BillyHills Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 These virtual National's have been fairly accurate over the years and you would have to think that Tiger Roll would go very close in this years event. The computer technology takes into account course form, jumping ability, current form as well as the weights etc... This makes the two-time winner a certainty to make the frame at least. There has been talk of some bookies especially the sponsors Betfred actually taking bets on it, i'm guessing they will make Tiger Roll a 3/1 - 7/2 favourite to put people off backing him each way. In the race of champions Red Rum will be the hot favourite and has been priced up in a match with Tiger Roll Red Rum 1/2 , Tiger Roll 6/4 Any thoughts?? Timeform Quote ITV Racing will aim to fill the void left after the cancellation of the Grand National with a computer-simulated running of the race. The Virtual Grand National will broadcast live at 5pm on Saturday, the day the race was scheduled to be run. Using the latest CGI technology, the TV special will feature the 40 horses and riders who were most likely to run in the Aintree spectacular. It hopes to answer the key question in racing - could Tiger Roll have won the 2020 race and entered the history books as a three-times back-to-back winner? Executive producer Rob McLoughlin said: "It's very sad not to have the real race, but Inspired's virtual race is fascinating and fun and has proven since 2017 to be incredibly accurate. "It is brave to preview the most unpredictable race of all, but also great fun. "In these difficult times we want the public to simply enjoy the race that sadly never was and think about what might have been." There will also be a race of champions, featuring dual winners Red Rum and Tiger Roll. "It is the dream race, the one everyone will want to see, the legend and the competitor head-to-head and it can only happen as part of this ITV special," said Richard Pitman, who went agonisingly close to winning the National on Crisp in 1973 when caught close home by Red Rum. "Both (Red Rum and Tiger Roll) were trained for the Flat, both are small and both have found a natural home over the Aintree jumps, so to see them compete with 38 other famous legends over the real course and famous fences will be magnificent." Pitman joins Nick Luck and guests for The Virtual Grand National TV special, with the animation created by Inspired Entertainment. "In 2017, Cause Of Causes won the Virtual Grand National and came a close second in the real race hours later," said Steve Rogers, chief commercial officer for Virtual Sports at Inspired. "The 2018 result was breathtaking as Tiger Roll won both in almost identical circumstances and the computer chose three of the top five finishers, including Tiger Roll, in 2019. "My team have been working round the clock to make this year even more realistic than ever, and we can't wait to screen the Red Rum versus Tiger Roll match. It's terrific TV." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Seen it confirmed that bookies will bet on it with all profits going to nhs charities Trotter and BillyHills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 I don't think I've ever watched a virtual horse race .......... should be interesting ! I'm expecting a cartoon but maybe that's just me being way behind on technology ..... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, Trotter said: I don't think I've ever watched a virtual horse race .......... should be interesting ! I'm expecting a cartoon but maybe that's just me being way behind on technology ..... ? Its pretty good Trotter from what i can remember from last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 not sure what happened with the link there BH ..... here's the 2019 version It does look pretty good ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 Snap ? Trotter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Looks much more realistic than I thought it would .... should be fun ! BillyHills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Plenty of the bookie websites have virtual Aintree races now obviously that’s a random number draw compared to this one which is based on reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Grand National Saturday 4th April 2020 Tiger Roll5 Any Second Now10 Burrows Saint12 Definitly Red14 Kimberlite Candy16 Walk In The Mill16 Magic Of Light18 Potters Corner18 Anibale Fly20 Bristol De Mai20 Elegant Escape20 Alpha Des Obeaux25 Ballyoptic25 Ok Corral25 Talkischeap25 Pleasant Company28 Yala Enki28 Acapella Bourgeois33 Beware The Bear33 Sub Lieutenant33 Vintage Clouds33 Jury Duty40 The Storyteller40 Total Recall40 Top Ville Benin45 Death Duty50 Dounikos50 Jett50 Kildisart50 Lake View Lad50 Aso66 Crievehill66 Peregrine Run66 Ramses De Teillee66 Saint Xavier66 Shattered Love66 Valtor66 Tout Est Permis80 Warriors Tale80 Double Shuffle100 Horses & Betting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted April 2, 2020 Author Share Posted April 2, 2020 Betting at Betvictor and William Hill Looks like they have made it 5 places at 1/5 odds so you get your money back on Tiger Roll being placed. Bet to nothing surely?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary66 Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 I’m going to do the two I backed anti post beware the bear and any second now bit of fun and something to look forward to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Anibale Fly e/w for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Given tiger roll didn’t win the virtual national last year it’s hard to think they will give it to him this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard-westwood Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 (edited) Well ...this is an interesting situation ....a virtual grand national pitted against what is in theory the same thing happening in my computer so this will be fun to see what happens lol .......first pass the computer has narrowed to 10 horses ....I'll edit as it updates over next couple hours 5 anibale fly 10 alpha des obeax 15 yale enki 16 ballyoptic 18 definitely red 22 vintage clouds 23 crievehill 27acapella borgois 29 any second now 35 valtor 2nd pass lose vintage clouds and a capella 5 10 15 16 18 23 29 35 Final pass left 3 horses Anibale fly Yala enki Alpha des obeaux For the 4th place ....any second now is showing 4th Cant narrow anymore but I'd grade them in the order above as they are ......now let's see what the supercomputer makes of it compared to my tiny one lol Edited April 3, 2020 by richard-westwood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 I'm convinced Tiger Roll will be placed, the price of 5/1 at a 1/5 odds just stinks, its a good move by the bookies to generate turnover and just give the money back to the customers to bet on something else. So who will mug him on the run-in?? My top 4 1 Potters Corner 2 Tiger Roll 3 Any Second Now 4 Walk In The Mill LeMale and Sir Puntalot 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, BillyHills said: I'm convinced Tiger Roll will be placed, the price of 5/1 at a 1/5 odds just stinks, I'm convinced Anibale fly will be placed that's 2 we have now we need 3 more to complete the first 5 home get studying folks have you e/w cert? BillyHills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 1 hour ago, BillyHills said: I'm convinced Tiger Roll will be placed, the price of 5/1 at a 1/5 odds just stinks, its a good move by the bookies to generate turnover and just give the money back to the customers to bet on something else. So who will mug him on the run-in?? My top 4 1 Potters Corner 2 Tiger Roll 3 Any Second Now 4 Walk In The Mill The computer set the odds not the bookies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Darran said: The computer set the odds not the bookies Yes, And they just happen to be about the same as they were ante-post. I don't think they should have included Peregrine Run, who is not actually qualified to run in the race. Should be fun, lots of finishers i'm presuming too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroni Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 20 hours ago, Darran said: Given tiger roll didn’t win the virtual national last year it’s hard to think they will give it to him this year. Agree with you, Tiger Roll now has more weight than last years race and now has top weight to carry here. I was looking for something like a Rathvinden or Cause of Causes who both won the 4 miler a cheltenham and performed well in this virtual race, but i don't see anything along those lines this year. So think i will just have a stab at 2 horses who started fav for their 4 miler at cheltenham but failed to finish, Jury Duty(40/1) and Ok Corral(25/1). Jury Duty was 3rd in this race last year, travelled wide most the way and is now 8lb better off with Tiger Roll, so 40/1 looks good price for this virtual race although could never of backed it for the real national itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villa Chris Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 Walk In The Mill 16/1 Kimberlite Candy 16/1 Bit Of fun and for a good cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darran Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2020/apr/04/talking-horses-millions-will-tune-in-for-itv-virtual-grand-national-horse-racing?CMP=share_btn_tw Tedthewolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FleetFanatic Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Well I started doing ratings the other week, sacked it off when they cancelled. But Ballyoptic, Potters Corner & Kimberlite Candy all scored well, gonna have a fun play on those 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tedthewolf Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 First 5 home in any order Tiger Roll Anabale Fly Potters Corner Kimberlite Candy Ok Coral Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMale Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 OK Ted, i'll give it a go. My first 5 in any order:- Anibale Fly Tiger Roll Burrows Saint Jury Duty Alpha Des Obeaux Tedthewolf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 On 4/3/2020 at 9:50 AM, BillyHills said: I'm convinced Tiger Roll will be placed, the price of 5/1 at a 1/5 odds just stinks, its a good move by the bookies to generate turnover and just give the money back to the customers to bet on something else. So who will mug him on the run-in?? My top 4 1 Potters Corner WON 2 Tiger Roll 4th 3 Any Second Now 3rd 4 Walk In The Mill 2nd OMG first 4 in a fashion? Villa Chris, kroni, daveg and 12 others 12 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 That's unreal @BillyHills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeMale Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 35 minutes ago, BillyHills said: OMG first 4 in a fashion? That's bloody unbelievable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted April 4, 2020 Author Share Posted April 4, 2020 Not surprising, I sit on a computer for most of the day, i know how their minds work ? Redno2009, LeMale and MCLARKE 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kroni Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 7 horses Refused, when only 2 have Refused in the real race since 2010 is very unrealistic, but i would say that as both mine Refused well done anyone who won Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 3 hours ago, kroni said: 7 horses Refused, when only 2 have Refused in the real race since 2010 is very unrealistic, but i would say that as both mine Refused Another strange one was in the Champions Race All those hoses had won a Grand National so obviously they'd all jumped round in a decent time Yet the computer decided that one of them would Fall at the first fence ........... I wonder what that was based on ? and if they just decided to have a horse fall at the first how did they decide which one it would be ..... random pick ? Could it have just thrown up Red Rum's nmber as a 1 in 40 chance ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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