Racing Chat - Saturday 6th August

[The Brigadier]

A bumper eleven races being covered on Saturday afternoon by ITV coming from Ascot, Haydock and Newmarket and here's my thoughts on all eleven -

 

Ascot 1.35

ITV’s Shergar Cup coverage starts with the second on the card at Ascot - the 7F classified stakes where on official ratings there’s only 4lb between the field. Orbaan was impressive in winning the Golden Mile at Goodwood last week but was well drawn and this will be a totally different test with just eight runner under a 7lb penalty. At the likely odds I’ll take him on. One horse who I feel is overpriced is Katie Scott’s Gweedore. The five year old gelding actually beat Orbaan at Ayr only a month ago by a cosy 2 1/4L receiving 4lb and actually receives 5lb from David O’Meara’s charge today. He’s currently five times the price and hopefully if all eight stand their ground will be worth backing each way. Crack Canadian jockey Emma-Jayne Wilson who’s won the Golden Saddle here before takes the ride which is no negative at all.

 

GWEEDORE 1 point each way @ 14/1 bet365 1/5th 123

 

Ascot 2.10

The Shergar Cup Dash is up next, a 5F handicap. A case can be made for plenty with my main fancy being Robert Cowell’s Arecibo who will be ridden today by Danny Tudhope who has actually ridden the seven year old gelding fourteen times in his career. The last time he was seen in a handicap was eleven runs ago back in May 2021 when winning at Newmarket off of a mark of 99, 4lb lower than today’s mark. He’s kept very good company since running in group races this season. He’s still got plenty of zip and looks the one to beat. Mick Appleby’s King Of Stars arrives in good form having run well here last month and has claims along with the only three year old in the field Manaccan who may have more improvement to come. He looks the danger to Arecibo.

 

ARECIBO 2 points win @ 4/1 William Hill

 

Haydock 2.25

A small field of only seven assemble for this class 2 one mile handicap. Saeed Bin Suroor’s Electrical Storm is the favourite and holds a good chance on the back of a York victory and 3rd in a decent Sandown handicap where the horse just behind him Protaganist has won since. Off of the same mark he should go close. Top weight Young Fire is 3 from 6 at the track and is another with claims whilst the Charlie and Mark Johnstone trained Dutch Decoy may be the best current value having won at Newmarket on the July course last month prior to a credible 2L 4th in a decent Goodwood handicap last week over a furlong further. Back to a mile should suit and he’s my selection. Skybet, William Hill and Betfred are paying three places in this even runner contest and that looks the way to go.

 

DUTCH DECOY 1 point each way @ 13/2 William Hill 1/5th 123

 

Ascot 2.45

The Shergar Cup Stayers is a handicap run over two miles and looks destined to go to Goodwood runner up Super Superjack trained by Milton Harris. He was unlucky not to have won that day as he didn’t get the breaks when he needed them and the drop back half a mile today will hopefully suit him. Nicola Currie who was in top form with a treble a Carlisle earlier in the week has been drawn to ride him. Ralph Beckett’s top weight Rock Eagle went down by half a length to Reshoun at Newbury last month and looks the biggest danger to the selection.

 

SUPER SUPERJACK 2 points win @ 9/4 William Hill

 

Haydock 3.00

William Haggas’s Grocer Jack was highly impressive on his British/stable debut and will be hard to beat in this group 3 Rose Of Lancaster Stakes run over 1m 2F 100yds for three year olds and upwards. He’s a skinny enough price mind for one that who’s win can be crabbed as I’m not sure what he beat that day. I can remember saying at the time what a weak listed contest it was. At the likely prices I’m against him. Saeed Bin Suroor’s Passion And Glory is interesting having won a listed contest at Sandown last time whilst the most interesting form line may well turn out to be the first and third from the John Smiths Cup at York a month ago. Owen Burrows’ Anmaat won that on his seasonal re-appearance with Intellogent 3/4L back in third at the line having come from some way back. On 2lb better terms I’ll take Jane Chapple-Hyam’s Intellogent to turn the tables especially as he is proven with cut in the ground unlike Anmaat.

 

INTELLOGENT 1 point each way @ 11/2 bet365 1/5th 123

 

Ascot 3.20

The Shergar Cup Challenge is a handicap run over a mile and a half for four year olds and upwards. Newmarket trainer William Haggas has some interesting entries today none more so than his lightly raced four year old gelded son of Pivotal, Pride Of Priory. He’s chasing a hat trick of victories having won all weather handicaps at around this trip at Kempton and Newcastle this summer. He’s risen 10lb for those two success’s but may still be ahead of his mark especially now getting back on turf which he won twice on last Autumn. Kieran Shoemark has been drawn to ride and that’s certainly not a negative. The Whipmaster comes here in good shape having won four of his last five starts but I would be very worried of the form of his trainer Gary Moore who has gone 15 days and 19 runners since his last winner. Southern Voyage is another interesting runner from the Archie Watson stable who was well backed last time when apparently breaking a blood vessel.

 

PRIDE OF PRIORY 2 points win @ 7/2 Paddy Power

 

Newmarket 3.40

Nine two year old fillies go to post for the group 3 Sweet Solera Stakes run over 7F of the July course. Likely favourite is the Charlie and Mark Johnstone trained Lakota Sioux who was last seen seven weeks ago when third in the Chesham Stakes at Royal Ascot. That form hasn’t worked out that well and I think he’s worth taking on today. Richard Spencer’s Ivory Madonna failed to win his maiden last time and is another I can be against. I’m keen on the once raced Karl Burke trained Novakai, a daughter of Lope De Vega who bolted up on her debut at Doncaster at 12/1 and could be useful and the similarly once raced Ismail Mohammed trained Alseyoob who won a Newmarket maiden on her debut in a race where the third won at the weekend. I’ll dutch the pair.

 

ALSEYOOB 1 point win @ 6/1 bet365

NOVAKAI point win @ 4/1 bet365

 

Ascot 3.55

The Shergar Cup Mile is a handicap that is open to four year olds and upwards and features, to my eyes, the best bet on the card. William Haggas trains the lightly raced four year old chestnut son of Exceed And Excel Montassib who’s won three of his five career starts and hasn’t been been beaten far in two big field handicaps on his last two starts. Off of the same handicap mark and with Danny Tudhope in the plate he looks a worthy favourite and can take this. Isla Kai has been a bit disappointing so far this season but his time is near and he should be thereabouts whilst David O’Meara’s ex Irish import Bopedro who ran well on his English debut when fourth of ten here can also be thereabouts but for me this is all about Montassib who’s stepping up to a mile today for the first time.

 

MONTASSIB 3 points win @ 5/2 bet365

 

Curragh 4.15

A small but select field of six go to post for this years renewal of the group one Phoenix Stakes run over 6F. Aidan O’Brien saddles a brace of decent two year olds in Blackbeard and Little Big Bear. Ryan Moore appears to have chosen the latter and following a demolition job in a group 3 here last time should be thereabouts but may not be good enough to beat the English raider Bradsell who could be very good. A visually impressive winner at York on his debut in May he followed up a month later when a cosy winner of the Coventry Stakes at Royal Ascot from subsequent group winners Persian Force, Royal Scotsman and Blackbeard. Trainer Archie Watson was stating earlier in the week that he hasn’t got anything fast enough at home to lead him on the gallops including group one winner Glen Shiel. Hollie Doyle’s over to ride and although this is a step up from Ascot he could be very good and worth a good bet.

 

BRADSELL 3 points win @ 7/4 bet365

 

Ascot 4.30

1m 4f is the distance of the Shergar Cup Classic a handicap for three year olds only. William Haggas is maybe in for a good day and his Hamaki is my fancy here. He’s been raised 5lb for his victory at Haydock last time out on soft ground but has done enough on faster ground previously to suggest that he handles any types of ground. Jamie Spencer rides and although not my favourite jockey can certainly get the job done when needed. Andrew Balding’s Berkshire Breeze is still maiden after six starts but has been knocking on the door on his last two starts and his time is near. The Gosden’s Franz Strauss got turned over in a three runner handicap last time and may have little in hand of his mark.

 

HAMAKI 2 points each way @ 5/1 Paddy Power 1/5th 1234

 

Ascot 5.05

The Shergar Cup concludes with the Sprint, a handicap run over 6F for three year olds only. That man William Haggas has another fancied runner here in the shape of the Jose-Luis Martinez ridden Razeyna, a winner at Carlisle last time which is already starting to work out. He should run well but I want to with the Richard Fahey trained Admiral D who’s run well in defeat in two of the best three year old sprint handicaps of the season so far. Runner up to Lethal Levi (winner since) at Newmarket last time he will ridden by the capable Joanna Mason and should be bang there at the finish. Reserve Conflict is making his handicap debut for Andrew Balding and would be a player if getting a run.

 

ADMIRAL D 2 points win @ 7/2 Coral

 

On a footnote Unibet are currently promoting a great offer of their 15 to Go Offer on all of the ITV races (in Sunday as well) where if you place a bet with them in the 15 minutes before the scheduled start time and back the winner they will match your stake with a free bet up to £20. That’s a great offer I think and if you want to get involved click on this link 

 

Unibet 15 to Go Offer

[alexcaruso808]

Course / Time	Selection	Odds / Bet Type	Result
Ascot
13:00	Amanzoe	2.50 win
13:35	Stone Soldier	12.50 EW (4 places)
14:10	Hurricane Ivor	12.00 EW (4 places
14:45	Super Superjack	3.25 win
15:20	Pride of Priory	4.50 win
15:55	Redarna	14.00 EW (5 places)
16:30	Hamaki	4.50 win
17:05	Sterling Knight	12.00 EW (4 places)

 

Good luck!

Edited August 6, 2022 by alexcaruso808
I had to put everything into a spreadsheet format, the layout was driving my OCD nuts!

[kensland]

Ascot. 

Single. 

2.45. Rock Eagle.      5/1..... unpl 

Double. 

1.20. Newm. Jalapa...... 7/2... unpl 

5.35. Lingf. Milyjama.............. 6/1

singles & double. 

Good luck all. 

Edited August 6, 2022 by kensland

[yossa6133]

Persian Force 4:15 Curragh (5/1 SBK). Cracking race. Bradsell the right fav after 2 great wins, but at the prices I've got to go for Hannon's horse. I thought Hollie Doyle kicked at just the right moment at Ascot and put the race to bed for Bradsell. I can see the super straight forward Persian Force at least closing that gap and the price looks too big.

 

fav had on off day but winner was in another league, highly impressive!

Edited August 6, 2022 by yossa6133

[Zilzalian]

3 hours ago, yossa6133 said:

Persian Force 4:15 Curragh (5/1 SBK). Cracking race. Bradsell the right fav after 2 great wins, but at the prices I've got to go for Hannon's horse. I thought Hollie Doyle kicked at just the right moment at Ascot and put the race to bed for Bradsell. I can see the super straight forward Persian Force at least closing that gap and the price looks too big.

my speed figures have the first 4 in the betting pretty much level so your value angle is valid although i might sit this race out.

[kroni]

205 Curragh - On The Money @ 14/1 e-w bet365

Eye catching run at Galway on debut, was green, didn't handle the downhill section but did stay on at the uphill finish. Likely to improve now on 2nd run, trainer has had couple of recent 2yo winners. It's and open race with plenty of uknowns/improvers but at the price is worth an e-w bet

[Villa Chris]

Ascot 1.00 

Not much between Amazoe and Adjourn but Adjourn comes out very slightly on top. 
 

2.50 points on Adjourn 3/1 

 

Ive decided to half my usual stakes as I don’t tend to bet much on the flats these days, but jump racing, or decent quality jump racing is a bit sparse this time of year . Usual stake is 5 points but will be 2.50 on flats . 

Edited August 6, 2022 by Villa Chris

[kensland]

Newmarket. 

Single. 

3.40. Dandy Alys.        16/1.      win..... 2nd 

Good luck all. 

Edited August 6, 2022 by kensland

[maxironchin]

4.15 Curragh

Little Big Bear 3pt Win.

Impressive win LTO  Both Bradsell and Persian Force are carrying 2lbs more than their last races. Shartash won his last race but not by much and was on the bridle for at least half the time.

[black rabbit]

Themaxwecan   2 45 A     1/5 pt win    18/1       { the peerless spencer delivers } 

Gustavus weston   3 15 Cur   1/5  pt win  16/1

Typhoon ten   4 20 NM   1/5 pt win     22/1 

Amirat alward    5 25 Cur   1/5 pt win   30/1

Foxes tails    3 00 H     1/5 pt win    23/1

 

 

 

P/L    + 145.25  pt

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by black rabbit
selection

[Trotter]

I'm having another go with my simple RPR/RTF system as trailed earlier in the week ...... with quite a lot of success in run of the mill weekday handicaps. It's very simple ...... just add up two figures from the Racing Post race card, the RPR and the trainers RTF. Highest number is top rated, second highest is next best

So thought I'd try it out on the Shergar Cup races today ........ 8 competitive class 2/3 handicaps and classified stakes with mainly 10 runner fields. 

Ascot -

1.00 - Amanzoe 168, Adjourn 163
1.35 - Stone Soldier 162, Gweedore 160
2.10 - Hurricane Ivor  177, Judicial 164
2.45 - Super Superjack 171, Red Verdon 169
3.20 - Celtic Art 202, Daneill Kodiac 195
3.55 - Montaasib 179, Redarna 181 *
4.30 - Hamaki 169, Pub Crawl 155
5.05 - Razeyna 172, Adaay in Asia 168

 

* 3.55 - Coase is top rated at 206 but is a Reserve (the curse of the Shergar Cup and Irish Racing, how can you bet when you don't know if Reserves are going to be running or not ?). I've assumed he's not running.

[Trotter]

Also trying out the RPR/RTF system on today's listed and group races

Newm 3.40 - Mottisfont 166, Ivory Madonna 164, 

Curr 3.15 - New York City 192, Wings of War and Tereza Mendoza joint 2nd on 183
Curr 4.15 - Little Big Bear 192, Bradsell 186

Hayd 3.00 - Intellogent 196, Grocer Jack 195
Hayd 3.35 - Floral Splendour 175, Crenelle 167

[The Equaliser]

12 minutes ago, Trotter said:

I'm having another go with my simple RPR/RTF system as trailed earlier in the week ...... with quite a lot of success in run of the mill weekday handicaps. It's very simple ...... just add up two figures from the Racing Post race card, the RPR and the trainers RTF. Highest number is top rated, second highest is next best

So thought I'd try it out on the Shergar Cup races today ........ 8 competitive class 2/3 handicaps and classified stakes with mainly 10 runner fields. 

Ascot -

1.00 - Amanzoe 168, Adjourn 163
1.35 - Stone Soldier 162, Gweedore 160
2.10 - Hurricane Ivor  177, Judicial 164
2.45 - Super Superjack 171, Red Verdon 169
3.20 - Celtic Art 202, Daneill Kodiac 195
3.55 - Montaasib 179, Redarna 181 *
4.30 - Hamaki 169, Pub Crawl 155
5.05 - Razeyna 172, Adaay in Asia 168

 

* 3.55 - Coase is top rated at 206 but is a Reserve (the curse of the Shergar Cup and Irish Racing, how can you bet when you don't know if Reserves are going to be running or not ?). I've assumed he's not running.

Good luck with this.  You once gave me a very good detailed account of how the RPR ratings are compiled.  I wonder if you are able to shed some light for me on how the trainer RTF figures are arrived at?  I saw one runner that won its only race and was given 100% but I'm not sure how the RP calculate this with lots of runners from the same trainer in the last 14 days.  Sometimes I see trainers with horses running shocking races within the last 14 days (albeit they have been at long prices) and the trainer is given a high percentage rating.  All very confusing to me!

[The Equaliser]

16 hours ago, alexcaruso808 said:

Course / Time	Selection	Odds / Bet Type	Result
Ascot
13:00	Amanzoe	2.50 win
13:35	Stone Soldier	12.50 EW (4 places)
14:10	Hurricane Ivor	12.00 EW (4 places
14:45	Super Superjack	3.25 win
15:20	Pride of Priory	4.50 win
15:55	Redarna	14.00 EW (5 places)
16:30	Hamaki	4.50 win
17:05	Sterling Knight	12.00 EW (4 places)

 

Good luck!

Your selections are set out lovely, well done

[Wildgarden]

28 minutes ago, Trotter said:

I'm having another go with my simple RPR/RTF system as trailed earlier in the week ...... with quite a lot of success in run of the mill weekday handicaps. It's very simple ...... just add up two figures from the Racing Post race card, the RPR and the trainers RTF. Highest number is top rated, second highest is next best

So thought I'd try it out on the Shergar Cup races today ........ 8 competitive class 2/3 handicaps and classified stakes with mainly 10 runner fields. 

Ascot -

1.00 - Amanzoe 168, Adjourn 163
1.35 - Stone Soldier 162, Gweedore 160
2.10 - Hurricane Ivor  177, Judicial 164
2.45 - Super Superjack 171, Red Verdon 169
3.20 - Celtic Art 202, Daneill Kodiac 195
3.55 - Montaasib 179, Redarna 181 *
4.30 - Hamaki 169, Pub Crawl 155
5.05 - Razeyna 172, Adaay in Asia 168

 

* 3.55 - Coase is top rated at 206 but is a Reserve (the curse of the Shergar Cup and Irish Racing, how can you bet when you don't know if Reserves are going to be running or not ?). I've assumed he's not running.

i tried a few tracks as trail and turned out badly as lots of outsiders came up that lost and even favs that where 2nd rated lost. many top rated favs won tbf. needs more work to see long term effects. like does it work better on better quality class races.

Edited August 6, 2022 by Wildgarden

[Trotter]

16 minutes ago, The Equaliser said:

Good luck with this.  You once gave me a very good detailed account of how the RPR ratings are compiled.  I wonder if you are able to shed some light for me on how the trainer RTF figures are arrived at?  I saw one runner that won its only race and was given 100% but I'm not sure how the RP calculate this with lots of runners from the same trainer in the last 14 days.  Sometimes I see trainers with horses running shocking races within the last 14 days (albeit they have been at long prices) and the trainer is given a high percentage rating.  All very confusing to me!

The first thing to note is that it has nothing to do with Winners ....... it's a measure of to what extent a trainers runners are running up to their known form which is measured by RPR

So if a trainer has 6 runners and they're all rated 60 and they all finish 9th or 10th in races but they all still run to a rating of 60 ....... then the trainer gets a 100% RTF because all his runners are running to form ........ ie, they're all expected to run to a level of 60 and they all do even though they're all well beaten ....... they run to their expected level of form

Another example ...... you could have a horse rated 100 who wins a race but only runs to a level of 90 in winning ...... then the trainer wouldn't have a 100% RTF because the horse has run below form even though he's won

So it's a measure of the extent to which a trainers horses are running to form regardless of where they finish in races

Does that make sense  ? 

 

 

 

 

 

[The Equaliser]

30 minutes ago, Trotter said:

The first thing to note is that it has nothing to do with Winners ....... it's a measure of to what extent a trainers runners are running up to their known form which is measured by RPR

So if a trainer has 6 runners and they're all rated 60 and they all finish 9th or 10th in races but they all still run to a rating of 60 ....... then the trainer gets a 100% RTF because all his runners are running to form ........ ie, they're all expected to run to a level of 60 and they all do even though they're all well beaten ....... they run to their expected level of form

Another example ...... you could have a horse rated 100 who wins a race but only runs to a level of 90 in winning ...... then the trainer wouldn't have a 100% RTF because the horse has run below form even though he's won

So it's a measure of the extent to which a trainers horses are running to form regardless of where they finish in races

Does that make sense  ? 

 

 

 

 

 

It does.  Many thanks

[Bang on]

30 minutes ago, Trotter said:

The first thing to note is that it has nothing to do with Winners ....... it's a measure of to what extent a trainers runners are running up to their known form which is measured by RPR

So if a trainer has 6 runners and they're all rated 60 and they all finish 9th or 10th in races but they all still run to a rating of 60 ....... then the trainer gets a 100% RTF because all his runners are running to form ........ ie, they're all expected to run to a level of 60 and they all do even though they're all well beaten ....... they run to their expected level of form

Another example ...... you could have a horse rated 100 who wins a race but only runs to a level of 90 in winning ...... then the trainer wouldn't have a 100% RTF because the horse has run below form even though he's won

So it's a measure of the extent to which a trainers horses are running to form regardless of where they finish in races

Does that make sense  ? 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll just add to that, it says in the Racing Post ...

" RTF is defined as running to within 7lbs of racecard  Racing Post Rating"

For todays trainers we have C.Appleby (77% RTF and 40% winners) and C.Cox ( 62% RTF and just 8% winners). Trainers having winners and RTF are 2 very different things.

[MCLARKE]

BET365 4/1 TV offer selections

HAYD 3.00 Anmaat (5) 4/1

NEWM 3.40 Alseyoob (5) 6/1

ASCO 4.30 Berkshire Breeze (6) 4/1

I have ignored most of the Ascot races because there will be rule 4 deductions due to non runners. Another reason why I don't like this Shergar Cup nonsense.

[Trotter]

5 minutes ago, MCLARKE said:

I have ignored most of the Ascot races because there will be rule 4 deductions due to non runners. Another reason why I don't like this Shergar Cup nonsense.

..... and the whole business of Reserves as mentioned in my earlier post

Don't know how our Irish friends get on with Reserves....... they seem to have them in a lot of races but I can't believe it doesn't put punters off. 

 

[The Equaliser]

I wasn't going to bet today with the gimmicky racing that is going on.  However, I'm a bit like the wasp who promised not to sting the frog whilst he sat on his back crossing a pond.  Although he knew that he would drown if he did so he done it anyway.

1.35 Asc Divine Magic 9/2

2.25 Hd Electrical Storm 2/1

3.40 Nm Novakai 2/1

3.55 Asc Montassib 13/8

6 x 0.5 win dbles, 4 x 0.5 win Trbles and 1 0.5 win 4 fold = 5.5 v poss return of 180.89

Singles:

3.00 Hd Anmaat 1 pt win at 4.21 and Intellogent 0.3 win at 11/1

1.35 Asc Gweedore 0.3 win at 10/1

2.10 asc Arecebo 1 pt win at 8.2

2.25 Hd Dutch Decoy 0.6 win at 8/1

Total stakes 8.70

Good luck to all

RESULTS UPDATE

No disaster since Anmaat won which meant a loss on the day of 3.49 pts.  More a matter of regrets of not backing Themaxwecan and also Adaay In Asia in the 5.05 at Ascot.  All the hype was about Admiral D but my eyes lit up when I saw Adaay In Asia was running.  It was trading around 7/1 when I was looking and I couldn't see why it didn't have a good chance of winning.  It subsequently was backed into 4/1 co-favourite and ran a superb race to win.  I missed Pride Of Priory, going for the so-called safer shorter-priced options in my multiple bet.  I guess I deserved what I got and deserved to be kicked out of the KO cup in the first round. You don't get a better run from these favourites.  I got a better run from Dutch Decoy at 8/1 in the 2.25 at Haydock than I did from Electrical Storm the jolly old 13/8 favourite.  One day I will be brave and put the longer-priced selections into the multiple bet and not be duped by the so-called expert opinion of the media press.

MTD = -43.79 and YTD -245.97

We move on

 

Edited August 6, 2022 by The Equaliser

[MCLARKE]

No quality handicaps today so I'll have a look at the trends for the Rose of Lancaster Stakes (Haydock 3.00)

Not finished in the 1st 5 last time, 0 from 18

Odds 6/1 - 14/1, 5 from 28, AE 2.50

1st last time, 2 from 9, AE 0.88

This leaves FOXES TALES at 20/1

[Villa Chris]

2.10 Ascot 

Got this between Arecibo and Manaccan as my top two 

2.50 points Arecibo at 11/2

[The Scientist]

On a dreadful losing run so I will not tip anything today. Drepressed.I am nit used to losing. Then even worse. I love horses, I love horse racing, i don't rate those boring dwarfs called flat jockeys very highly and an afternoon of watching Jockey Racing at a Ascot is depressing me further....CHEER UP you old cumudgeon, for heaven's sake...ok, ok..Novakai 3.40 newmarket. Im told my horse is running on Aug 15th. I wint tip it and put yhe kibosh on it

[calva decoy]

State of the jumps course at Ascot ?

[MCLARKE]

2 hours ago, MCLARKE said:

BET365 4/1 TV offer selections

HAYD 3.00 Anmaat (5) 4/1

Anmaat wins so a free bet on the 3.20 at Ascot, I'll go with STATE OF BLISS at 8/1

[Zilzalian]

Wondering whats happened to Roger Varian/horses. he seems to have flat lined or even dipped you used to see his face all over itv racing.

[Zilzalian]

3 minutes ago, MCLARKE said:

Anmaat wins so a free bet on the 3.20 at Ascot, I'll go with STATE OF BLISS at 8/1

Timing is everything, got 5/1 on 365

[MCLARKE]

Trends for the Phoenix Stakes (4.15 at Curragh)

Odds 10/3 - 12/1, 5 from 24, AE 1.91

Last ran less than 22 days ago, 1 from 17

Last ran more than 41 days ago, 3 from 25

This leaves PERSIAN FORCE at 4/1

[LeMale]

Let's see the Stewards make a pigs ear of this ruling (1540 Newmarket) Not just the once, but had to stop riding twice!!! And yes i do have money on Dandy Alys. 

And just as i was about to send TWAT Chapman doesn't think there was anything wrong...praised the jockey...unbelievable.