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Racing Chat - Saturday 4th September

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Here are my thoughts on the 8 ITV races for Saturday:-
 
Haydock 1.45
The Group 3 Superior Mile has attracted a disappointing turnout of only five runners and it’s very hard to see past the favourite Lord Glitters here who is officially  the highest rated. David O’Mera’s globetrotting veteran has two of today’s rivals Bell  Rock and My Oberon a length and two and a half lengths respectively behind when runner up to the progressive Real World at York a fortnight ago and is actually better off at the weights with both of those and I find it hard to believe either will turn the tables on the grey. Artistic Rifles and Maydanny are stepping up from handicaps and this really does look Lord Glitters to lose. I’m keen on three shorties today and I also think it’s worth trebling the trio up.
 
LORD GLITTERS 4 points win @ 6/4 Bet365
LORD GLITTERS, STARMAN, HUKUM 2 points win treble
 
Kempton 2.05
Eight two year olds have declared for the Group 3 Sirenia Stakes and it has an open look about it. The best piece of form is arguably brought to the race by Clive Cox’s Wings Of War who was third in the Geoff’s Premier Yearling Sales races at York’s Ebor meeting. He should run well along with Andrew Balding’s Nymphadora who ran a good 5th in the Lowther Stakes last time. I’m happy though to go with the impressive course and distance winner Scot’s Grace who bolted up here back in July and missed a subsequent run at Windsor in August due to the soft ground. Trained by up and coming Newmarket handler Kevin Philippart De Foy the Mehmas filly may represent a touch of each way value (fingers crossed all eight run).
 
SCOTS GRACE 1 point each way @ 5/1 1/5th 123 William Hill
 
 
Haydock 2.20
An interesting 14F handicap for three year olds features the Melrose Handicap winner from York’s Ebor meeting in the unexposed Andrew Balding trained Valley Forge who was pushed out to win by half a length and has been raised 7lb for that success. He’s on the upgrade and looks the one they all have to beat here. Vino Victrix is chasing a hat trick following wins at Sandown and at Kempton and Hughie Morrison’s charge should be thereabouts. All eight runners have some sort of claim but I’ll be sticking with Valley Forge who beat a better field than this last time out.
 
VALLEY FORGE 2 points win @ 2/1 Bet365
 
Kempton 2.40
A disappointing turnout of only five here for the Group 3 September Stakes and a warm favourite in Owen Burrows’ flag bearer Hukum. He will be hard to beat with question marks over his opponents. Second favourite Hamish was trained for the Ebor and was pulled out on the day when the ground dried up. He’s not raced on a synthetic surface before and has to overcome a 442 day absence. Prince Of Arran is surely using this as a stepping stone to another tilt at the Melbourne Cup whilst Fox Tal finds it hard to win nowadays and has acquired the dreaded Timeform squiggle. That just leaves Outbox who Hukum beat by a comfortable 1 1/2L at York in July. Despite a 3lb penalty for his Group 3 victories at York and Newbury this Summer he will be hard to beat on a surface he won on as a two year old.
 
HUKUM 3 points win @ 8/11 BetVictor
 
Haydock 2.55
A lot of the 12 runners for the Old Borough Cup are disappointing sorts who are out of form and I’ll be backing top weight Global Storm who has a touch of class about him. He made no impression when in mid field in the Ebor last time out but had previously been a consistent stayer winning at Newmarket in May and placed in top handicaps at Royal Ascot and Newmarket’s July meeting. His main danger may well be the bottom weight Noble Masquerade who’s receiving 22lb from the selection and comes here on the back of an impressive Windsor victory.
 
GLOBAL STORM 2 points win @ 4/1 William Hill
 
Ascot 3.10
The Lavazza Stakes is a class 2 12F handicap and is contested by some progressive three year olds. Top of the list has to be the Sir Michael Stoute trained Wahraan who followed up comfortable wins at Pontefract and York in July with a slightly unlucky 5th in a decent York handicap where he was beaten 2L by Migration when not getting the clearest of runs close home. He steps up in trip here which should suit and he’s my selection with Ryan Moore taking over from Kieran Shoemark. There are plenty of dangers though amongst whom are William Haggas’s Chalk Stream who’s chasing a hat trick of wins and Gary Moore’s Champagne Piaff who’s up 5lb and two furlongs for his gambled on Windsor victory. He looks Wahraan’s biggest danger to me.
 
WAHRAAN 2 points win @ 3/1 William Hill
 
Haydock 3.30
Eleven classy sprinters go to post for this years renewal of the Betfair Sprint Cup , a Group one contest run over 6F. It’s hard to look beyond favourite Starman with the ground coming right for him. He holds 8 of his 10 rivals on his impressive July Cup victory at Newmarket and in the circumstances ran a blinder last time in the Maurice de Gheest when soft ground and the additional half a furlong was his undoing. Ed Walker will have him spot on for this and it really is his race to lose.
 
STARMAN 4 points win @ 10/11 William Hill
 
Ascot 3.45
An interesting 7F handicap that gives us a couple of nice betting opportunities. Top Secret is the most likely winner to my eyes and has to be part of the staking plan here. He’s a progressive four year old trained by William Muir and Chris Grassick who’s latest second to Neenee’s Choice was franked by that one winning at Salisbury on Thursday. He’s already won over course and distance this season. Last year’s winner Documenting is back on the same mark and following a promising run at Doncaster should be on the premises whilst the other one I want as part of my staking plan is Ascot specialist Ripp Orf who’s track figures read 13125420 with the last run coming before a long absence. He showed very little on his comeback run at Sandown last month but this is his track and the handicapper has dropped him 9lb for his last two starts plus he has the assistance of a decent 7lb claimer in Jonny Peate.
 
TOP SECRET 1 point each way @ 6/1 1/5th odds 1234 Paddy Power
RIP ORFF 1 point each way @ 11/1 1/5th odds 1234 Paddy Power
 
 
 
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Offramp

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17 minutes ago, calva decoy said:

Is anyone else getting unsecure connection with the exclamation mark in a red box via the app using PL today ?

Yes. I am using Chrome on a chromebook and the warning says:

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Your connection is not private

Attackers might be trying to steal your information from www.punterslounge.com (for example, passwords, messages or credit cards). Learn more

NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID

I don't think it is serious and should come back soon.

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fd1972uk

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OK quite a few mixed bets including some free bets. Bit risky as some bets are using same horses, and usually know how that ends. 

1605  Hay Atalis Bay fb

Haydock Double e/w - 1530 Summerghand & 1605 Atalis Bay

Fb Treble - 1330 Kem Neptune Legend, 1515 Kem Thunderclap, 1605 Hay Copper Knight

FF - 1345 Hay Lord Glitters, 1400 Asc Alotaibi, 1440 Kem Hukum, 1530 Hay Starman

Haydock Double - 1455 Global Storm & 1530 Starman

Fb Treble - 1420 Hay Valley Forge, 1440 Kem Hukum, 1530 Hay Starman

 

Good luck all. 

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calva decoy

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2 hours ago, Offramp said:

Yes. I am using Chrome on a chromebook and the warning says:

I don't think it is serious and should come back soon.

 

2 hours ago, fd1972uk said:

Yeah getting that too. 

 

1 hour ago, The Equaliser said:

Yes, I am, but have logged in anyway as I have AVG security on my PC

Cheers guys , not just me then , all is ok now & was via the browser but not the app , weird ?

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The Equaliser

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BEST OF THE BEST selections today

2.35 Asc Bouquet 6/4                                                         Alt (5) 11/2 one point

3.10 Asc Wharaan 5/2      DTR                                            Alt (1) 11/2

1.15 Hd Hafit 10/11                                                           Alt (3) 5/2

1.45 Hd Lord Glitters 7/4     DTR                                        Alt (1) 7/2

2.20 Hd Valley Forge 5/4                                                   Alt (5) 7/2

3.30 Hd Starman 10/11 DTR                                             Alt (7) 7/2)

1.35 Wex Downthecellar 10/11  DTR                                 Alt (1) 6/1

4.30 Wex Glenquinn Castle 2/1 DTR                                 Alt (10) 11/2

1.20 Nav Chestnutter 8/15 DTR                                       Alt (6) 7/2

4.45 Nav Jeff Kidder 5/4 DTR                                           Alt (9) 14/1

1.25 Str Camprond 4/11 DTR                                          Alt NO BET

3.40 Str Hang In There 4/5 DTR                                      Alt (3) 2/1

5.10 Thsk Southern Voyage 13/8 DTR                            Alt (1) 15/8

6.30 Wolv Loves Me Likearock 11/8                              Alt (5) 4/1

 

Just managed to get £2 win at 4.2 on Wharaan in the 3.10 at Ascot = £6.27 p if it wins

14 selections out of 57 races today 24.5%

 

 

 

 

 

                           

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ipswich45

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Saturday Fancies   Prices William Hill

Ascot
1510 - 3 Chalk Stream       13/2    WON
1545 - 6 Via Serpendipity    11/2   4th
1620 - 4 Passionova      5/1  Unplaced

Haydock
1455 - 1 Global Storm  7/2   Unplaced
1605 - 7 Copper Knight  8/1  2nd
1715 - 7 Fast Medicine  6/1  Unplaced

Kempton
1330 - 4 Manhattanville  9/2  Unplaced
1405 - 1 Hierarchy   9/2   Unplaced
1515 - 4 Tahitian Prince  9/2  WON

Stratford
1615 - 8 Ambassador   5/2  Unplaced

Thirsk
1340 - 2 Fozzie Bear   8/1  3rd
1635 - 2 Star Jewel   9/2  WON

Wolverhampton
1725 - 2 Far From A Ruby   4/1  WON 
1900 - 5 General Panic   11/4  Unplaced
2030 - 6 Wurlitzer    11/2  Unplaced

Navan
1535 - 8 Climate  9/2   WON 5/1
1645 - 4 Dollar Value   7/2  WON

Wexford
1335 - 1 Heliers Bay  5/1  3rd
1520 - 1 Jungle Junction  9/4  2nd

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LEE-GRAYS

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got a few today

Kempton

1.00 Highfaluting 4/1 placed:nana

3.15 Revolutionary man 9/1:wall

3.50 Cephaius 6/1:wall

4.25 Fox leicester 10/1:wall

Haydock

3.30 Summerghand 25/1 :wall

5.15 Lasting legacy 4/1 :wall

Stratford 

2.30 Wilde water 13/2 :wall

4.15 Jalath 11/1:wall

Thirsk

3.25 Equidae 12/1:wall

5.40 Tees spirit 12/1:nanaplaced

Wexford

1.05 justshortofabubble 40/1:wall

1.35 Pretty little lier 10/1 placed 14/1 bog:nana

2.10 Westernerona 11/1:wall

3.55 Gold sun 17/2:wall

4.30 Ballybrowney jack 33/1:wall

Navan

1.50 Rocky dreams 7/1:wall

2.25 Iva batt 7/1 placed:nana

4.10 Parkhill dawn 33/1:wall

4.45 Clondaw hollow 11/1 placed 20/1 bog:nana

Wolves

6.00 Pyrrhos 18/1:wall

all bets 50p e/w bet365

p/l since sept 3rd

Out £17 In £15.08

-£1.92

cheers lee

 

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36 minutes ago, Bang on said:

September running total = +13.21 pts

Todays selections B365 (B.O.G.)

Despite a busy Saturday, my selection method has only thrown up 1 selection. **Please note, as stated before, I Don't do Sundays, I take a days rest.

7.30 Wolv - Bashosh 5/4

great day yday. might start doing a folds acca on urs with that hit rate!

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The Brigadier

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On 9/3/2021 at 3:29 PM, The Brigadier said:
Here are my thoughts on the 8 ITV races for Saturday:-
 
Haydock 1.45
The Group 3 Superior Mile has attracted a disappointing turnout of only five runners and it’s very hard to see past the favourite Lord Glitters here who is officially  the highest rated. David O’Mera’s globetrotting veteran has two of today’s rivals Bell  Rock and My Oberon a length and two and a half lengths respectively behind when runner up to the progressive Real World at York a fortnight ago and is actually better off at the weights with both of those and I find it hard to believe either will turn the tables on the grey. Artistic Rifles and Maydanny are stepping up from handicaps and this really does look Lord Glitters to lose. I’m keen on three shorties today and I also think it’s worth trebling the trio up.
 
LORD GLITTERS 4 points win @ 6/4 Bet365
LORD GLITTERS, STARMAN, HUKUM 2 points win treble
 
Kempton 2.05
Eight two year olds have declared for the Group 3 Sirenia Stakes and it has an open look about it. The best piece of form is arguably brought to the race by Clive Cox’s Wings Of War who was third in the Geoff’s Premier Yearling Sales races at York’s Ebor meeting. He should run well along with Andrew Balding’s Nymphadora who ran a good 5th in the Lowther Stakes last time. I’m happy though to go with the impressive course and distance winner Scot’s Grace who bolted up here back in July and missed a subsequent run at Windsor in August due to the soft ground. Trained by up and coming Newmarket handler Kevin Philippart De Foy the Mehmas filly may represent a touch of each way value (fingers crossed all eight run).
 
SCOTS GRACE 1 point each way @ 5/1 1/5th 123 William Hill
 
 
Haydock 2.20
An interesting 14F handicap for three year olds features the Melrose Handicap winner from York’s Ebor meeting in the unexposed Andrew Balding trained Valley Forge who was pushed out to win by half a length and has been raised 7lb for that success. He’s on the upgrade and looks the one they all have to beat here. Vino Victrix is chasing a hat trick following wins at Sandown and at Kempton and Hughie Morrison’s charge should be thereabouts. All eight runners have some sort of claim but I’ll be sticking with Valley Forge who beat a better field than this last time out.
 
VALLEY FORGE 2 points win @ 2/1 Bet365
 
Kempton 2.40
A disappointing turnout of only five here for the Group 3 September Stakes and a warm favourite in Owen Burrows’ flag bearer Hukum. He will be hard to beat with question marks over his opponents. Second favourite Hamish was trained for the Ebor and was pulled out on the day when the ground dried up. He’s not raced on a synthetic surface before and has to overcome a 442 day absence. Prince Of Arran is surely using this as a stepping stone to another tilt at the Melbourne Cup whilst Fox Tal finds it hard to win nowadays and has acquired the dreaded Timeform squiggle. That just leaves Outbox who Hukum beat by a comfortable 1 1/2L at York in July. Despite a 3lb penalty for his Group 3 victories at York and Newbury this Summer he will be hard to beat on a surface he won on as a two year old.
 
HUKUM 3 points win @ 8/11 BetVictor
 
Haydock 2.55
A lot of the 12 runners for the Old Borough Cup are disappointing sorts who are out of form and I’ll be backing top weight Global Storm who has a touch of class about him. He made no impression when in mid field in the Ebor last time out but had previously been a consistent stayer winning at Newmarket in May and placed in top handicaps at Royal Ascot and Newmarket’s July meeting. His main danger may well be the bottom weight Noble Masquerade who’s receiving 22lb from the selection and comes here on the back of an impressive Windsor victory.
 
GLOBAL STORM 2 points win @ 4/1 William Hill
 
Ascot 3.10
The Lavazza Stakes is a class 2 12F handicap and is contested by some progressive three year olds. Top of the list has to be the Sir Michael Stoute trained Wahraan who followed up comfortable wins at Pontefract and York in July with a slightly unlucky 5th in a decent York handicap where he was beaten 2L by Migration when not getting the clearest of runs close home. He steps up in trip here which should suit and he’s my selection with Ryan Moore taking over from Kieran Shoemark. There are plenty of dangers though amongst whom are William Haggas’s Chalk Stream who’s chasing a hat trick of wins and Gary Moore’s Champagne Piaff who’s up 5lb and two furlongs for his gambled on Windsor victory. He looks Wahraan’s biggest danger to me.
 
WAHRAAN 2 points win @ 3/1 William Hill
 
Haydock 3.30
Eleven classy sprinters go to post for this years renewal of the Betfair Sprint Cup , a Group one contest run over 6F. It’s hard to look beyond favourite Starman with the ground coming right for him. He holds 8 of his 10 rivals on his impressive July Cup victory at Newmarket and in the circumstances ran a blinder last time in the Maurice de Gheest when soft ground and the additional half a furlong was his undoing. Ed Walker will have him spot on for this and it really is his race to lose.
 
STARMAN 4 points win @ 10/11 William Hill
 
Ascot 3.45
An interesting 7F handicap that gives us a couple of nice betting opportunities. Top Secret is the most likely winner to my eyes and has to be part of the staking plan here. He’s a progressive four year old trained by William Muir and Chris Grassick who’s latest second to Neenee’s Choice was franked by that one winning at Salisbury on Thursday. He’s already won over course and distance this season. Last year’s winner Documenting is back on the same mark and following a promising run at Doncaster should be on the premises whilst the other one I want as part of my staking plan is Ascot specialist Ripp Orf who’s track figures read 13125420 with the last run coming before a long absence. He showed very little on his comeback run at Sandown last month but this is his track and the handicapper has dropped him 9lb for his last two starts plus he has the assistance of a decent 7lb claimer in Jonny Peate.
 
TOP SECRET 1 point each way @ 6/1 1/5th odds 1234 Paddy Power
RIP ORFF 1 point each way @ 11/1 1/5th odds 1234 Paddy Power
 
 
 

Not much luck today, looks a day for the layers! Just the one winner at 6/1 and a loss of 15.8 points 

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