maxi Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) Not sure where to put this, ATR or here but as I like to follow slapdash I thought I would put it here to save me switching pages \ Although I trade mainly nowadays, what got me into trading was the original "dobbing" bets of backing then laying in play for half the SP to either double your money or lose it. A more riskier scenario is to back SP then lay @20% of the SP for x4 profit. ie: [email protected] then [email protected] in play to win 4 points. I have been paper trading a system since 24th may which has produced 69.2 profit, full stats: P+L 69.20 WON 54 LOST 136 R.O.I 136.42% S/R 28.42% S/R DAYS 55.74% Any decent software linked to excel could be used (gruss, MF, Cymatic, Bet Angel) or just simply trade the ladders. I personally use gruss for this as I am used to their codes. All selections below MUST BE 6.00 or greater, essentially because 1/5 of 6.00 for example is 1.20 so anything smaller is pointless. So, to recap Back at SP at 6.00 or greater to lay in running at 20% of price eg: back [email protected] lay [email protected] win$80 . Todays bets (must be over 6.00sp for records sake): 14:35 Stratford King Alfonso 16:35 Galway Western Boy 16:35 Galway Fergall 16:35 Galway Swamp Fox 17:20 Goodwood Yorkshiredebut 17:20 Goodwood Fethiye Boy Apologies for runners being in same race but it is extremely rare. Thanks. PS: I'll add a simple calculator spreadsheet as soon as I figure out how to attach one..lol. edit: I have uploaded a quick spreadsheet calculator. Just put your odds and stake in A2 and B2 and your required % in A5 and C2 and D2 should calculate price and stake required. You can change commission as required. Hope it helps . The other columns E2:L2 are just outcomes. There is a small macro to evaluate nearest betfair price. http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=21720887152431070049 results from yesterday 1 from 4 so: P+L 70.00 WON 55 LOST 139 R.O.I 136.08% S/R 28.35% S/R DAYS 56.45% Edited August 7, 2017 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 A slight error on the calculator, I was cannibilising from another one of my spreadsheets.It should work now. Apologies.New Link: http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=21720887152431070049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 3, 2017 Author Share Posted August 3, 2017 03/08/17 14:35 Stratford King Alfonso 6.62 4.6 L 16:35 Galway Western Boy 19.00 14.5 L 16:35 Galway Fergall 39.63 32.00 L 16:35 Galway Swamp Fox 12.5 1.12 W 3.8 17:20 Goodwood Yorkshiredebut 22.00 12.5 L 17:20 Goodwood Fethiye NR P+L 69.80 WON 56 LOST 143 R.O.I 135.08% S/R 28.14% S/R DAYS 55.56% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 4, 2017 Author Share Posted August 4, 2017 04/08/17 Scarlet Dragon GOO 1:50 Heroes Or Ghosts BAN 2:35 Zhui Feng GOO 3:00 Masham Star GOO 3:00 First Selection GOO 3:00 Take Cover GOO 3:35 Toe To Toe BAN 4:50 Stormey GAL 5:10 September Issue BAT 6:05 Moonmeister GAL 6:50 Heartstone BAT 8:10 Nuala Tagula MUS 8:50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) Scarlet Dragon GOO 1:50 6.78 2.5 LOST Heroes Or Ghosts BAN 2:35 6.00 5 LOST Zhui Feng GOO 3:00 16.19 7.4 LOST Masham Star GOO 3:00 17.02 3.5 LOST First Selection GOO 3:00 27.44 24 LOST Take Cover GOO 3:35 12.07 11 LOST Toe To Toe BAN 4:50 11.21 1.68 WON 3.8 Stormey GAL 5:10 20.16 3.3 WON 3.8 September Issue BAT 6:05 4.90 1.01 NB Moonmeister GAL 6:50 27.00 21 LOST Heartstone BAT 8:10 13.50 1.47 WON 3.8 Nuala Tagula MUS 8:50 3.65 1.25 NB From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L 4.20 WON 4.00 LOST 11.00 R.O.I 128.00% S/R 26.67% S/R DAYS 50.00% From 24thMay P+L 74.20 WON 59 LOST 150 R.O.I 135.50% S/R 28.23% S/R DAYS 56.25% Just missed out with Masham Star, needed 3.4...got 3.5. Rasheeq GOO 1:50 Arch Villain GOO 2:25 Jimmy Two Times GAL 3:05 Miningrocks THI 3:25 Mr Lupton DON 3:55 Throckley THI 4:00 Salateen NMK 4:25 Just Hiss DON 4:30 Loving Your Work LIN 6:15 Alpha Delphini HAM 7:30 Edited August 5, 2017 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 Just noticed the rules pertaining selections in unedited post so here we go: Rasheeq GOO 1:50 Arch Villain GOO 2:25 Jimmy Two Times GAL 3:05 Miningrocks THI 3:25 Mr Lupton DON 3:55 Throckley THI 4:00 Salateen NMK 4:25 Just Hiss DON 4:30 Loving Your Work LIN 6:15 Alpha Delphini HAM 7:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 5, 2017 Author Share Posted August 5, 2017 (edited) I'll use a bank of 500 points using a 1/100th of the bank compounding aggressively. As such, the stake will always be the highest stake achieved.So with +4.2pts achieved we stand at: BANK 521.00 P+L 21.00 NEXT STAKE 5.21 Edited August 5, 2017 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Rasheeq GOO 1:50 11.94 19 LOST -1 Arch Villain GOO 2:25 NR Jimmy Two Times GAL 3:05 31.16 30 LOST -1 Miningrocks THI 3:25 6.60 5.7 LOST -1 Mr Lupton DON 3:55 2.82 2.26 NB Throckley THI 4:00 16.87 11 LOST -1 Salateen NMK 4:25 4.30 1.25 NB Just Hiss DON 4:30 10.50 6.6 LOST -1 Loving Your Work LIN 6:15 7.43 4 LOST -1 Alpha Delphini HAM 7:30 3.06 1.3 NB From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -1.80 WON 4.00 LOST 17.00 R.O.I 91.43% S/R 19.05% S/R DAYS 33.33% BANK 489.74 P+L -10.26 NEXT STAKE 5.21 From 24thMay P+L 68.20 WON 59 LOST 156 R.O.I 131.72% S/R 27.44% S/R DAYS 55.38% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 (edited) redo post Edited August 6, 2017 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 6, 2017 Author Share Posted August 6, 2017 Breakable CHS 3:40 Tithonus GAL 3:55 Mr Lupton CHS 4:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 (edited) Breakable CHS 3:40 5.58 1.01 NB Tithonus GAL 3:55 9.13 6.2 LOST -1 Mr Lupton CHS 4:15 NR From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -2.80 WON 4.00 LOST 18.00 R.O.I 87.27% S/R 18.18% S/R DAYS 25.00% BANK 484.53 P+L -15.47 NEXT STAKE 5.21 From 24thMay P+L 67.20 WON 59 LOST 157 R.O.I 131.11% S/R 27.31% S/R DAYS 54.55% http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=21720887152431070049 Edited August 7, 2017 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 7, 2017 Author Share Posted August 7, 2017 07 aug Merry Banter RIP 5:15 Harome RIP 5:15 Tonis A Star CRL 5:30 Ripoll WDR 6:15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 (edited) Merry Banter RIP 5:15 12.50 3.2 LOST -1 Harome RIP 5:15 25.27 3 WON 3.8 Tonis A Star CRL 5:30 8.00 5 LOST -1 Ripoll WDR 6:15 4.55 2.02 NB From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -1.00 WON 5.00 LOST 20.00 R.O.I 96.00% S/R 20.00% S/R DAYS 40.00% BANK 493.91 P+L -6.09 NEXT STAKE 5.21 From 24thMay P+L 69.00 WON 60 LOST 159 R.O.I 131.51% S/R 27.40% S/R DAYS 55.22% http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=21720887152431070049 Edited August 8, 2017 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 8, 2017 Author Share Posted August 8, 2017 8/08/17 Mango Chutney CAT 4:15 Childesplay LEI 4:30 Curious Fox NOT 6:35 Heartstone CFD 7:20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 Mango Chutney CAT 4:15 3.50 2.88 NB Childesplay LEI 4:30 3.62 1.07 NB Curious Fox NOT 6:35 4.27 5.3 NB Heartstone CFD 7:20 30.35 20 LOST From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -2.00 WON 5.00 LOST 21.00 R.O.I 92.31% S/R 19.23% S/R DAYS 33.33% BANK 488.70 P+L -11.30 NEXT STAKE 5.21 From 24thMay P+L 68.00 WON 60 LOST 160 R.O.I 130.91% S/R 27.27% S/R DAYS 54.41% spreadsheet calculator http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=21720887152431070049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 9, 2017 Author Share Posted August 9, 2017 09/08/17 No bets were generated for today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 10, 2017 Author Share Posted August 10, 2017 10/08/17 spreadsheet calculator http://s000.tinyupload.com/index.php?file_id=21720887152431070049 Wiley Post BRI 2:30 Chickenfortea HAY 2:50 Southern Belle HAY 3:50 Iseemist HAY 3:50 Frank Bridge SAN 7:45 Whiteout LEO 7:50 Symbolic Star NCS 8:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 Wiley Post BRI 2:30 NR Chickenfortea HAY 2:50 7.20 5.2 LOST -1 Southern Belle HAY 3:50 14.27 8.2 LOST -1 Iseemist HAY 3:50 32.00 11.5 LOST -1 Frank Bridge SAN 7:45 3.62 3.05 NB Whiteout LEO 7:50 6.80 1.7 LOST -1 Symbolic Star NCS 8:00 11.48 8.2 LOST -1 From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -7.00 WON 5.00 LOST 26.00 R.O.I 77.42% S/R 16.13% S/R DAYS 28.57% BANK 462.65 P+L -37.35 NEXT STAKE 5.21 From 24thMay P+L 63.00 WON 60 LOST 165 R.O.I 128.00% S/R 26.67% S/R DAYS 53.62% Hitting a bad patch atm...well let's hope it is only a bad patch..lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 11, 2017 Author Share Posted August 11, 2017 11/08/17 Tawdeea MUS 4:00 Little Miss Kodi BRI 4:40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 12, 2017 Author Share Posted August 12, 2017 11/08/17 Tawdeea MUS 4:00 NR Little Miss Kodi BRI 4:40 NR 12/08/17 Pipers Note ASC 1:05 Euchen Glen ASC 1:40 Questo RED 2:40 Breakable ASC 2:50 Early Morning ASC 2:50 Nicholas T ASC 2:50 Just Hiss HAY 3:00 Lincoln Rocks HAY 3:35 Show Palace HAY 5:05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 Pipers Note ASC 1:05 8.60 7.6 LOST -1 Euchen Glen ASC 1:40 8.66 1.01 WON 3.8 Questo RED 2:40 14.00 2.22 WON 3.8 Breakable ASC 2:50 7.14 5.5 LOST -1 Early Morning ASC 2:50 8.67 6.4 LOST -1 Nicholas T ASC 2:50 7.89 3.15 LOST -1 Just Hiss HAY 3:00 8.85 9 LOST -1 Lincoln Rocks HAY 3:35 10.36 5.6 LOST -1 Show Palace HAY 5:05 6.00 1.01 WON 3.8 From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -1.60 WON 8.00 LOST 32.00 R.O.I 96.00% S/R 20.00% S/R DAYS 37.50% BANK 490.78 P+L -9.22 NEXT STAKE 5.21 From 24thMay P+L 68.40 WON 63 LOST 171 R.O.I 129.23% S/R 26.92% S/R DAYS 54.29% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 13, 2017 Author Share Posted August 13, 2017 13/08/17 Mr Lupton CUR 4:10 Wiley Post WDR 4:35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 13/08/17 Mr Lupton CUR 4:10 9.60 7 LOST -1 Wiley Post WDR 4:35 3.75 2.2 NB 14/08/17 Little Miss Kodi WOL 7:50 33.25 22 LOST -1 A Sure Welcome WOL 8:20 5.20 1.31 NB From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -3.60 WON 8.00 LOST 34.00 R.O.I 91.43% S/R 19.05% S/R DAYS 30.00% BANK 480.36 P+L -19.64 NEXT STAKE 5.21 Couldn't get yesterdays up in time..just as well.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 15, 2017 Author Share Posted August 15, 2017 15/08/17 Fastnet Spin FFO 2:15 Gracious John NOT 6:55 Masham Star CFD 7:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 Fastnet Spin FFO 2:15 3.15 1.25 NB Gracious John NOT 6:55 7.29 4 LOST -1 Masham Star CFD 7:10 6.40 1.31 LOST -1 From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -5.60 WON 8.00 LOST 37.00 R.O.I 87.56% S/R 17.78% S/R DAYS 27.27% BANK 464.73 P+L -35.27 NEXT STAKE 5.21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 16, 2017 Author Share Posted August 16, 2017 16/08/17 Fethiye Boy SAL 2:50 Knight Of Noir NAB 3:30 Quothquan SAL 4:20 Hurricane Hollow BEV 5:15 Itshard To No BAN 6:20 Lomis Law GOW 7:30 Callaghan KEM 9:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 17, 2017 Author Share Posted August 17, 2017 17/08/17 Danandy FON 3:00 Bobble Emerald FON 4:30 Prouts Pub FON 4:30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 (edited) 6/08/17 Fethiye Boy SAL 2:50 12.44 7.4 LOST -1 Knight Of Noir NAB 3:30 NR Quothquan SAL 4:20 NR Hurricane Hollow BEV 5:15 NR Itshard To No BAN 6:20 NR Lomis Law GOW 7:30 6.15 3 LOST -1 Callaghan KEM 9:10 50.00 50 LOST -1 17/08/17 Danandy FON 3:00 7.54 4 LOST -1 Bobble Emerald FON 4:30 7.00 3.35 LOST -1 Prouts Pub FON 4:30 13.21 12.5 LOST -1 From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -11.60 WON 8.00 LOST 42.00 R.O.I 76.80% S/R 16.00% S/R DAYS 23.08% BANK 438.68 P+L -61.32 NEXT STAKE 5.21 Well, the last few days of results means it's a long way back for quite some time. Let's hope for better days. Edited August 18, 2017 by maxi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 18, 2017 Author Share Posted August 18, 2017 18/08/17 Haqeeba DUN 3:40 Nuala Tagula CAT 7:40 Someone Exciting CAT 8:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxi Posted August 19, 2017 Author Share Posted August 19, 2017 Haqeeba DUN 3:40 NR Nuala Tagula CAT 7:40 6.00 5.7 LOST -1 Someone Exciting CAT 8:10 12.38 1.3 WON 3.8 From Start of Thread 3rd Aug P+L -8.80 WON 9.00 LOST 43.00 R.O.I 83.08% S/R 17.31% S/R DAYS 28.57% BANK 453.27 P+L -46.73 NEXT STAKE 5.21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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