F.A.B.

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Im not an advocate of backing multiple horses in the same race as its hard enough to beat the bookmaker without betting against yourself in the process,but each to their own.

You need 2 races in 3 (66%) min correct to make a profit , anything under that you will lose money, no staking plan in the world can change that.

Your using variable staking per bet making you risk bearing so your variance per bet graphed out will look like a map of the alps.

For a start make your bets more risk averse.(the longer you stay in the game the more chance you have)

Have a fixed common denominator say 30pts per race for all races ( or whatever denomination you feel comfortable with) and dutch all the horses for that day together to give an equal payout whichever wins

ie 1 race 30pts dutched between 3 horses or 2 races = 60pts dutched between 6 horses etc etc

This wont make losing races into winners but should reduce the variance .

As mentioned before , if possible try and stick to non-handicap races, if non opt for the better class Handicap races over lower ones, as handicap races by nature are there to be exploited by trainers.

If you have multiple races in a day try to keep it to the the race you think is the best bet for the day, more races and higher volume betting only makes you lose faster if your not hitting your winning %age just the same as increasing stakes after a loser would

Apart from the above keep detailed record and you'll soon see where the problems lie.

ATB

VT :ok

 

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23 minutes ago, Valiant Thor said:

Im not an advocate of backing multiple horses in the same race as its hard enough to beat the bookmaker without betting against yourself in the process,but each to their own.

You need 2 races in 3 (66%) min correct to make a profit , anything under that you will lose money, no staking plan in the world can change that.

Your using variable staking per bet making you risk bearing so your variance per bet graphed out will look like a map of the alps.

For a start make your bets more risk averse.(the longer you stay in the game the more chance you have)

Have a fixed common denominator say 30pts per race for all races ( or whatever denomination you feel comfortable with) and dutch all the horses for that day together to give an equal payout whichever wins

ie 1 race 30pts dutched between 3 horses or 2 races = 60pts dutched between 6 horses etc etc

This wont make losing races into winners but should reduce the variance .

As mentioned before , if possible try and stick to non-handicap races, if non opt for the better class Handicap races over lower ones, as handicap races by nature are there to be exploited by trainers.

If you have multiple races in a day try to keep it to the the race you think is the best bet for the day, more races and higher volume betting only makes you lose faster if your not hitting your winning %age just the same as increasing stakes after a loser would

Apart from the above keep detailed record and you'll soon see where the problems lie.

ATB

VT :ok

 

Thanks for the feedback and advice. Having done a little research the square root betting system looks of interest, takes a little working out though, splitting the stakes equally may be the answer. I would be interested to hear from anyone who uses this method of staking plan.

 

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8 hours ago, F.A.B. said:

 Having done a little research the square root betting system looks of interest, takes a little working out though, splitting the stakes equally may be the answer. I would be interested to hear from anyone who uses this method of staking plan.

 

It must have been a "little research" as for the SQRT betting to work you first have to be in profit which you are not.

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It takes a little working out though

No it doesn't its just the SQRT of any profit added to a fixed stake

In the old days people called it Alchemy .. trying to turn lead into gold , It didnt work then and wont work now

Might sound a bit blunt but I'm honest , hit over 66% you make a profit , under 66% you lose......... end of .

You put up any staking system you want

 Loss Recovery
 Normal Staking
 Level Staking
 Percentage
 Ratchet Staking
 VDW Staking
 Banded Staking
 Square Root
 Stepper Staking
 Labouchere
 Martingale
 Fibonnaci
 Kelly Staking
 Retirement Staking Plan
 Reverse Labouchere

You will still lose money as your results do not hit the required 66%age win rate

You state "Its all about the maths " so what part of that do you not understand

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13 hours ago, F.A.B. said:

I think you will agree the selection process is regularly producing a good percentage of winners but maybe on reflection needs a better staking plan. Come on guys give me your thoughts and ideas.

For someone who says they've been gambling for over 50 years, I find it bemusing that you base a system mainly on the strike rate.

As for staking plans, unless a systems ROI% is at a decent level , level stakes is the only real option in my opinion.

How many bets have you made using this system?

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11 hours ago, Valiant Thor said:

It must have been a "little research" as for the SQRT betting to work you first have to be in profit which you are not.

No it doesn't its just the SQRT of any profit added to a fixed stake

In the old days people called it Alchemy .. trying to turn lead into gold , It didnt work then and wont work now

Might sound a bit blunt but I'm honest , hit over 66% you make a profit , under 66% you lose......... end of .

You put up any staking system you want

 Loss Recovery
 Normal Staking
 Level Staking
 Percentage
 Ratchet Staking
 VDW Staking
 Banded Staking
 Square Root
 Stepper Staking
 Labouchere
 Martingale
 Fibonnaci
 Kelly Staking
 Retirement Staking Plan
 Reverse Labouchere

You will still lose money as your results do not hit the required 66%age win rate

You state "Its all about the maths " so what part of that do you not understand

I find your response somewhat rude. I joined the forum expecting it to be a group of friendly fellow punters but this does not seem to be the case. You don't know anything about me to try to insult my intelligence. The system does produce a good percentage of winners all i was asking was seeking and asking was which would be the best staking plan to make it a profitable system. If you wish to respond please keep the tone to something more respectful.

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7 hours ago, Escaping Captivity said:

For someone who says they've been gambling for over 50 years, I find it bemusing that you base a system mainly on the strike rate.

As for staking plans, unless a systems ROI% is at a decent level , level stakes is the only real option in my opinion.

How many bets have you made using this system?

Once again we have someone who feels the need to be disrespectful in their attitude. If you wish to comment please do not make them personal. I have produced a plan for producing regular winners which i have shared with everyone and was asking other punters their opinion on the best staking plan to implement it. 

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1 hour ago, F.A.B. said:

I find your response somewhat rude. I joined the forum expecting it to be a group of friendly fellow punters but this does not seem to be the case. You don't know anything about me to try to insult my intelligence. The system does produce a good percentage of winners all i was asking was seeking and asking was which would be the best staking plan to make it a profitable system.If you wish to respond please keep the tone to something more respectful.

 

If being honest is disrespectful then so be it.

But the fact still stands whether you like the answer or not

Your strike rate is too low hence you will not make a profit ...END OF

and no staking system will alter that only enhance losses.

 

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If you wish to respond please keep the tone to something more respectful.

HMMM someone else used to post on here and say similar thing when they didn't like other posters replies

maybe your the reincarnation of Bob Patrick ;)

 

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1 hour ago, F.A.B. said:

Once again we have someone who feels the need to be disrespectful in their attitude. If you wish to comment please do not make them personal. I have produced a plan for producing regular winners which i have shared with everyone and was asking other punters their opinion on the best staking plan to implement it. 

You titled the thread "it's all about the maths" so where's the evidence to support this claim?

I've asked you a couple of straightforward questions but you conveniently avoided them so I'm beginning to think this is some kind of wind-up.

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13 hours ago, Valiant Thor said:

Might sound a bit blunt but I'm honest , hit over 66% you make a profit , under 66% you lose......... end of .

VT is your statement based on FAB's system or generally ?

9 hours ago, Escaping Captivity said:

I find it bemusing that you base a system mainly on the strike rate.

:loon :) :lol  VT have you something to say to EC.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Xtc12 said:

 

VT is your statement based on FAB's system or generally ?

 

FAB's system

he states he has a good sr 55% ish but as he needs 66% min to make a profit then the 55% sr is irrelevant as he will always lose money

10 minutes ago, Xtc12 said:

 

:loon :) :lol  VT have you something to say to EC.

 

 

His statement was to FAB not me ,

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53 minutes ago, keef75 said:

This has a strike rate of about 37% - http://rdata.uk/q.php?k=A5MS0XKW5K0KCWOWGKSCKKO8W - surely you have to take into account the SPs?  If 2 out of 10 10/1 shots come in then a 20% strike rate is profitable.

You will find the reason this has a 36.96% win rate is purely the fact that you are backing odds at an average win price of around 2.71 @ level stakes

You cannot simply replace 10/1 shots in as then you wouldn't have your 36.96% sr

IF is a big word for 2 letters when used improperly and without just reasoning

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Jesus guys, you are a tough audience.:lol

Think he thought he had found the holy grail, we all have been there.:\

Public trials are brave and its a shame only a few of us give it a go. 
Its a pity as the forum will die along with the others without individual threads.

Some good advice given here and hopefully F.A.B can use it wisely:hope

Backtest, Backtest, Backtest, Backtest a bit more and then publish

:ok

 

 

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2 minutes ago, BillyHills said:

Jesus guys, you are a tough audience.:lol

Think he thought he had found the holy grail, we all have been there.:\

Public trials are brave and its a shame only a few of us give it a go. 
Its a pity as the forum will die along with the others without individual threads.

Some good advice given here and hopefully F.A.B can use it wisely:hope

Backtest, Backtest, Backtest, Backtest a bit more and then publish

:ok

 

 

....and papertrade going forward as well! (Backtest too much and you just end up backfitting!) Get your drift tho' BH.

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17 minutes ago, BillyHills said:

Jesus guys, you are a tough audience.:lol

I dont think so

What would you have punters do, say its the greatest system ever created while letting him piss his money down the drain(if he actually backs them that is).

Or give an honest opinion.

Some people can take it some cant just like in real life, like the old saying "you can lead a horse to water..."

As for the forum dying thats more to do with the age of Twatter and Fraudbook IMO

I err on the side of "teach a man to fish" rather than "give a man a fish" ,

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Fair point VT and I have no problem with you at all, I'm all for saying it like it is.

its just I try to encourage new members to stick around for more than a week or we will just end up a Competition based forum. We get enough guys that just pop in when a bit of cash is on offer. 

Nobody has time for a discussion anymore, or to afraid to stick their chest out.

By the way, Its funny how that Bob disappeared the same time as GT:ok

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47 minutes ago, keef75 said:

Sorry, I don't think I explained that too well, I wasn't simply replacing the 10/1 in the first example, it was an additional example, my point was that it is dependent on the SP.

They are both interlinked each one needs the other

SR < INV(ave win odds) = loss

SR > INV(ave win odds) = profit

Its finding the balance thats the hard part :ok

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9 hours ago, Valiant Thor said:

SR < INV(ave win odds) = loss

SR > INV(ave win odds) = profit

For us non mathematicians is the above stating :

If your SR is greater than INV  (average win odds ) you are on a winner !

INV ??

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52 minutes ago, Xtc12 said:

For us non mathematicians is the above stating :

If your SR is greater than INV  (average win odds ) you are on a winner !

INV ??

Sorry its just a habit Ive got into when writing stuff down rather than doing the calculations in full

INV = Inverse

ie The inverse of 6/4 is 40% etc etc

or you can use the MINVERSE  function in excel

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Despite some of the comments and i do understand where they are coming from I have to agree that a percentage of the bank and  level stakes  appears to be the best way forward. With this in mind I am going to put my money where my mouth is and start the new week with a bank of £200 with a bet of £5  on each selection at S.P.

2.00 Ayr

Kilbarchan

Coolagh Magic

Nina Petrovna

2.45 Ripon

Implicit

Mayson Mac

Moojim

3.20 Ripon

Midnight Malibu

Rosina

Machree

4.20 Ripon

Atkinson Grimshaw

Mutadaffeq

Sea Youmzain

4.40 Ayr

Racemaker

Sultan Baybars

Smugglers Creek

5.50 Windsor

Advanced Virgo

Midnight Mood

Epsom Secret

 

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Results for Monday 16/07/18

L W 9/4 W 6/4 W 11/8 W 3/1 W 3/1

Nearly a full house and prices were a bit weak but hey ho 5 winning bets from 6 is not to be sniffed at.

Stakes £90 Returns £80.62

Profit/Loss - £ 9.38

Bank c/f £190.62

Conclusion : Despite having 5 winners the S.P.'s were so poor that it negated any real profit and in fact resulted in a slight loss. Maybe early prices were the better option. That will be the plan tomorrow.

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Today's qualifying races and selections.......all early prices with Paddy

Beverley 2.30

Groundworker 3/1

Arnold 4/1

Etienne Gerard 5/1

Chelmsford 2.50

Althaaqib 3/1

Awalili 3/1

Mutanaasib 3/1

Thirsk 8.40

Cascella 9/4

Forever a Lady 100/30

Arabian Jazz 100/30

 

 

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13 hours ago, F.A.B. said:

Today's qualifying races and selections.......all early prices with Paddy

Beverley 2.30

Groundworker 3/1

Arnold 4/1

Etienne Gerard 5/1

Chelmsford 2.50

Althaaqib 3/1

Awalili 3/1

Mutanaasib 3/1

Thirsk 8.40

Cascella 9/4

Forever a Lady 100/30

Arabian Jazz 100/30

 

 

Results for Tuesday 17/07/18 W 9/2 L W 100/30 Stakes £45 returns £49.00 Profit/Loss + £4

Bank c/f £194.62

Edited by F.A.B.
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Qualifying races Wednesday 18/07/18

Uttoxeter 4.20

Ever So Much 100/30

Swingbridge 9/2

Zolfo 5/1

Killarney 5.25

Cache Queen 11/4

Eos 3/1

Power Drive 4/1

Fairyhouse 6.15

Coral Beach 2/1

Fulminate 11/4

Lord Rapscallion 9/2

Fairyhouse 6.45

Admirality 3/1

Zeeyalater 4/1

Pillar 6/1

Wolverhampton 8.35

Silver Character 9/4

Fitzsimmons 4/1

Refrain 11/2

Wolverhampton 9.05

Percy Prosecco 9/4

Lexington Empire 3/1

Javelin 7/1

 

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8 hours ago, F.A.B. said:

Qualifying races Wednesday 18/07/18

Uttoxeter 4.20

Ever So Much 100/30

Swingbridge 9/2

Zolfo 5/1

Killarney 5.25

Cache Queen 11/4

Eos 3/1

Power Drive 4/1

Fairyhouse 6.15

Coral Beach 2/1

Fulminate 11/4

Lord Rapscallion 9/2

Fairyhouse 6.45

Admirality 3/1

Zeeyalater 4/1

Pillar 6/1

Wolverhampton 8.35

Silver Character 9/4

Fitzsimmons 4/1

Refrain 11/2

Wolverhampton 9.05

Percy Prosecco 9/4

Lexington Empire 3/1

Javelin 7/1

 

Results for Wednesday 18/07/18 L W 11/4 (SP 5/2) W 11/4 W 3/1(SP 9/4) L W 7/2 Stakes £90 Returns £80 Profit/Loss  -£10 

Bank c/f £184.62 

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