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Racing Chat - Wednesday August 17th


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*Weather warning*
There is the potential for York racecourse to get plenty of rain over the next 24 hours with a forecast that is very localised. My synopsis has been done on good ground so keep an eye on the forecast as obviously were the ground to turn soft it would change my thoughts.
 
York 1.50
York’s four day Ebor Festival kicks off with a fiendishly difficult 5F heritage handicap featuring a maximum field of twenty two. Course specialist’s Dakota Gold (five wins from ten starts here) and Copper Knight (5 from 16) both have claims especially the former who won this back in 2019 and arrives in decent recent form finishing runner up at Ripon on good to soft ground. Michael Dods’s eight year old has to be part of the staking plan. Bottom weight Dusky Lord sports first time blinkers following a good run at Goodwood last time and is another with a a chance along with Tracy Waggott’s Ghantanfar who’s recent 3rd here over 6F behind useful yardstick Gale Force Maya gives him a decent chance. Waggott won the Great St Wilfrid at Ripon on Saturday with her Intrinsic Bond so has her small team in good shape and he’s the other runner I want on my side in a wide open sprint handicap where stakes should be kept small.
 
DAKOTA GOLD 1 point each way @ 8/1 bet365 1/5th 123456
GHANTAFAR 1 point each way @ 14/1 Paddy Power 1/5th 123456
 
York 2.25
Nine two year olds go to post for the group 3 7F Acomb Stakes. Charlie Appleby saddles the likely favourite in Local Dynasty who impressed on his debut in a Newmarket maiden when scooting clear of his field winning by 3 1/2L. None of the defeated horses have run since so it’s hard to know what he’s beaten unlike Andrew Balding’s Chaldean who improved for his promising debut run to win a novice stakes contest at Newbury that has worked out so well with the runner up, third and fourth all winning since. Arguably the form horse is the Jane Chapple-Hyam trained Mill Stream who followed up his Doncaster maiden debut win by going down by half a length to Charlie Appleby’s Noble Style at Newmarket 19 days ago. He should run well especially now stepping up in trip. At the current prices though I want to be with Chaldean who will be ridden today by Ryan Moore for the Juddmonte operation and looks cracking each way value. None of the nine runners have run on anything away from fast ground so we’re the ground to change it would make it a no play race.
 
CHALDEAN 1 points each way @ 7/1 BetVictor 1/5th 123
 
York 3.00
Only six three year old colts have declared for the group two 1m 4F Great Voltigeur Stakes but it’s an intriguing contest none the less with Charlie Appleby saddling a brace of smart sorts in Secret State who’s stepping out of handicaps having won decent races at Royal Ascot and Goodwood, the pick of William Buick and James Doyle’s mount Walk Of Stars who by all accounts has been burning up the gallops at Moultons Paddocks alongside the year older Yibir who actually won this contest last year. Aiden O’Brien has settled with Aikhal of his four runners at the five day stage. He was very impressive last time out and is stepping up to 12F for the first time today. James Ferguson’s stable star Deauville Legend is another with decent claims who was runner up in the Gordon Stakes to the useful New London giving him 3lb. If there was a downpour and the ground turned bad then that would be in the favour of James Ferguson’s other runner here El Bodegon. A tough call but I’m just coming down on the side of Secret State who’s done very little wrong this season and has also won on soft ground at Chester when winning his maiden so won’t mind if the ground did change.
 
SECRET STATE 2 points win @ 2/1 William Hill
 
York 3.35
A small but select field of seven go to post for the group one 1m 2F 56 yard Juddmonte International Stakes which features the unbeaten superstar Baaeed who has won all nine of his starts all at a mile and steps up in trip today. He’s hard to oppose although he does have to prove that he stays this new trip. He’s won on good to firm and good to soft so unless the ground changed dramatically will handle the under foot conditions although obviously if the rain did get in then that would make it more of a test of stamina. I’m happy to watch at the likely odds although I am tempted in having a small bet on Mishriff who bolted up in this contest last year winning by 6L from the re-opposing Alenquer. An unlucky loser of the Eclipse at Sandown this season when not getting the splits at the right time he may have lost his race in the King George when slowly away at the gates. Official ratings only have him 4lb behind Baaeed and he’s worth a small interest. The only three year old in the field is the Charlie Appleby trained Native Trial, runner up in the 2000 guineas prior to winning the Irish version. He has a bit to find with Mishriff on Eclipse form although not a lot. An intriguing contest which Baaeed could run away with it but I can’t resist a small bet on John and Thady Gosden’s Mishriff.
 
MISHRIFF 1 point win @ 4/1 bet365
 
York 4.10
Fifteen go to post here for this two mile class 2 Heritage handicap which has quite an open look about it. Current favourite is recent Goodwood Festival winner Master Miliner who is up 5lb for that victory. He’s two from three at this track and should be competitive for dual purpose trainer Emma Lavelle. It is that Goodwood race though that I feel today’s winner may well come from with Hugo Palmer’s Zoffee the one I like. He may well of not stayed that day with the 2m 4F trip drawing out his stamina. In fact at the two mile stage nothing was going better than Zoffee and he is now 5lb better off with Master Miliner. He has form over hurdles with give in the ground so shouldn’t be too inconvenienced were the ground to change and he looks excellent value with Ben Curtis doing the steering. The Charlie and Mark Johnstone trained Soapy Stevens comes here in good form and is another with a good chance but it’s all about Zoffee for me.
 
ZOFFEE 2 points each way @ 17/2 William Hill 1/5th 12345
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150 york 

Atalis Bay    9.0 11.5 

Good eye  8.8  20.0 

King of stars  8.8 50.0 

Wide open race and might hinge on weather but some decent prices .. and I've underrated king of stars as he was hampered last time so he looks extremely good value to me and I like to look for clues from fate and I just so happen to need 500 to pay my holiday off ?? so he will charge up the rail and spring a huge shocker ???

3 x 10pt wins ? 

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2 minutes ago, black rabbit said:

RAIN DANCE TED  [ nothing else for it ] / dont be put off

To be fair it has not raced on anything better than good so any thing else is unknown  may well be ok  and trainer has  a top jock booked but if  there was rain and it got into the ground i would have a decent tickle on it.

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1.50 York  Nice race to start the  meeting loads of chance as 8/1 the field would suggest.

Would not put anyone of Dakota Gold tough reliable genuine  horse  8/1 -17/2 is fair enough  but i prefer to go with bigger priced horses e/w in this with 6 places & bog.

My first one  is having his first run in a handicap  we have not  seen the best of this 3yo this year  and has had his balls cut off since last seen   so hopefully  his mind will be on the job ahead i'm on e/w at 25's (now 20) was as big as 33's  GIS A SUB i think the shrewd Kevin Ryan trained runner will give a better show today. May be a horse worth following.

If my rain dance works the local trained SUNDAY SOVEREIGN 16/1 will go very close imo. Trainer loves getting winners here and Buick booked enough said.

Best  Of Luck All Fellow Punters

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18 hours ago, richard-westwood said:

150 york 

Atalis Bay    9.0 11.5 

Good eye  8.8  20.0 

King of stars  8.8 50.0 

Wide open race and might hinge on weather but some decent prices .. and I've underrated king of stars as he was hampered last time so he looks extremely good value to me and I like to look for clues from fate and I just so happen to need 500 to pay my holiday off ?? so he will charge up the rail and spring a huge shocker ???

3 x 10pt wins ? 

Hi Richard what Ur system sayin on 225 300 and 410 

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10 minutes ago, richard-westwood said:

I've onky managed to rate the 225 so far cos been busy at work ....it was indestructible top ...e.w ....and mill stream (if he stays ...) rest were a bit behind 

I have also top rated indestructable with my speed figures. oviedo 2nd

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5 hours ago, MCLARKE said:

As a quick short cut, draws 1 to 7 have the best record in handicaps at York.

My research over the last few days say it flips as the ground gets softer. Might be interesting to note as the week goes on if the ground gets softer by the day.

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Only a few smallish bets with moneybCk and free bet if win offers on most.

All York

1350 zarzyni

1425 childean & local dynasty mbo

Fav double of secret state and baaeed in next 2 races

1610 soapy Stevens & master millnier fbiw

1645 Cuban breeze

1720 rogue spirit

 

Good luck all

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21 hours ago, richard-westwood said:

150 york 

Atalis Bay    9.0 11.5 

Good eye  8.8  20.0 

King of stars  8.8 50.0 

Wide open race and might hinge on weather but some decent prices .. and I've underrated king of stars as he was hampered last time so he looks extremely good value to me and I like to look for clues from fate and I just so happen to need 500 to pay my holiday off ?? so he will charge up the rail and spring a huge shocker ???

3 x 10pt wins ? 

You must be the bravest punter I have ever known.  I will back your selections each way for 6 places, your previous strategy, with a small ew bet on Makana. Total spend = 2 points.  I do hope that King Of stars wins for you or at the very least one of the others

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Badeed has amazing speed figures (all of them) often produced without looking like it, this horse really is something special although i wont be backing it at this price its not really taking anything overly special on. 4/7 is excellent value by any measures, too much is made about it will it wont it get 10f not sure what the winning distance odds are but 6-8l is probable in my book.

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1 hour ago, The Equaliser said:

You must be the bravest punter I have ever known.  I will back your selections each way for 6 places, your previous strategy, with a small ew bet on Makana. Total spend = 2 points.  I do hope that King Of stars wins for you or at the very least one of the others

Omg ...2nd ..and 3rd.I had a place bet on only that horse too just to win my money back so fight another day ....I can't believe 2nd .??...what a rating 

And he was beaten in a photo ...that's sickening urrgh 

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