Racing Chat- Sunday 15th November

[Villa Chris]

Cheltenham 1.50, Yala Enki 13/2 2nd, money back if 2nd or 3rd

Cheltenham 3.00, Ballyandy 10/1 ew 2nd

Exposed , but keeps finding and competing at a high level. Ran well the other week behind Sceau Royal and the form has been franked. Likes it here, and will appreciate the ground. Expect him to go close and might be too battle hardened for a lot of these. 

Edited November 15, 2020 by Villa Chris

[richard-westwood]

Greatwood hurdle 

Thyme white  299

Tegerek     297

Tough race but top 2 here are fair odds so look value bets to run well 

Thyme white 10pts ew 9/1 pp

Tegerek 10pts ew 8/1 Boyle's 

[Villa Chris]

Brave Eagle non runner.  I had Yala Enki next best so will replace with him 

Cheltenham 1.50 , Yala Enki 13/2

[beaker1]

1:15 – mallardjewellers.com Novices’ Chase.

An interesting Novices’ chase over 3m½f that could see many of these lightly raced horses improve.

With the news coming through that Robbie Power will now be riding in England for the Colin Tizzard stable full time now, he looks to be in with a big chance with The Big Breakaway. After racking up an impressive double over hurdles, the five-year-old has quickly been switched to chasing, and is tried over the 3m trip. His fourth in the Ballymore Novices Hurdle adds to his locker of form. He is very short in the market despite it being his chasing and seasonal debut, and with some of these having some strong form already on offer over fences it could turn out to be a poor price. He hasn’t been seen since March and given how many of the Tizzards’ horses have needed their first run, I’m happy to try and take him on here, even though he’s getting weight from some of these rivals. Don Penfro is the other one making his chasing debut in the field but judging on his hurdling form, he looks well-held as the outsider of the field.

The Mighty Don finally got off the mark at the seventh time of asking but only managed to do so by a neck, beating odds on favourite Enrilo last time out. After falling in the Kauto Star Novices’ Chase on boxing day and falling again next time out, this eight-year-old’s jumping can’t be trusted and he is another who will require a career best to win this.

Wolf Of Windlesham put in an excellent round of jumping to get off the mark at the first time of asking around Fakenham over 3 miles. He bolted clear that day too, beating evens favourite Young Wolf by 11 lengths, and with improvement likely to come, he could go well at a bigger price. Judging by his hurdling form however, he will struggle with getting close to the two at the top of the market.

The Butcher Said, trained by Olly Murphy in the McNeill Family colours, has made an impressive start over the larger obstacles too. Going clear by 12 lengths on his chasing bow over today’s trip, the eight-year-old looked like he would improve from his rating of 139 over hurdles. He didn’t seem to like the drop down to 2m4f, when running into a likely improver out of the Skelton stable, and he appreciated the step up to three miles to score by a nose as odds-on favourite. That isn’t the strongest form on offer by any means, so he’s another who will more than likely struggle faced with his toughest task to date.

This leaves us with the Paul Nicholls runner, SOLIDER OF LOVE, who has been so impressive since being switched to the larger obstacles. Scoring on four of his seven attempts since being sent chasing, the wind operation seems to have worked wonders for this seven-year-old. Although he was beaten seven lengths by Galvin in a tricky novices’ chase around here last month, that from looks solid, having rivals rated 143 and 148 behind him, so this looks a good opportunity for Harry Cobden to add another winner to his tally and put this horse’s experience to good use, over a very short-priced newcomer.

advice:

SOLIDER OF LOVE 1pt WIN @ 10/3 (bet365)

[beaker1]

1:50 – Planteur At Chapel Stud Handicap Chase (Grade 3)

A seriously high-class handicap chase in prospect over the extended three miles and three furlongs and the deteriorating ground conditions mixed with a likely truly run race means that we’ll need a horse that not only stays but has the class required to beat other smart stayers. 

Cloth Cap was a decent third behind Frodon in a similar event here last month, but needs better ground to show his best, so he’ll be of more interest once he’s back on that more solid surface, while it’s a similar story for Crievehill and Brave Eagle, especially at this extreme trip.

Big River was a never-nearer fifth in the Ultima when last seen and in theory, he’s got a right chance from a 2lb higher mark as he’ll have no problem with the ground. However, he made his seasonal reappearance in this last year from a 4lb lower mark and was pulled up, so the likelihood is that this is a starting point for him and one that is unlikely to provide his connections with any prize money.

With Bryan Carver’s 5lb claim, Captain Drake races off a nice low weight here and with a preference for softer ground and as stiff a stamina test as possible, he might run nicely for Harry Fry. He prepped for this with a nice win over hurdles on ground quicker than ideal at Uttoxeter and being just a seven-year-old, he has improvement under the bonnet. His second in the Midlands National off 138 (4lb lower than the 142 he’s rated now) was a good effort, but this is still a big step up for him and with his jumping still a question mark at times – unseated twice in his last four starts over fences – he might find this too stiff a task.

Another who prepped for this with a run over hurdles was RAMSES DE TEILLEE, who was fifth in a Grade 1 in France to open his season and that should put him spot on for this, a first return to fences after finishing a well-beaten fourth in this race last year. He does race here from 149 - a 4lb lower mark than he did that day and any softening of the ground will certainly work in his favour, so when you look at his form, including a close second in the Grand National Trial in 2019 off this mark and a close second in the Welsh National in 2018 from a mark of 144, and consider that he was favourite for this race last year despite giving almost a stone or more to all his rivals, he looks a seriously decent chance here if his jumping holds up. I’m surprised to see him at such a chunky price given he’s had a run this season and conditions are going to play into his hands, but the concern could be that his worst two efforts in the last year have both come at this venue. Still, he’s also won here over that time and it could just be that he’s better early on in the season, so I think that with a 156-rated rival framing the weights, this gives RAMSES DE TEILLEE a cracking chance.

Speaking of last year’s renewal, West Approach comes into this 6lb higher in the weights and off the back of a similarly decent performance in the October contest that Cloth Cap was third in. He looked as if he was going to challenge Frodon there coming up the hill, but his old ways came back again and he found very little when he got close to that rival. There’s every chance, off 1lb lower here, that a similar scenario will unfold, with him travelling into the race better than anyone, but finding nothing when push comes to shove. Therefore, with him being just a 3/1 shot, I couldn’t possibly recommend backing him, he’s just not reliable enough.

Yala Enki heads the weights from a mark of 156 and even though that’s high and he hasn’t had a run yet this season, unlike many of his rivals, there’s every chance that the in-form Paul Nicholls will have gotten him fit enough to do himself justice. However, he has been beaten from marks in and around this number in the last 12 months and you’d think that this might be a prep run for another crack at the Welsh National, in which he went so close last year from a mark of 155, so a few pounds off might help there. There is also this horse’s record at Cheltenham, which is far below his record on flatter tracks, so despite him being the highest rated here, he’s well down my shortlist.

The biggest threat to the selection could actually come from across the Irish Sea in the shape of Discorama, who is as genuine and versatile a horse and you could wish for. He may not have won at Cheltenham yet, but his record is impeccable in terms of placed finishes (Martin Pipe, National Hunt Chase, Ultima). He’s only running off 2lb higher than for the latter placed effort at last season’s Festival, so there’s every chance he can go well again here. He made an excellent seasonal reappearance when a short head second to Milan Native over an insufficient 2m6f and the return to this track and this kind of trip could see him in an even better light. To be honest, he’s absolutely rock solid and it’s hard to pick holes in his chance, but given his history of peaking at The Festival and in the Spring in general, he might not be at as high a level as he could be. That’s clutching at straws though, and the real decision made here was due to price – he’s edging away from being an each-way proposition and it’s a tricky one to tip him to win, despite his consistency, as he’s only actually won twice in his 17-race career so far.

advice:

RAMSES DE TEILLEE 1pt E/W @ 17/2 (Unibet)

[beaker1]

2:25 –  The Shloer Chase (Grade 2) 

The Shloer Chase doesn’t usually attract many runners and a field of 6 go to post over the minimum distance for chasers but it looks a cracker on paper.

With such great form on offer, it is very easy to make a case for every single horse in this race. Firstly, let’s mention the two who are yet to fire at Cheltenham to date and they are Riders Onthe Storm and the outsider Forest Bihan. The former has really come to life since entering the Twiston-Davies stable, completing a strong hat-trick last season. His most notable win came in the four-runner field of the Grade 1 Betfair Ascot Chase, thrashing the only other finisher by 14 lengths. He ran in the Ryanair Chase but his spin was cut short, falling 4 from home when he seemed to be going well again and we could see further improvement this season. He will still need to find a bit extra to deal with the leading market rivals but it’s not impossible. The latter seemed to really enjoy the step up to 2m4f when he produced a career best to land the Monet’s Garden Old Roan Handicap Chase (Grade 2), having horses such as Kalasnikov and Frodon behind him. He did have weight on his side that day, however, and he steps out of handicap company here at a track that may not suit him as well as Aintree does. He’s easy to ignore going back down to two miles, with some classy rivals seemingly having his measure.

2019 Arkle winner, Duc Des Genievres, has now joined the Paul Nicholls stable after failing to get competitive in Grade 1 company for Willie Mullins since landing the Arkle impressively in 2019. The seven-year-old has yet to fire since, finding superstars Min and Chacun Pour Soi too much to deal with, but a change in yard might spark the revival he needs. After the gelding’s 15-length beating in the Ryanair Chase, he has had since undergone a wind operation and it will be interesting to see what he can find today, back over his preferred 2m trip on softer ground. 

After running into some tough novices in Graded company, Rouge Vif returned a stunning winner at last month’s Showcase Meeting and returns to Cheltenham again today. That was his first run out of Novice company but he put the field to bed that day with ease, scoring by over seven lengths off a big mark in a handicap, and a repeat of that should put him close. Since undergoing wind surgery, he has looked classy and his rating now backs that up (164). After beating a well-fancied Skelton horse and on his third in the Arkle, he must get plenty of credit in this race too. He will still need to improve on his seasonal debut to get competitive with the top two but does have race fitness on his side.

 

Put The Kettle On makes the trip over from Ireland once again and she seems to love it here at Cheltenham (2-2). After beating Al Dancer in the Arkle Trial from the front, she jumped well throughout and had Rouge Vif eight lengths back that day, as the outsider. Henry De Bromhead’s charge followed that up in great style to post a career-best when shocking everyone at 16-1 in March, adding further form to his CV. Henry has had nothing but positive words to say about this mare but a lot of things suggest that DEFI DU SEUIL, who was well below-par in the Champion Chase last year, has more to offer and I agree.  

Barry Geraghty rode DEFI DU SEUIL to victory in this race last year but now has the former champion jockey Richard Johnson on his back. After getting his head in front as favourite last year, he is back to defend his crown, but this time, he will arguably have to be even better. After completing a hat-trick of Grade Ones, he has proven time and time again that he is right at the top of the spectrum and he can show that class again today. Philip Hobbs’ seven-year-old was a massive disappointment in the Champion Chase, after being sent off as favourite, but he could well bounce back nicely on his seasonal debut on ground that should suit him.

advice:

DEFI DU SEUIL 2pts WIN @ 2/1 (Sky Bet, Unibet)

[beaker1]

3:00 - Unibet Greatwood Handicap Hurdle (Grade 3)

Perhaps the strongest block of trends associated with this race point towards age and whilst no one age group has dominated, those aged between four and six have proved best to follow. The seven-year-old Khyber Kim is the only winner since 1991 to sit outside the desired bracket which doesn’t bode well for the cohort of older horses in this year’s line-up, the seven-year-olds Main Fact, Harambe, Oakley, Strong Glance, Benny’s Bridge and The Shunter, while those aged eight or older – Ballyandy, Tudor City, Hunters Call & Countister - would be making history if they were to win here.

In competitive handicaps, fine margins can often make the difference and improving horses can often come out on top. The Greatwood is no different as half of the last ten winners had no more than six starts over hurdles prior to lining up here, yet eleven of the last twelve had at least four starts. This looks to be the ideal ‘sweet-spot’ for those improving hurdlers that tend to take this race and it’s surprising how many have fallen into it. Applying that narrow bracket to this year’s field gives us six horses, namely Edwardstone, Sebastopol, Thyme White, Milkwood, Proschema and Pisgah Pike.

Interestingly, the last ten renewals of the race have seen only two horses carry more than 11st 4lb and win the race. This could again reinforce the idea that you need an improving sort for a race like this and one that hasn’t shown his/her hand over hurdles in their career just yet. It could mean the task for the likes of the well-supported Main Fact and the veterans Ballyandy and Tudor City is more difficult than it may appear.

However, that is not to say that lower-rated horses win this race, in fact the opposite is true. An official rating of 136 appears to be the benchmark as eight of the last ten winners sat on or above this mark, up to 151 – 2018’s winner, Nietzsche and 2013 winner, Dell’Arca, were rated 126 and 128 respectively – very much lower rated than the general profile of the usual Greatwood winner. In terms of this year’s field, the first 12 on the racecard, bar the 154-rated Ballyandy, qualify here, all the way down to Cormier.

Race fitness has often been a positive in this race judging by recent history and eight of the last twelve winners had a run already that season, while ten of the last 12 winners had experience of Cheltenham under their belts, something that is always important at this unique venue.

As always, the final factor worthy of consideration is the betting and unlike many races of this kind, big-priced winners are almost commonplace with all the last twelve favourites being beaten and only three winners in that time having come from the first three in the betting – bad news for the likes of Edwardstone, Thyme White, Main Fact and Proschema who are battling for favouritism at the time of writing. In fact, seven of the last ten winners have gone off at double-figure odds, so don’t be frightened of a chunky price! 

Shortlist:

SIR PSYCHO – 6/7

Sebastopol – 6/7

Thyme White – 6/7

Conclusion

While none of our contenders match all the trends, three match all but one, so the shortlist is nice and easy to put together here. Given the stable’s form and record in this race (won two of the last nine) it’s not a big surprise to see both Paul Nicholls-trained contenders right at the top of the list. Thyme White is the shortest priced of the pair and seemingly for good reason as the four-year-old was an impressive winner of a Chepstow handicap hurdle on his last start. Nicholls quickly nominated this as his next target and despite an 11lb rise in the weights that could make things a little trickier on softer ground, he should go well. 

However, personal preference here is for his stablemate, SIR PSYCHO, who was an extremely promising fifth in the 2m3½f Silver Trophy at Chepstow on his seasonal reappearance. This four-year-old cruised to the front like much the best horse in the race turning for home, but found the extended run in too much of a stamina test for him at the Welsh venue, so this drop in trip should suit him nicely, especially if the forecast rain materialises and turns the ground soft. He was a good fifth in the Triumph Hurdle last season after hacking up in the Victor Ludorum so has a high level of form already to his name and if the race is run at a decent clip, there won’t be many coming up the hill as strongly as him. SIR PSYCHO is a big price for a horse of his quality and is a cracking each-way bet with a changeable forecast in the offing.

The final horse on the shortlist is the Tom Lacey-trained Sebastopol and he does come with a warning – if the ground turns properly soft, his chance is diminished greatly. He’s best on ground with ‘Good’ in it but he’s a horse who, despite only having had five starts over hurdles, is already experienced in the handicap arena, with two wins from three runs. He’s another strong stayer at two miles, so this big field scenario should play to his strengths, but his stable’s form is a concern, as is the weather.

[beaker1]

4:05 – High Sheriff Of Gloucestershire Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race (Listed Race) 

The best bumper of the year so far and there are some serious horses in this, including the current favourite Weseekhimhere, who has already won two bumpers for Gordon Elliott over in Ireland. He was impressive in September, winning by nine lengths on soft ground, but the form of his wins is up for debate, with the third from his latter win being beaten miles on hurdling debut (poor jumping a factor there) and the second from his first win beaten almost as far in a Mares’ bumper in October. He could be good and Gordon Elliott often has the best bumper horses, but he’s too short a price for me to be suggesting an investment.

There are plenty of other winners running here, including Conceroe and Masteroftheheights, but both of their wins came in pretty poor races and it’s a stretch to think that they’ll be up to winning this. Stage Star cleared right away in a Chepstow bumper on soft ground with the assistance of Lorcan Williams’ 3lb claim, so he should have no issue with any softening of the ground and hails from the in-form Nicholls stable, but again, the form of that win is questionable and to see him at such a short price is surprising to me up in class and without a weight claim from his pilot, Harry Cobden, this time around.

One winner I was seriously impressed by, however, is GRANDEUR D’AME, who bolted up in a Newton Abbot contest on heavy ground, defeating a horse of David Pipe’s, Gericault Rouge, who the stable rate highly and was promising in his own right. Back in third was Bucko’s Boy, who had already won one of those fairly weak bumpers I described earlier at Hexham, and he was beaten a good ten lengths despite his superior experience. There is every chance this Oliver Sherwood-trained four-year-old could be a proper horse as a full brother to the stable’s Dominateur, who has been rated as high as 145, and with the experience and enjoyment of deep ground under his belt, there’s no weather here that will phase him. He travelled into that win like a serious animal and he’s got a great chance to prove it here – I think he’s going to be very very good.

One debutant to note as a threat is the Nicky Henderson-trained Firestep, who I’ve noticed has held entries in some decent bumpers already through the start of the season, but hasn’t taken to the track just yet. He could be good as Henderson isn’t a huge fan of bumpers (especially those at this venue in March!) but he’s pitching him in at this high level as a starting point. However, he was taken out of a race at Chepstow last week on account of significantly soft ground, so the weather conditions could see him taken out again closer to the time.

advice:

GRANDEUR D’AME 1pt WIN @ 4/1 (William Hill)

[Little Punt]

Been raining heavy all night at Fontwell, where the going is still said to be soft,

Will not be surprised if it changes to soft/heavy, maybe heavy after morning

course inspection

[alancraik]

todays system selections

CHELTENHAM 13:50 Yala Enki 5/1 e/w 2 places

CHELTENHAM 14:25 Put The Kettle On 85/40 win

CHELTENHAM 15:00 Ballyandy 15/2 e/w 5 places

plus win trixie


CHELTENHAM 13:50 West Approach 4/1 win

CHELTENHAM 14:25 Defi Du Seuil 6/5 win

plus win double

I hate it when horses get equal scores, decided to not use my judgement and back them all.

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[Wildgarden]

1140 southwell lay (put to lose) grimsthorpe castle. Mullen was pushing the horse all the way and with only a week's rest I can see it tired and if Mullen doesn't push the same it's likely to lose anyway.

[Bathtime For Rupert]

All prices Bet365:
 

12.40 Southwell - 1pt e/w Plum Run @ 9/1

Poor race and I think David Evans' runner is overpriced. Has bits and pieces of form and some of its best efforts have come on the all-weather. Ran okay from the front in a better race at Lingfield two starts back, is well drawn to attack from stall 1 and has 7lbs taken off its back so looks capable of going well at a decent price.

1.00 Fontwell - 1pt e/w Kap Auteuil @ 14/1

Only shown bits and pieces of promise so far but this one is a full sibling to grade 1 winning chaser A Plus Tard so is bred to be much better than a 110-rated horse and should benefit from the switch to fences here. Had excuses in good company in novice races - running okay behind some nice types when last seen. Needed the run before that and now handicapping with fitness on side, could go well at a price.

1.10 Southwell - 1pt e/w Alba Del Sole @ 16/1

Has had excuses in recent runs, either having too much to do, racing over less than ideal trips or in hot races. Back to 5f suits, has run well enough at Southwell in the past, this race is weaker than some of those it's been competing in and as outsider of the party, can go well if keeping up with them in the early stages.

1.50 Cheltenham - 2pts win West Approach @ 5/1

Last year's winner has had a virtually identical prep this year, going down by just over a length here last year before landing the spoils in this race. West Approach was narrowly fought off by Frodon here recently but didn't meet either of the final two fences on a good stride and couldn't get by. Jumped and travelled well and looks sure to be competitive again with that under his belt and conditions suiting. 

2.25 Cheltenham - 2pts win Riders Onthestorm @ 4/1

I think this one should be second favourite here to be honest as was impressive in novice chases last year and will relish the test on soft ground here. If Defi Du Seuil is back to his best he'll take the beating but flopped at the festival and first time out hasn't always been the best time to catch him. Riders Onthestorm did very little wrong last year, I don't think the drop in trip will inconvenience him and ought to go well.

2.55 Southwell - 1pt e/w First Excel @ 14/1

Shaped as if in need of the run last time but is very well handicapped and these conditions are ideal. I'm not too put off by the below par effort last time as this one regularly goes well second time after a break and I'm less concerned about wide draws around Southwell as I might be elsewhere. Open race but at a decent each-way price, will put my faith in this one to come on plenty for its recent run.

3.00 Cheltenham - 1pt e/w The Shunter @ 10/1

Looks fairly handicapped back over hurdles having shown a rapid improvement for his new trainer. Beat a good horse over hurdles recently and then bolted up in a novice chase. Not disgraced in a decent race last time but returns to hurdles off a light weight and has the tongue tie applied which looks a good move. Isn't the easiest ride so slight concern that Robbie Power takes over from his regular jockey but he's not a bad deputy and will chance at 10s.

3.35 Cheltenham - 2pts win Fidelio Vallis @ 9/2

I think the favourite is beatable and Fidelio Vallis looks a huge threat on recent form when seeing off smart rivals or just failing to give weight to a good one last time. A couple of these have best form on good ground but it's certainly not that today and the favourite has only been workmanlike in novice races worse than those being won by Paul Nicholls' runner so I'm very much on Fidelio Vallis's side today.

[Tedthewolf]

 Greatwood Hurdle

THINKING  e/w  6 places 14/1

COUNTISTER  e/w 6places 33/1

TUDOR CITY e/w 6places 66/1

[Wildgarden]

27 minutes ago, Wildgarden said:

1140 southwell lay (put to lose) grimsthorpe castle. Mullen was pushing the horse all the way and with only a week's rest I can see it tired and if Mullen doesn't push the same it's likely to lose anyway.

2nd by nk... Rode well today slowly bring in and kept on to narrow 2nd - win the lay nevertheless.

[Villa Chris]

The Big Breakaway looks an exciting prospect over fences 

[ipswich45]

Remaining ITV & SSR races   - Prices are Bet365

1425 Cheltenham  -  3 Riders On The Storm  9/2 -  3rd in a different postcode
1440 Fontwell  -  5 Sly Minx    10/3   - 3rd a long way back
1455 Southwell  -  4 Pull Harder Con    11/2   WON
1500 Cheltenham  -  18 The Shunter      10/1 EW  WON
1515 Fontwell   -  2 Cloudy Glen    9/2    WON
1530 Southwell  -  5 Sharrabang   12/1   EW  2nd
1535 Cheltenham  -  1 Courtandbould    11/2  - last 
1550 Fontwell  -  3 Dharma Rain  4/1   WON in the stewards room see further post below

Edited November 15, 2020 by ipswich45
results being added

[alancraik]

5 hours ago, alancraik said:

todays system selections

CHELTENHAM 13:50 Yala Enki 5/1 e/w 2 places 2nd

CHELTENHAM 14:25 Put The Kettle On 85/40 win 1 st

CHELTENHAM 15:00 Ballyandy 15/2 e/w 5 places 2nd

plus win trixie


CHELTENHAM 13:50 West Approach 4/1 win up

CHELTENHAM 14:25 Defi Du Seuil 6/5 win up

plus win double

I hate it when horses get equal scores, decided to not use my judgement and back them all.

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[Villa Chris]

22 hours ago, Villa Chris said:

Cheltenham 1.50, Yala Enki 13/2 2nd, money back if 2nd or 3rd

Cheltenham 3.00, Ballyandy 10/1 ew 2nd

Exposed , but keeps finding and competing at a high level. Ran well the other week behind Sceau Royal and the form has been franked. Likes it here, and will appreciate the ground. Expect him to go close and might be too battle hardened for a lot of these. 

Both selections ran well and certainly got a run for my money.  4 points profit on the day. Better than a kick in the teeth. 

[richard-westwood]

21 hours ago, richard-westwood said:

Greatwood hurdle 

Thyme white  299

Tegerek     297

Tough race but top 2 here are fair odds so look value bets to run well 

Thyme white 10pts ew 9/1 pp

Tegerek 10pts ew 8/1 Boyle's 

Nonerunner  and 3rd ....ew money 

Edited November 15, 2020 by richard-westwood

[ipswich45]

a lengthy enquiry 1550 Fontwell will occur   what a mess that was  Sandown 2  

Dharma Rain finished well back in 7th but was the only horse to jump the 3rd last hurdle which could win in an enquiry   looked like they were trying to bypass a fallen horse but the ground teams were trying to put bypasses in place   it got really messy all but Dharma Rain missed the hurdle that was according to Mark Johnson commentating it was meant to be jumped  

first of all fingers crossed the horse / jockey are fine 

Stewards Enquiry Result:
Following about a 30 min enquiry the stewards determined   places revised Dharma Rain wins the race all the other horses been disqualified    

did anyone else watch the race??  Jack Tudor wins by finishing 7th 

Edited November 15, 2020 by ipswich45
Stewards Result

[Villa Chris]

Probably best voiding it. Sounds like Dharma Rain had no chance of winning so it would not be right to award the race to the horse. In same breath the winner missed an hurdle so unfair to award race to that horse. Probably Another case of misunderstanding, so void it. 

[ipswich45]

3 minutes ago, Villa Chris said:

Probably best voiding it. Sounds like Dharma Rain had no chance of winning so it would not be right to award the race to the horse. In same breath the winner missed an hurdle so unfair to award race to that horse. Probably Another case of misunderstanding, so void it. 

Dharma Rain been given it     all others disqualified 

[Villa Chris]

Just now, ipswich45 said:

Dharma Rain been given it     all others disqualified 

Did the fallen horse get back up or bad news? 

[ipswich45]

7 minutes ago, Villa Chris said:

Did the fallen horse get back up or bad news? 

Fallen horse was stood up and being held by the jockey by the running rail when the runners went by  so looks good news thankfully

[Villa Chris]

3 minutes ago, ipswich45 said:

Fallen horse was stood up and being held by the jockey by the running rail when the runners went by  so looks good news thankfully

That’s good news then. Bet you won’t have another winner like that ?

[ipswich45]

all credit to Jack Tudor for taking the hurdle as he said to Robert Cooper the bypass markers were not in the hurdle but was 50/50 about actually taking the hurdle 

[Villa Chris]

8 minutes ago, ipswich45 said:

all credit to Jack Tudor for taking the hurdle as he said to Robert Cooper the bypass markers were not in the hurdle but was 50/50 about actually taking the hurdle 

It’s like driving a car. You only get a split second sometimes to make a decision and he made the right one although he’s admitted he weren’t sure what he was doing. 

[ipswich45]

Stewards Report on the Fontwell incident taken from the BHA website

https://media.britishhorseracing.com/pdf/stewardsreport/?fixtureId=822&year=2020

Race 7 - 3:50pm. THE 'FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH PODCAST' MARES' HANDICAP HURDLE RACE (CLASS 5) An enquiry was held to establish the placings in this race due to all riders, except for Jack Tudor, the rider of DHARMA RAIN (IRE), by-passing the third flight from home on the final circuit. They interviewed Jeremiah McGrath, the rider of KENTFORD MALLARD, Jack Tudor, the rider of DHARMA RAIN (IRE), Brendan Powell, the rider of KALAYA (IRE), Page Fuller, the rider of QUEEN AMONG KINGS (IRE), Lucy Gardner, the rider of HAVACUPPA, Harry Reed, the rider of JUST HENNY, Tabitha Worsley, the rider of LUCKY CIRCLE, Sean Houlihan, the rider of BLUEBELL SALLY, and Niall Houlihan, the rider of REMEMBER ME WELL (IRE), the Clerk of the Course, and the Racecourse Head Groundsman and an additional member of the groundstaff. Having heard all the evidence and viewed recordings of the incident, the Stewards revised the placings as follows: 1st DHARMA RAIN (IRE), all other runners were disqualified for taking the wrong course, under Rule (F) 37. However, taking into account, on this occasion; the poor visibility, and the illusion that the chevrons had been placed in the hurdle – which was caused by the chevrons being carried across the course behind the hurdle, which gave riders’ cause for concern for the safety of all involved – no penalties were imposed on any rider. They further ordered a report to be forwarded to the Head Office of the British Horseracing Authority.

[The Equaliser]

12 hours ago, Little Punt said:

Been raining heavy all night at Fontwell, where the going is still said to be soft,

Will not be surprised if it changes to soft/heavy, maybe heavy after morning

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