BillyHills Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 As with the Jumps we are going to track the progress of the PL Tips on the top 10 'flat' only tracks. All prices are with bet365 this time just avoid any confusion. £10 win or £5 EW singles. The tracks will be monitored every couple of months to see if any are performing better than the ones we are using. We will kick off with the following: CatterickChesterMusselburghNewmarketThirskRedcarFfos LasSalisburyWindsorGoodwood Calendar for May: 3rd: Redcar, Musselburgh 4th: Musselburgh 5th: Goodwood, Newmarket, Thirsk 6th: Newmarket 7th: Windsor 9th: Chester 10th: Chester 11th: Chester 12th: Thirsk 14th: Catterick, Windsor 17th: Newmarket 18th: Newmarket 19th: Newmarket, Thirsk 21st: Redcar, Windsor 24th Catterick, Goodwood 25th: Goodwood 26th: Chester, Goodwood, Salsibury 28th: Redcar, Windsor 29th: Redcar gbettle and Decookie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decookie Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 nice work Billy and good luck to those who follow BillyHills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 46 minutes ago, Decookie said: and good luck to those who follow They may need it minhtri32132, Decookie and Jimmy2shoes 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decookie Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 lol , but gotta be in it , to win it i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baracca Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 On 4/25/2018 at 8:53 AM, BillyHills said: As with the Jumps we are going to track the progress of the PL Tips on the top 10 'flat' only tracks. All prices are with bet365 this time just avoid any confusion. £10 win or £5 EW singles. The tracks will be monitored every couple of months to see if any are performing better than the ones we are using. BH, what are your expectations for the flat tracks thread? Better profit than the jump tracks thread? Sry to ask this, but i dont know much about horse racing, but i have been following your tips and others for a couple of months. I dont know if its easier to choose the horses in a flat track or jump track, or if doesnt have difference! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 Hi mate, I think it all depends on the time of year to be honest. The jumps has tailed off quite a bit due to really bad ground and this has produced some very strange results. Its been the wettest Jan-Mar that I can remember. I have no doubt the selections are much more consistent when the going is not so volatile so therefore once the better weather arrives the results will pick up. We have already seen some improvement over the last week on the flat. This is why I wanted to start the flat in May, it has given us a couple of weeks to sort things out. We have to realise the bad weather has not just affected the going on the courses but it also has made it very difficult for some trainers to work the horses properly at home, this means their first run on the racecourse this season is badly needed for some (not all) but it does explain some below par performances for sure. To answer your main question, I am not sure how we will go on the Flat, there seems to be more meetings and hopefully we can do well. I am surprised that places like Windsor and Newmarket feature in the top 10, the races always seem to be very competitive to me. Anyway figures don't lie and we have done well there in the past. I'm hopeful that from June to September will be the most fruitful time to be betting on the flat and the handicaps should throw up some nice priced winners every now and again. Baracca, Decookie, gbettle and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCLARKE Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 From my analysis April 17 was the most profitable month with a ROI of 40%. The weather in this month was better than average. The next most profitable month has been July with a ROI of 16%. In fact all months show a positive return so hopefully we should be in for good returns all through the flat season. To support BH's comments about the going the best returns are on good to firm at 15%. So let's hope for some warm sunny weather ! gbettle, Decookie, BillyHills and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtc12 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Hopefully the Flat goes ok/good/excellent ?? for you BH. Just a general question, does anybody know in this day and age, when the flat season starts and finishes and vice versa for the jumps. I know they jump all through the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 Proper flat turf season starts at Doncaster in late March (24th this year) and ends on Nov 10th again at Doncaster. Jumps season officially starts May 4th until the Sandown meeting in late April (28th this year). AW season is late October (24th last year) until Good Friday Xtc12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 2, 2018 Author Share Posted May 2, 2018 Here we go, hold your breath! bet365 Redcar 210: Tarrzan 5/4 240: Pretty Baby 15/8 310: Mr Gent 9/2 340: Poets Prince 7/2 410: Al Khan 5/2 440: Champarisi EW 20/1 510: Dont Cry About It 3/1 Musselburgh 540: Dawoodi 6/1 610 Amadeus 4/6 640: Soldiers Minute 1/4 710: Artful Rogue 7/2 740: Carpet Time 9/4 810: Scotch Myst 3/1 840: Cosmic Tigress 7/1 Decookie, Bubbles180 and Baracca 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles180 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Im on Billy a single bet on each and an EW acca per meeting #LETSMASHTHEBOOKIES BillyHills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles180 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Good start billy Shame about Champarisi for the Acca Redcar 210: Tarrzan 5/4 Won 240: Pretty Baby 15/8 Won 310: Mr Gent 9/2 3rd 340: Poets Prince 7/2 2nd 410: Al Khan 5/2 Won 440: Champarisi EW 20/1 UP 510: Dont Cry About It 3/1 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Who opened their big mouth?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 3, 2018 Author Share Posted May 3, 2018 Update in morning, my iMac has died Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Results Stakes 140pts Returns 86.25pts Loss 53.75pts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Musselburgh 210 Deep Intrigue 5/4 240 Lydiate Lady 7/1 310 Arcadian Angel 9/2 340 Montague EW 10/1 410 Royal Cosmic 100/30 440 Royal Regent EW 9/1 510 Intiwin EW 10/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles180 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 18 hours ago, TimmyB said: Who opened their big mouth?! MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Decookie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Stakes 70pts Returns 25pts Total -98.75 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 4, 2018 Author Share Posted May 4, 2018 Goodwood, Newmarket copied from tips page until i get my PC back Anything over 8/1 is EW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom for Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) On 25/04/2018 at 8:53 AM, BillyHills said: As with the Jumps we are going to track the progress of the PL Tips on the top 10 'flat' only tracks. Hi I understand the concept of the top 10 tracks, separately for Jumps and Flat season. But how are the "PL Tips" selected for each race? p.s. I am not after trade secrets. What I am asking is: Are the Tips based on one super PL tipster, a committee of PL tipsters, ...... Edited May 5, 2018 by Kingdom for clarification of intent Decookie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 6 hours ago, Kingdom for said: Hi I understand the concept of the top 10 tracks, separately for Jumps and Flat season. But how are the "PL Tips" selected for each race? p.s. I am not after trade secrets. What I am asking is: Are the Tips based on one super PL tipster, a committee of PL tipsters, ...... The selections are from me only, no committee. Based on a method that calculates ratings for each horse. I prefer to try and take the emotion out of punting and leave it to the figures skylark2009 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Well what a rubbish start to the Flat season!! We did have a lot of big prices so maybe not so surprising. Just 2 NR's for a loss of 130pts Total so far = (228.75pts) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 Newmarket 150 Across The Stars EW 25/1 220 Elegant Pose 15/2 255 Mr Lupton 5/1 335 Happily 9/4 410 Barend Boy 5/2 445 Expressly 7/1 520 Dukhan 9/4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Well at least the results are consistent... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, TimmyB said: Well at least the results are consistent... Thanks for taking the time to post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 Another blank day -298.75pts Windsor 200: Desert Fox 7/2 235: Orpen Wide EW 9/1 305: All My Love 6/1 345: Hollywood Road EW 10/1 420: Tai Hang Dragon 6/1 455: Kassar 5/1 530: Silver Quartz 7/4 600: Spanish Star 6/1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyB Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, BillyHills said: Thanks for taking the time to post Have to say I feel a little guilty having come on board at the start of April, but I guess it happens. We go again tomorrow - I'll be at Beverley but watching for the Windsor results! Edited May 6, 2018 by TimmyB Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 6, 2018 Author Share Posted May 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, TimmyB said: Have to say I feel a little guilty having come on board at the start of April, but I guessing happens. We go again tomorrow - I'll be at Beverley but watching for the Windsor results! Have a good day, i've never been to Beverley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdom for Posted May 7, 2018 Share Posted May 7, 2018 On 05/05/2018 at 11:55 PM, BillyHills said: The selections are from me only, no committee. Based on a method that calculates ratings for each horse. I prefer to try and take the emotion out of punting and leave it to the figures Thx for the reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted May 7, 2018 Author Share Posted May 7, 2018 14 winners tipped today but unfortunately only one at Windsor!! We will keep on regardless, the luck will change Stakes 80pts Returns 58.50pts Total (320.25) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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