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StevieDay1983 Posted September 25, 2017 Author Share Posted September 25, 2017 This next round of Premier League fixtures marks the entry into October which is the point we see results start to settle. I've noticed a fair few of you starting to earn some profit now as we get a better idea of what each team is like. This weekend we see the epic encounter of Chelsea versus Manchester City. A few other tight fixtures. Not the easiest week to bet on so let's work together and try to bash those bookies! be an exciting one too. @sajtion, @discipline, @Pipoca, @the bastardian, @Mindfulness, @Sir Puntalot, @AndreBR, @mrclubbie, @neilovan, @allyhibs, @Judeksi, @Tiffy, @KikoCy, @Bett, @zemo91, @sm0kez, @Bronxie, @Duuc, @Dylan Lynch, @betcatalog, @vasilli07, @omch@, @the real slim shady, @Arkadi Manucharov, @Snoopdog, @allthethings, @JKos, @Pep004, @Torque, @AK1979, @Charon84, @dylanphan, @Kenton Schweppes, @The Sexless Innkeeper, @KingSoccertips, @seifer365, and @WinningAdvice, what are your tips for this round of matches? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewcalo Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) Two or three times a season the bookies jack up the odds because what's the point of betting if you don't win sweet fa when you do win? So they'll make it tasty to keep us keen. They want us to think we have a decent chance every so often. This happened last week with the likes of Spurs Man U Celtic and Chelsea all at 1.7 or so. This week it's back to normal. Don't be fooled by the odds on Liverpool or Everton. Newcastle have a good record against Liverpool and they have a tough match tomorrow night Champions League. Everton same - Burnley have a week between games. Everton don't. Burnley are workhorses. Edited September 25, 2017 by andrewcalo The Sexless Innkeeper and StevieDay1983 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKos Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 Submitted 4 out of 5 system plays West Ham -0,5 AH Manchester City SU 2 Burnley X2 Stoke-Southampton DRAW The one play I did not submit yet is the Newcastle-Liverpool ( Newcastle straight up or +0,75 AH for conservative) matchup. I will see how they play during midweek and see if they can beat Spartak Moscow.I will note down if I play this on Thursday Best of luck to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKos Posted September 25, 2017 Share Posted September 25, 2017 (edited) As the real slim shady correctly has pointed out mid week games will cause fatigue to most of these usual favorites. Chelsea also has a dog fight against Atletico on Wednesday night while Manchester City plays tommorow and will have an extra day of rest Edited September 25, 2017 by JKos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieDay1983 Posted September 28, 2017 Author Share Posted September 28, 2017 Anyone else getting on the Manchester United to win to nil bandwagon? Or will the midweek trip to Moscow sap their energy? andrewcalo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfulness Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 3 hours ago, StevieDay1983 said: Anyone else getting on the Manchester United to win to nil bandwagon? Or will the midweek trip to Moscow sap their energy? I can see the logic since Palace haven't scored a goal this season and lost all our matches + Man Utd one of the strongest teams in the league but surely Man Utd to win to nil @ 7/10 is uninspiring price, to me it does not look big value even though it's a rational and logical play. Can't really comment on Moscow game affecting win to nil outcome other than Man Utd seemed to comfortably win which is surely better for their condition than any other outcome from said game. Always have to look at injuries and absences before a new match anyway, I would say listen to manager's presser comments but you have to take Mourinho's words with a pinch of salt, look at banana gate in Europa League last year ffs. Palace have no recognizable centre-forward for Man Utd game but I don't think I need to tell you folks about the old 'no centre-forward repel theory' a theory which is both profound and far-reaching, some say dangerous. andrewcalo and JKos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorleywilliams Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Can Southampton win this weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewcalo Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 3 hours ago, dorleywilliams said: Can Southampton win this weekend? Can they? Some say yes. Others say no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pep004 Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Aguero out for Man City as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sajtion Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 man city and chelsea have both played in champions league. chelsea were able to beat the best defensive in europe, atletico madrid but remember pep guardiola's man city city play with three at the back so i am backing chelsea to win Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKos Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) 15 hours ago, StevieDay1983 said: Anyone else getting on the Manchester United to win to nil bandwagon? Or will the midweek trip to Moscow sap their energy? Crystal Palace haven't score it what seems in ages.Will they get the monkey off their back this week?Personally I am staying away from this game though the -2 AH for Manchester United is a system play of mine. Win to nil is probably one of the most reasonable plays in this matchup Edited September 29, 2017 by JKos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfulness Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) Stoke City V Southampton X @ 3.4 Bet365 A bit of a stick or twist game for these two teams. I feel neither will want to loose their last game before the international break - especially to a direct league competitor. I don't see much daylight between these two in general and both parties may find it difficult to claim all 3pts from this contest. Both sides have not been so ruthless and slightly toothless in recent games so I will go for X here. West Bromwich Albion V Watford X @ 3.25 Bet365 The ELO ratings are giving Watford nearly a full goal advantage but West Brom may prove too gritty and organised for Marco Silva's exuberant countering style to prove effective here. In my view we have another fixture involving direct league competitors and I think it will be more difficult for Watford than metrics suggest. West Brom have the tools and knowhow to disrupt but recent form has been shoddy so X seems to be the logical compromise in this situation. Edited September 29, 2017 by Mindfulness JKos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfulness Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 On a side note, @allthethings Do you have any stats regarding X in gameweeks directly before international breaks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorleywilliams Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, Mindfulness said: On a side note, @allthethings Do you have any stats regarding X in gameweeks directly before international breaks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorleywilliams Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 It's a very good question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malabgd Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 Manchester United v Crystal Palace Manchester United: Marouane Fellaini (5/1 m), Phil Jones (6/0 d), Anthony Martial (5/3 f, 2nd top scorer)(all doubtful), Michael Carrick (0/0 m), Paul Pogba (4/2 m), Zlatan Ibrahimovic (0/0 f), Marcos Rojo (0/0 d) Crystal Palace: Timothy Fosu-Mensah (6/0 d, on loan from Manchester United), Christian Benteke (6/0 f), Ruben Loftus-Cheek (4/0 m), James Tomkins (3/0 d), Wilfried Zaha (1/0 m), Connor Wickham (0/0 f) Stoke City v Southampton Stoke City: Kevin Wimmer (2/0 d), Geoff Cameron (4/0 d)(both doubtful), Bruno Martins Indi (5/0 d), Ryan Shawcross (3/0 d, captain), Jakob Haugaard (0/0 g), Julien Ngoy (0/0 f), Stephen Ireland (0/0 m) Southampton: Matt Targett (0/0 d) Daily updated injuries and suspensions information from more then 100 football leagues and competitions worldwide at: www.injuriesandsuspensions.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewcalo Posted September 29, 2017 Share Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) This is one of those game weeks - can you feel it? one of those weeks when reason and logic will get you nowhere. Hence big upsets and big effort by sides who should have been performing better all season and choose to shine late before the international break. I.E. Leicester, West Ham, Southampton, West Brom. Edited September 29, 2017 by andrewcalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betcatalog Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Big game, between two very strong teams with excellent performance, I expect open play with phases in front of the two heats, I will go with both teams score CHELSEA FC vs MANCHESTER CITY @@ Both team to score, odds 1.57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreBR Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 I found a weird stoke ml tempting .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic0024 Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Football Facts and Streaks regarding Premier League Man City are undefeated in their last 14 games in Premier League. Man Utd have kept a clean sheet in their last 4 home games against Crystal Palace in all competitions. You can find interesting 16 Football Betting Streaks for 30.09.2017 on this link ... http://eurofootballrumours.com/football-facts-streaks-30-09-2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilovan Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 EVerton under Koeman are just a joke. These are good players, playing badly, and it is down to the manager. Koeman, de Boer, van Gaal all poor managers (with incredible agents). Playing this negative Dutch, sideways, backwards, sterile possession that does not work any more. The Netherlands have been left behind (I am Dutch), and they look useless. United under van Gaal were borderline unwatchable. Palace under de Boer, pathetic ! Fine, Koeman says it is unrealistic for EVerton to challenge for top 4 or 5. No problem, I fully agree. But, and it's a BIG BUT, they should be beating the lesser teams in the league, and the lesser teams in the Europa league. I have watched them 4 times (all TV) this season. Against Man CIty they were useless. They held out for a draw, but 10 man City were unlucky, and ran them around. Against Atalanta in the Europa league they were demolished. Could have been 5-0 at half time. That 1st half performance was one of the worst I have seen from any team this year. At Chelsea they were soundly beaten in every department. OK fair enough. IMO CHelsea are a top team. Last Thurs in Europa (at odds of 3 to 10 ffs), they can't beat the Cypriot GIANTS. Concede a ridic 88th minute goal (against 10 men), and then miss a tee'd up chance from 6 foot (free header) in injury time. Now Everton are 7 to 10 to beat Burnley !. Seriously !!! Burnley who are undefeated away against Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham. And now Everton are expected to win ? Insane ! Burnley are 2.25 DOUBLE CHANCE (away win or Draw) Burnley to win is 6 (bet365) DrO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfulness Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Everton V Burnley Burnley +1 AH @ 1.714 Matchbook Fading Everton in this match seems to be public bet of the week and that always makes me feel uneasy but the metrics really do favour Burnley here. Everton are in poor form right now, they lack a playmaker who can make the game from midfield and drive the team forward. Gueye, Schneiderlin and Davies all have tremendous energy and industry but it's hard to call any of them a playmaker. Upfront they lack a ruthless goalscorer and have to rely on inconsistent match winners such as Rooney and Sigurdsson. Not only did Everton play on Thursday in Europa League, which is usually a drain, but they contrived to draw a game they should have won and now the Goodison faithful are starting to get lary. This does not bode well for the spirit level in home matches. As for Burnley, I've been impressed with them away from home this season, they're strong defensively and make quick transitions to hit the opposition on the counter. The ELO ratings also favour Burnley in this fixture with a half goal advantage and Sean Dyche's team is either ahead or level on a lot of other important metrics. To me it seems Burnley are just the kind of dogged and difficult opposition that Everton would rather not face at this momment in time. Everton have clear quality advantage in terms of personnel and their match winners can kill you from out of nowhere but I think Burnley on the +1 line offers a decent safety net given the circumstances which surround this match. Ultimately it's a difficult game to call, Everton have a clear quality advantage but it's hard to ignore Burnley on such a big line in these circumstances. Will be interested to see how this one plays out. Sir Puntalot and andrewcalo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilovan Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mindfulness said: Everton V Burnley Burnley +1 AH @ 1.714 Matchbook Fading Everton in this match seems to be public bet of the week and that always makes me feel uneasy but the metrics really do favour Burnley here. Everton are in poor form right now, they lack a playmaker who can make the game from midfield and drive the team forward. Gueye, Schneiderlin and Davies all have tremendous energy and industry but it's hard to call any of them a playmaker. Upfront they lack a ruthless goalscorer and have to rely on inconsistent match winners such as Rooney and Sigurdsson. Not only did Everton play on Thursday in Europa League, which is usually a drain, but they contrived to draw a game they should have won and now the Goodison faithful are starting to get lary. This does not bode well for the spirit level in home matches. As for Burnley, I've been impressed with them away from home this season, they're strong defensively and make quick transitions to hit the opposition on the counter. The ELO ratings also favour Burnley in this fixture with a half goal advantage and Sean Dyche's team is either ahead or level on a lot of other important metrics. To me it seems Burnley are just the kind of dogged and difficult opposition that Everton would rather not face at this momment in time. Everton have clear quality advantage in terms of personnel and their match winners can kill you from out of nowhere but I think Burnley on the +1 line offers a decent safety net given the circumstances which surround this match. Ultimately it's a difficult game to call, Everton have a clear quality advantage but it's hard to ignore Burnley on such a big line in these circumstances. Will be interested to see how this one plays out. Everton have a muppet for a manager, and that negates any quality advantage in players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfulness Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 15 minutes ago, neilovan said: Everton have a muppet for a manager, and that negates any quality advantage in players I don't agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilovan Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Mindfulness said: I don't agree with you. You or I could manage Everton and do a better job than Koeman Edited September 30, 2017 by neilovan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyhibs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 Tottenham have been better on the road this season with 3 wins from 3 so far, I expect that will be 4 from 4 after todays lunchtime game at Huddersfield. The Terriers made a great start to the season with 2 wins but have followed that with 3 draws and a defeat, they don't concede much at the back but they've not came up against a team with the quality of Spurs yet and with Harry Kane on fire at the moment I think this is just a matter of how many Spurs can score. The odds for the away win aren't really appealing to me so I ask, Can they beat a handicap? I say, Yes, they can. Tottenham -1 at 2.15 has a touch of value imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mindfulness Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 18 minutes ago, neilovan said: You or I could manage Everton and do a better job than Koeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allyhibs Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 38 minutes ago, neilovan said: You or I could manage Everton and do a better job than Koeman You couldn't. You're Dutch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fulton Posted September 30, 2017 Share Posted September 30, 2017 On 29/09/2017 at 3:01 AM, the real slim shady said: Can they? Some say yes. Others say no. Useful. Could the real shim shady please sit down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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