfair forums. They have some interesting markets - the 55 runs gap in particular looks interesting. Having never heard of them though, I am wondering if they were legit or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Not quite sure this is the place for it' date=' but seeing as it is related I will ask here. Kev, have you ever heard of or used www.cricketbet.com.au? I just saw it mentioned on the Betfair forums. They have some interesting markets - the 55 runs gap in particular looks interesting. Having never heard of them though, I am wondering if they were legit or not. I haven't come across them mate, I'm afraid. I tend to stick with the mainstream bookies over here with cricket betting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Cheers mate. I thought a similar thing. Their frontpage looked a little amateurish too. Good luck today. Hopefully Australia will bat first - think we'll be a better chance of beating the handicap if the Kiwis bat second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Cheers mate. I thought a similar thing. Their frontpage looked a little amateurish too. Good luck today. Hopefully Australia will bat first - think we'll be a better chance of beating the handicap if the Kiwis bat second. Cheers mate, yep I agree. I think NZ can take 6 wickets, especially here but staying within 55 runs looks the easier option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Australia win the toss and elect to bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International :cow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Just the one Australian team change. Local Ben Hilfenhaus replaces Glenn McGrath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International No Hogg or McGrath for Australia :sad . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crouch Potato Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Australia make 289 runs in the first innings. Symonds top scores with 69 and Cameron White makes a cameo for a quickfire 45. Australia made around 100 off the last 10 overs, aided by the help of some wayward bowling from Bond in the 48th over. He bounces back though to claim a hat-trick in the last over to finish with 4 wickets. Five sixes were hit so Kev needs just 1 more six for that bet to get home. Bond getting 4 wickets means the Bond bet is home, whilst Symonds top scoring ruins both our choices for Aus Hi Bat. Will be interesting now to see how well NZ can go with the bat. They'll need to make 244 to meet the handicap, and 290 to get Iceman's best home. Would love to see them get over the line as Bond is now a great chance for Man of the Match :hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iceman79 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International it is a batting wicket & I hope from a spectators point of view it goes down too the wire that & the fact I have $$$ on NZ at $4.?? to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Frustrating game for me that one. The 6's and Bond bets came in and when Taylor was going along nicely the handicap looked an absolute cert then 7 went for 23 and that was that. Another good night for the outrights though, Gilchrist takes the lead for Australia in the top series bat market and Taylor's stuck himself in the mix overall. Very unlucky with the Bond MOM Crouch mate, Symonds' performance was ok but usually a hat-trick is rewarded with the MOM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouch Potato Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International Frustrating game for me that one. The 6's and Bond bets came in and when Taylor was going along nicely the handicap looked an absolute cert then 7 went for 23 and that was that. Another good night for the outrights though, Gilchrist takes the lead for Australia in the top series bat market and Taylor's stuck himself in the mix overall. Very unlucky with the Bond MOM Crouch mate, Symonds' performance was ok but usually a hat-trick is rewarded with the MOM. It's not too bad, except that I took Symonds for MOTM last game, and Australia most effected runouts last game, and both happened to come in this time. :sad Bond +5pts Handicap -4pts Bracken -7pts NZ Hi Bat -2pts Aus Hi Bat -2pts MOTM - 2pts Total: -12pts :eek That's on top of the -10.8pts from the opening game. Just how I am going so bad I don't know, didn't seem that shocking when I placed the bets :cry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevshat Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 Re: Cricket: Commonwealth Bank ODI Series & Twenty20 International It's not too bad, except that I took Symonds for MOTM last game, and Australia most effected runouts last game, and both happened to come in this time. :sad Bond +5pts Handicap -4pts Bracken -7pts NZ Hi Bat -2pts Aus Hi Bat -2pts MOTM - 2pts Total: -12pts :eek That's on top of the -10.8pts from the opening game. Just how I am going so bad I don't know, didn't seem that shocking when I placed the bets :cry You was just a bit unlucky in this match mate. The handicap looked an absolute cert when Taylor and Fulton were in then came the collapse and Bracken bowled well but didn't get the 2nd break. You'll hit back mate, I'm sure :ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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