BillyHills Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 Good stuff mate, we welcome any discussions on the selections, I think its great that everyone can get hold of the data and interpret it how they see fit for their own style of betting, whether that be a price range, flat or jumps, AW racing, different courses etc...... As you know I am trialling the AW this month at SP, i know for a fact its showing a decent profit at early prices. Next month I may try something different. Thanks for the comments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dybala10 Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 hello friends Leopardstown 17.30 horse for today? BillyHills thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiggoBets Posted October 22, 2017 Share Posted October 22, 2017 1 hour ago, dybala10 said: hello friends Leopardstown 17.30 horse for today? BillyHills thx It's a charity race with 'celebrity' jockeys and ex jockeys, probably best to leave alone. dybala10 and BillyHills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Updated Course Stats (Aug 2016 - Oct 2017) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dybala10 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 hello Please i need one info... Can you please tell me date in october when lot of users have problems with page where tips are listed? i can remember when that was.... i remember that i didnt bet nothing on that day becouse of that... Just need for statistic reasons.... GREAT profit once again.... amazing.... you made 150 units i have produce 90 units so i look for reason why im so short. Maybe is problem that day when i didt bet. please for info Thx for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dybala10 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 13 minutes ago, dybala10 said: hello Please i need one info... Can you please tell me date in october when lot of users have problems with page where tips are listed? i can remember when that was.... i remember that i didnt bet nothing on that day becouse of that... Just need for statistic reasons.... GREAT profit once again.... amazing.... you made 150 units i have produce 90 units so i look for reason why im so short. Maybe is problem that day when i didt bet. please for info Thx for all ok i find it was 25.10. ... i look in statistic sheet and on that day was tiny loss so that is not a reason why i have less units won...some suggestion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenad986 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, dybala10 said: ok i find it was 25.10. ... i look in statistic sheet and on that day was tiny loss so that is not a reason why i have less units won...some suggestion? It is impossible to have the same profit, unless it is a seriously organized group that has a lot of accounts for all online bookmakers. I am following and this month I was at about 107 units of profit, but I played all the bets in one bet (bet365). For same profit, a seriously organization is needed, which can hardly be work of one man. Limit my account continuously and disable my game. Now I'm extinguished for a profit of about 1000 euros two days ago. I would most like to be placed in London and that I can play betting odds that they do not have records. With a really good organization, big money can be taken. Online story requires a much more difficult level of organization. I still hold on, but it's a lot of work. Because they simply do not want to take part of the pie, because this team behind the site is better and has better ratings than bookmakers. All in all, the game continues. Edited November 2, 2017 by nenad986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dybala10 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 5 hours ago, nenad986 said: It is impossible to have the same profit, unless it is a seriously organized group that has a lot of accounts for all online bookmakers. I am following and this month I was at about 107 units of profit, but I played all the bets in one bet (bet365). For same profit, a seriously organization is needed, which can hardly be work of one man. Limit my account continuously and disable my game. Now I'm extinguished for a profit of about 1000 euros two days ago. I would most like to be placed in London and that I can play betting odds that they do not have records. With a really good organization, big money can be taken. Online story requires a much more difficult level of organization. I still hold on, but it's a lot of work. Because they simply do not want to take part of the pie, because this team behind the site is better and has better ratings than bookmakers. All in all, the game continues. hello nenad, your name tell me that we maybe can speak in other language. where do you came from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 6 hours ago, nenad986 said: It is impossible to have the same profit, unless it is a seriously organized group that has a lot of accounts for all online bookmakers. I am following and this month I was at about 107 units of profit, but I played all the bets in one bet (bet365). For same profit, a seriously organization is needed, which can hardly be work of one man. Limit my account continuously and disable my game. Now I'm extinguished for a profit of about 1000 euros two days ago. I would most like to be placed in London and that I can play betting odds that they do not have records. With a really good organization, big money can be taken. Online story requires a much more difficult level of organization. I still hold on, but it's a lot of work. Because they simply do not want to take part of the pie, because this team behind the site is better and has better ratings than bookmakers. All in all, the game continues. Nenad, what country are you placing your bets in? Would Betfair seriously damage your profits? At least you could get the bets on. Glad to see your following anyway mate @Sir Puntalot nenad986 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenad986 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 The biggest problem is that I live in Belgrade, the capital of Serbia. In my country there are 15 bookmakers, but there are no horses racing (none want t play that), except occasionally when domestic horses race on a hippodrome. I have beting on several online bookmakers (bet365, WH, Betfair, etc.), but I am not able to open accounts in some of the UK bookmakers like PaddyPower, Coral and another couple that would be very meaningful. And the constant is limit my account, so I open up to other people. As far as Betfair Exchange is concerned, it is a very hard to trade in odds that come out when the types on the site get out (around 18:00). Mission Impossible. Markets are not full at that time, it is difficult to get those quotas and this is a huge loss of profit. I'm doing it, but it's a big deal. Also, one of Betfair's biggest faults is that there is no BOG (best odd gauranted) in the store, and it is normal becous you trading , not bet on bookies. I have a lot of friends outside of the country, so I've been getting information about some spanish large beting company Sportium in may interes the last couple of days and I threw my eye off a little to track their odds. There are them at every angle os Spain, and the interesting thing is that they throw out odds around 20-21 night befor racing day and that their odds are very close to bet365, and of course they are even more greasy and it is possible to take nice money if it is in Spain and pay ticket by bookmakers, not online. So it's impossible to get track of your profit. Somewhat to me, this is the direction in which I could potentially go. I also have a buddy in London, a serious banker, but for England I need visas and I am not able to come when I want and move so that I can potentially stack it there and go to High Street North. Maybe one day (i can come like turist anytime), but what this site does is phenomenal, I just hope that at least you are well organized in the United Kingdom and that you are seriously hunting bookies, otherwise it is not good to not get all potentional of all this knowledge you have. Ty for tips and shareing with us all. 1 hour ago, BillyHills said: Nenad, what country are you placing your bets in? Would Betfair seriously damage your profits? At least you could get the bets on. Glad to see your following anyway mate @Sir Puntalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dybala10 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 3 hours ago, dybala10 said: hello nenad, your name tell me that we maybe can speak in other language. where do you came from? pozdrav nenade how much you have your stake on one bet that bet365 limit your account? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenad986 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, dybala10 said: pozdrav nenade how much you have your stake on one bet that bet365 limit your account? Pozdrav dybala10, sta se radi? The last account that was shut out three days ago was the bets of 10 euros per horse on that account. I use more accounts and combine it, but it's easy to track and quickly flush if you see a profit. The last idea I've come up with is to divide the daily types into 5-6 accounts to look like a random game. To suggest that some accounts go in plus one month, others lose because everything is random. Of course there may be some spikes and quit account with muche profit on it it, but when the system is more reliable, one can play it on the same, all because of a rapid eye drop. They cut off the account that was about 1000e + profit. Bet365 have bilions on their servers, and cut small player account it is shame, but it is how it works. Of course I play a lot of things, but this is the main thing. I also play triple from the PL tips (single / duble / triple), then another triple from the other site (single / dubles / triples), I play 4-5 NAP at the daily level I read with a couple of sources (brings good profit), then i bet on sistem (10- 20 euros by day) where i am packing and set more important peaks of day basis (mostly trixi, yankee, somthim EW) then follow few tipster from PL (I'm testing less money for some time) and a few other sources of income. I am very persistent and determined, but I say that it is very difficult to fight with the bookmakers if you play alone, and especially if there is a bigger bet. Then you need to have ready 100 accounts in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dybala10 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Shout out? no stake limits first? in your opinion how much per bet is ok to stay under radar? pozdrav u beograd...delija ili grobar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenad986 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dybala10 said: Shout out? no stake limits first? in your opinion how much per bet is ok to stay under radar? pozdrav u beograd...delija ili grobar? Yes i get stake limits, but it is n biger odds 0.25 eur, and on favorit 2-3 euros. In my opinion to get under the radar i sprobably best ot have multi account and split bet, so will be hard to track random bets. Then prbably will not be problem to notice you fast if you use 5-6 account, becous that is random game of 6 diferent people. Under the radar on one account is probaly hard becus they have your statistic, and ofc they know what you doing. Try multiple account, and i am going in that direction in another few months. But playing on ground, not online bookies is still best and cant be track you. And for me this is more harder becus from Serbia i cant upload money on onine beting bokies from bank and i need to go over skrill. So i need for every account one more skrill, and it is realy hard work. The fucken idiots 2 years ago fcuk us, to stop money to go outside country on online beting site na dcasinos. On domestic booke you can play online. But if you have brain, they cant do nothing , but mre work. Even yu can upload to Skrill money for gambling, skrill ask you tha. But it can be sold with entropay virtual cart and then on Skrill. I dont have that problem becus my oney is out, but for somone from my place if read can be usefull. Grobar ofcours , and Partizan forever. Hahahhaha Edited November 2, 2017 by nenad986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Puntalot Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 English only on the forum please @nenad986 @dybala10 - Us English are embarrassed enough we speak only 1 language! @nenad986 - I'd delete the screenshot if I were you, you're giving hackers a helping hand otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenad986 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sir Puntalot said: English only on the forum please @nenad986 @dybala10 - Us English are embarrassed enough we speak only 1 language! @nenad986 - I'd delete the screenshot if I were you, you're giving hackers a helping hand otherwise. I am not good in gramar on any version of English, but US is bettar becous of tv shows, movies i watching all my life. But ok., from now i use only Irish slang. And i didnt sure what information from ss they can use. Nothing there they can use. Account is alredy withouth euros, i can give it them for free. Edited November 2, 2017 by nenad986 Sir Puntalot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiggoBets Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I've never had any of my gambling accounts limited/restricted before. Within 3 weeks of following PL tips I had my BetVictor BOG removed and then subsequently my stakes limited which was a shame as their odds were generally better than most. I currently use Skybet for the PL selections, but I wonder if it would be worth backing each selection at Betfair exchange SP, there always seems to be a big discrepancy between Bfsp and industry starting price, especially when the odds are around 10/1 or bigger. One of the tips at Wincanton on Sunday won at 10/1 yet the betfair starting price was 18. I rarely use the exchange though, I just don't like paying any sort of commission on winning bets tbh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenad986 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) 44 minutes ago, WiggoBets said: I've never had any of my gambling accounts limited/restricted before. Within 3 weeks of following PL tips I had my BetVictor BOG removed and then subsequently my stakes limited which was a shame as their odds were generally better than most. I currently use Skybet for the PL selections, but I wonder if it would be worth backing each selection at Betfair exchange SP, there always seems to be a big discrepancy between Bfsp and industry starting price, especially when the odds are around 10/1 or bigger. One of the tips at Wincanton on Sunday won at 10/1 yet the betfair starting price was 18. I rarely use the exchange though, I just don't like paying any sort of commission on winning bets tbh! I am doing last few day on Betfair too some bets, but will be nice if somone doing all pl tips on Betfair to explain how back it and what result it have on it. To back with sp on exchange is maybe good for high odds like you said alredy. I dont know, i usualy using bet365 and william hill bookies. And dreaming about paddypower becous many times they have best od for many race. One more thing, i alredy have limits on Betfair SB on horse racing and they limit me after few week of using it. It is total usless for mee too. Only exchange. Edited November 2, 2017 by nenad986 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baracca Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Hi everyone, im new here and i started to bet using your picks 3 days ago. Im from Brasil, so its not easy to open accounts and put money in lots of betting sites, so i use bet365 only. I read Nenad posts and i am really affraid of being limited when i have some profit. I am betting R$5 each single bet and 2,5 for e/w. Do u really think they might limit my account if i keep with this stakes and keep getting profit? Thanks for this tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nenad986 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 16 minutes ago, Baracca said: Hi everyone, im new here and i started to bet using your picks 3 days ago. Im from Brasil, so its not easy to open accounts and put money in lots of betting sites, so i use bet365 only. I read Nenad posts and i am really affraid of being limited when i have some profit. I am betting R$5 each single bet and 2,5 for e/w. Do u really think they might limit my account if i keep with this stakes and keep getting profit? Thanks for this tips. They will 100%, but maybe need some time to notice you. Best strategy for me is to open 5-6 account on your friends or family and to split tips on daily base. It will be 5-10 tips per account so they cant notice you, becous all will be random. Some account will go up some down, another month it can be change. Probably they will limit some account in one point if it go too much in profit, but then will be easy to replac that one account. I think this is best strategy to stay long time below the radar, except to bet in ground bookmaker shop, so they cant fallow you. I have same problem becous in my contry no beting on horse race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles180 Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 01/10/2017 at 12:39 PM, BillyHills said: I have some stats on all the courses for a full year, Aug 2016 - Aug 2017 Interesting reading: All of the AW tracks are showing a decent profit, the out and out AW courses that include, Dundalk, Chelmsford and Wolverhampton are doing well> Kempton, Southwell, Lingfield and Newcastle obviously include NH races as well as the AW. I have absolutely no idea why some tracks should be better than others, why Redcar is +1,300 and Notts is -700 is a mystery to me. Have you an update on these please Billy (to date) as very interesting can work some other systems from this not added Worcester or Tralle any reason, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 On 01/11/2017 at 10:27 PM, BillyHills said: Updated Course Stats (Aug 2016 - Oct 2017) @Bubbles180 Not sure whats happened to Worcester ? I'll check later Tralee closed down in 2008 by the way. Bubbles180 and Saint R 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Worcester is -81.60 from Aug 2016 - end of Oct 2017 204 races Bubbles180 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles180 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 On 10/11/2017 at 5:56 PM, BillyHills said: Worcester is -81.60 from Aug 2016 - end of Oct 2017 204 races I make it -81.60 Flat Profit 141 Losers 52 Winners 193 Runners 26.94% Strike Rate BillyHills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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