Following the mon(k)ey.

[Pirate53]

Hi all,

Been a lurker and occasional poster on here for years but haven't actually contributed much so thought I'd share my latest system (if you want to call it one!). I have always been fascinated by, and looked to profit from, following the money with regard to early prices falling as money is piled on for one reason or another. The wisdom of crowds and  weight of money moving prices downward. Obviously the only way to profit from this is to take an early and hopefully higher price.

I'd been a subscriber to Oddsmonkey for years, did a few arbs but soon tired of the low returns for much effort! Then I thought how about using Oddsmonkey as a scanner to highlight falling prices? I set up filters for racing only, bookies that still wanted my custom, and an odds range of 4-34 (3/1 to 33/1). With oddschecker open and all bookies logged in I decided to scan for about 1 hour each morning, backing at the best price I could when an arb of 100% or higher appeared. Typically this would give me 20-30 bets each day. Stake is £2 win up to odds 21 or £1 ew over 21. Some bookies where I'm restricted involve 2 X £1 bets to make my 2 quid! I started this on 1st June and up to yesterday my original £100 bank stands at £159.74. Some days I miss if it's not convenient. Saturdays are a bit too manic so miss those.

Yesterday as an example I placed 21 bets, 4 winners +£27.00 or 13.5pts

Was going to attach spreadsheet but not possible it seems.

I'll keep you posted!

 

 

[BillyHills]

Good luck mate

[Sir Puntalot]

6 hours ago, Pirate53 said:

Hi all,

Been a lurker and occasional poster on here for years but haven't actually contributed much so thought I'd share my latest system (if you want to call it one!). I have always been fascinated by, and looked to profit from, following the money with regard to early prices falling as money is piled on for one reason or another. The wisdom of crowds and  weight of money moving prices downward. Obviously the only way to profit from this is to take an early and hopefully higher price.

I'd been a subscriber to Oddsmonkey for years, did a few arbs but soon tired of the low returns for much effort! Then I thought how about using Oddsmonkey as a scanner to highlight falling prices? I set up filters for racing only, bookies that still wanted my custom, and an odds range of 4-34 (3/1 to 33/1). With oddschecker open and all bookies logged in I decided to scan for about 1 hour each morning, backing at the best price I could when an arb of 100% or higher appeared. Typically this would give me 20-30 bets each day. Stake is £2 win up to odds 21 or £1 ew over 21. Some bookies where I'm restricted involve 2 X £1 bets to make my 2 quid! I started this on 1st June and up to yesterday my original £100 bank stands at £159.74. Some days I miss if it's not convenient. Saturdays are a bit too manic so miss those.

Yesterday as an example I placed 21 bets, 4 winners +£27.00 or 13.5pts

Was going to attach spreadsheet but not possible it seems.

I'll keep you posted!

 

 

 

 (back) to PL Pirate53.  

It's easier to use google docs for spreadsheets as it slows down the forum if too many big files are added.  

[Pirate53]

June 13th 21 bets, 4 wins +£6.00 +3pts. No post tomorrow as  flying back to UK. (Live part year in Corfu).

[Pirate53]

Newbury	13.30	Curiosity		1	5.00
Uttoxeter	18.25	Buble		1	8.50
Haydock	20.10	Jacbequick		1	15.00
Fontwell	16.05	Lee Side Lady		1	6.00
Newbury	17.20	Zephyros		1	15.00
Newbury	14.30	Unified		1	10.00
Haydock	19.05	Leeshan		1	6.50
Uttoxeter	17.55	Pearlita		1	5.50
Fontwell	16.40	Bouggie To Pieces		1	7.00
Newbury	16.15	Herm		1	12.00
Newbury	15.40	Tomahawk Kid		1	9.00
Fontwell	14.20	Changing The Guard		1	15.00
Uttoxeter	21.00	Solstice Twilight		1	21.00
Nottingham	14.45	Le Tissier		1	17.00
Newbury	16.15	Lawfilly		1	8.00
Fontwell	17.10	Captain George		1	4.50
Fontwell	13.50	Kublai		1	4.75
Nottingham	17.00	Patent		1	8.00
Fontwell	15.30	Fort Gabrial		1	5.00
Haydock	18.05	Suitor		1	13.00

 

Todays Selections and the prices obtained earlier. Warning, as the value is in the prices don't bet on these now!

20 bets, 2 winners -£17.00 -8.5pts.

Edited June 15, 2017 by Pirate53
Results added

[Pirate53]

Goodwood	20.15	Marzouq		1	4.33
Aintree	19.20	Buachaill Alainn		1	5.50
York	17.15	Peterhouse		1	7.00
York	14.55	Our Little Pony		1	6.00
Newton Abbot	16.30	Milan Heart		1	7.00
Sandown	14.35	Master Of Wine		1	13.00
Sandown	15.10	Endless Gold		1	6.00
York	16.40	Mark Hopkins		1	4.50
Sandown	16.50	Romanor		1	10.00
York	14.55	Laydee Victoria		1	21.00
Sandown	17.25	Chaparrachik		1	15.00
Aintree	20.25	Solar Impulse		1	15.00
Chepstow	19.00	Distant High		1	7.00
Chepstow	19.30	Sheer Intensity		1	5.50
Goodwood	18.35	Fiftyshadesofgrey		1	6.00
Sandown	15.45	Richie McCaw		1	5.00
Sandown	16.50	Lunar Jet		1	8.00
Goodwood	20.15	Ivegotthepower		1	10.00
Newton Abbot	17.00	Shows Over		1	4.33
York	14.55	Milton Road		1	6.00
Newton Abbot	17.30	Ragged Dream		1	13.00
Chepstow	19.00	Matravers		1	11.00
Sandown	14.00	Branscombe		1	10.00
Sandown	14.35	Font Vert		1	17.00
Chepstow	21.05	See and be Seen		1	7.50

Edited June 16, 2017 by Pirate53

[Pirate53]

Yesterdays results: 25 bets, 2 winners, -£8.00, -4pts.

[Pirate53]

Just a few today:

Doncaster	14.00	Sovereign Bounty		1	5.00
Salisbury	14.45	Super Julius		1	7.00
Salisbury	14.45	Waseem Faris		1	13.00
Doncaster	16.00	Wentworth Falls		1	5.00
Doncaster	16.00	Dougan		1	9.00
Salisbury	16.15	Luna Eclipse		1	4.00
Doncaster	16.30	Aelius		1	11.00
Salisbury	17.15	Brother In Arms		1	11.00

8 Bets, 0 wins, -£16.00, -8pts

Edited June 19, 2017 by Pirate53
Added results

[Snoopdog]

On 13/06/2017 at 1:07 PM, Pirate53 said:

With oddschecker open and all bookies logged in I decided to scan for about 1 hour each morning, backing at the best price I could when an arb of 100% or higher appeared.

Are you saying  "if there's some 10/1 out there, and 5/1 is general; then it's a bet at 10/1"?

Any laying back on these bets, or just hold and hope for a win?

If an immediate arb from backing to laying showed, I expect it would last seconds.

I think you are saying back at 10/1 and hope to lay back (or always lay back, even with small loss) close to racetime. Please confirm.

Sorry if I sound a bit thick!

Good luck, I love systems (on the stock-market too)!

[Pirate53]

Hi Snoop,

Yes, your first statement is what I'm saying. Simply placing a back bet on a horse that has been highlighted as value by being flagged as an arb. I don't arb or lay back later.

You're also correct in saying that some are only there for seconds. I probably miss as many as I find! The best ones are the ones that show up several times through the scanning period at progressively lower odds. While paper trading this last month I had several winners over 20 (1 at 34) that actually started in single figs. One 33/1 shot went off at 4/1! (Didn't win though!)

Nice to see someone following.

Cheers!

[Snoopdog]

18 minutes ago, Pirate53 said:

One 33/1 shot went off at 4/1! (Didn't win though!)

My old dad (northern shop and greyhound bookie) used to say: "Even when you make a mistake, they still have to win."

If I'd backed at 33/1, I wouldn't be able to resist laying back (at least stake recovery) at 4/1.

Good luck with it.

[Pirate53]

Todays Selections:

Wetherby	17.15	Ambitious Icarus		1	11.00
Wetherby	15.15	Bollihope		1	5.00
Nottingham	18.30	Dyllan		1	4.00
Wetherby	16.45	Fairy Lock		1	8.50
Carlisle	17.00	Royal Cosmic		1	8.50
Wetherby	15.45	Lozah		1	13.00
Wetherby	17.15	Decadent Times		1	13.00
Wetherby	14.45	Tor		1	7.50
Carlisle	16.00	African Blessing		1	8.00
Carlisle	15.30	Competition		1	34.00
Wetherby	14.15	Barford		1	17.00
Wetherby	17.50	Lady Joanna Vassa		1	5.50
Nottingham	18.30	Sir Dudley		1	17.00
Carlisle	16.30	Miss Sheriden		1	6.50
Carlisle	17.00	Knightsbridge Liam		1	13.00
Windsor	20.45	Sandy Shores		1	6.50
Wetherby	16.15	Danot		1	13.00
Wetherby	16.45	Kelpie Spirit		1	8.00
Windsor	18.45	Shovel It On		1	4.50
Wetherby	15.15	Scottish Summit		1	9.00
Wetherby	14.15	Kingfast		1	26.00
Nottingham	20.00	Toms Anna		1	19.00
Wetherby	14.45	Daveys Dilemma		1	10.00
Carlisle	15.00	Danish Duke		1	34.00
Wetherby	15.45	Beatbybeatbybeat		1	15.00
Windsor	19.45	Fit For The Job		1	8.00
Windsor	19.45	Ogbourne Downs		1	7.50
Nottingham	18.00	Lexington Grace		1	6.00

Edited June 20, 2017 by Pirate53

[Pirate53]

Yesterday: 28 bets, 3 wins, 2 NR's -£5.00  -2.5pts

None today, gone to the zoo!

[Pirate53]

Todays Sels, ignoring most of Royal Ascot.

Chelmsford	18.10	Uther Pendragon		1	13.00
Hamilton	17.10	Bonnie Gals		1	6.50
Ripon	19.50	Pernickety		1	8.00
Chelmsford	21.10	Misu Pete		1	7.00
Uttoxeter	16.45	Craig Star		1	9.00
Uttoxeter	16.45	Get Home Now		1	7.00
Hamilton	17.10	Bling King		1	6.00
Ripon	21.20	Yorkshire Pudding		1	11.00
Chelmsford	18.40	Classic Villager		1	10.00
Chelmsford	19.10	Jordan Sport		1	9.00
Ripon	20.20	Jack Flash		1	4.00
Chelmsford	19.40	Jelly Monger		1	6.50
Ripon	18.50	Carlovian		1	7.50
Chelmsford	20.10	Mazzini		1	4.00
Ascot	17.35	Gymnaste		1	8.00
Uttoxeter	14.55	Taras Rainbow		1	12.00
Chelmsford	20.40	Summerghand		1	7.50

Results: 17 Bets, 2 wins, 1 NR, -£3.00 -1.5pts. Quite a few 2nds today.

Edited June 22, 2017 by Pirate53
Result added

[Pirate53]

When I looked at Royal Ascot selections, most were false arbs, i.e. only an arb because one bookie (usually Betbright!) had pushed the price out. Hard to weed these out but they shouldn't count because no money is pressuring the price.

[Pirate53]

None today, docs appointment!

[Pirate53]

Todays Selections. Only 1 from Ascot.

Bath	17.40	Eben Dubai		1	26.00
Bath	20.25	Air Ministry		1	12.00
Ayr	20.10	Explain		1	13.00
Market Rasen	14.10	Kristal Star		1	11.50
Newmarket	20.00	Island Vision		1	19.00
Ayr	20.45	Mutadaffeq		1	5.00
Ayr	18.30	Teds Brother		1	12.00
Ayr	21.15	Dark Profit		1	11.00
Redcar	14.55	Island Flame		1	6.50
Market Rasen	15.55	Jovial Joey		1	4.50
Redcar	17.20	By The Law		1	11.25
Ascot	17.35	Sixties Groove		1	7.50
Newmarket	19.30	Claires Secret		1	26.00
Ayr	19.40	Lamloom		1	5.50
Ayr	20.10	Glengarry		1	8.00
Newmarket	20.35	Zack Mayo		1	15.00
Redcar	16.45	Nonno Julio		1	6.50
Newmarket	18.20	Paddy A		1	13.00
Newmarket	17.50	Pacific Salt		1	11.00
Newmarket	19.30	Garducci		1	9.00

3 wins, 1 NR, +£1.62, +0.8pts

Edited June 26, 2017 by Pirate53
Result added

[Pirate53]

Todays Sels:

Wolverhampton	17.45	Einstein		1	23.00
Windsor	18.20	Tesko Fella		1	21.00
Wolverhampton	14.45	Lawless Louie		1	6.50
Chepstow	17.00	Top Me Up		1	6.00
Southwell	21.10	Dun Scath		1	12.00
Windsor	20.50	Bombay Dream		1	8.50
Windsor	20.20	Wefait		1	15.00
Wolverhampton	16.15	Viola Park		1	5.00
Wolverhampton	17.45	Hernando Torres		1	9.00
Southwell	20.10	Owners Day		1	15.00
Wolverhampton	15.15	Midnight Blue		1	17.00
Chepstow	14.00	Pinnata		1	29.00
Wolverhampton	15.15	Arty But Poor		1	19.00
Windsor	20.50	Mercers		1	7.50
Windsor	20.20	Ingleby Mackenzie		1	26.00
Southwell	20.10	Clemency		1	13.00
Windsor	19.50	Lightening Dance		1	5.00

17 bets, 4 wins, +£62.88, +31.45pts.

Edited June 26, 2017 by Pirate53
Added results

[Pirate53]

Todays Sels: Beverley	15.00	Lean On Pete		1	7.00
Leicester	20.10	Channel Packet		1	9.00
Leicester	20.10	Duchess Of Fife		1	15.00
Beverley	17.30	Dapper Man		1	8.00
Newton Abbot	20.00	Scorpion Star		1	12.00
Leicester	21.15	Bellevarde		1	4.40
Brighton	16.45	Provoking		1	11.00
Leicester	20.45	Rock Palm		1	21.00
Brighton	15.45	Secret Strategy		1	7.00
Newton Abbot	20.35	Sizing Sahara		1	7.50
Brighton	14.45	Altiko Tommy		1	10.00
Beverley	17.30	See Vermont		1	17.00
Beverley	15.30	Torremar		1	8.00
Brighton	16.45	Sabato		1	34.00
Brighton	15.45	Otomo		1	6.50
Beverley	15.00	Tred Softly		1	7.50
Leicester	19.40	Indian Chief		1	9.00
Leicester	18.40	Rhosneigr		1	8.00
Beverley	16.00	Tewafeedj		1	12.00
Newton Abbot	20.00	Bistouri Dhonore		1	7.00
Beverley	14.30	Yorkee Mo Sabee		1	5.20
Newton Abbot	20.00	Tricky		1	5.00

Edited June 27, 2017 by Pirate53

[Pirate53]

Results: 22 bets, 2 wins, 2 NR's -£9.82, -4.9pts

[Pirate53]

None today, travelling back to Greece.

[Pirate53]

Todays Sels:

Newbury	20.30	Born To Finish		1	12.00
Newcastle	17.55	Black Salt		1	6.00
Hamilton	20.40	Casterbridge		1	5.50
Nottingham	16.00	Teqaany		1	5.50
Newmarket	16.25	Twin Appeal		1	7.50
Newbury	18.20	Show Of Force		1	34.00
Hamilton	20.10	Duck Egg Blue		1	26.00
Newbury	20.30	Swanton Blue		1	13.00
Newcastle	17.20	Accession		1	9.00
Newmarket	17.00	Rigoletto		1	5.50
Newmarket	14.10	Roland Rocks		1	7.00
Newbury	21.00	Camakasi		1	12.00
Hamilton	20.10	Miss Van Gogh		1	5.50
Newcastle	16.15	Symbolic Star		1	8.50
Newcastle	17.55	Cupids Arrow		1	10.00
Newbury	20.00	Challow		1	15.00
Newmarket	15.15	Lady In Question		1	7.00
Newmarket	14.40	Sufi		1	12.00
Newbury	19.25	Buzz		1	11.00
Newcastle	15.40	Briardale		1	5.50
Newbury	18.50	Sunday Best		1	34.00
Nottingham	16.00	Iron Islands		1	12.00
Newmarket	17.00	Rebel De Lope		1	6.00
Hamilton	18.30	Arch Gold		1	5.00
Nottingham	16.35	Zapper Cass		1	17.00

[Pirate53]

25 bets, 4 wins, 1 NR, +£18.20, +9.1 pts

[Pirate53]

Todays Sels:

Newcastle	21.10	Quiet Warrior		1	10.00
Newcastle	18.30	Lady Cristal		1	15.00
Newcastle	18.00	Kodiac Khan		1	11.00
Cartmel	15.50	Volcanic Jack		1	29.00
Cartmel	17.20	Mash Potato		1	13.00
Yarmouth	15.10	Toronto Sound		1	11.00
Newcastle	19.00	Rasheeq		1	8.00
Doncaster	16.00	Great White Shark		1	8.00
Chester	20.50	Je Suis Charlie		1	12.00
Newcastle	18.30	Intense Romance		1	6.00
Chester	19.45	Favourite Treat		1	26.00
Chester	20.15	Godwilling		1	6.25
Newmarket	17.50	Balgair		1	8.00
Chester	18.10	Right Action		1	4.50
Doncaster	17.00	Tagur		1	8.00
Cartmel	17.20	Absolute		1	13.00
Chester	19.45	Lat Hawill		1	8.00
Doncaster	15.00	False ID		1	8.50
Newcastle	18.00	Inaam		1	5.00
Yarmouth	14.40	Pernickety		1	10.00
Cartmel	16.20	Tommy O'Dwyer		1	7.00
Newcastle	20.40	Tamih		1	4.00
Yarmouth	16.40	Magic Mirror		1	7.00
Newcastle	19.35	Conkering Hero		1	7.00
Newcastle	19.00	Hoofalong		1	21.00
Doncaster	16.30	Fire Jet		1	5.60
Yarmouth	14.10	Alba Power		1	10.00
Newcastle	21.10	Yarmouk		1	15.00

[Pirate53]

Todays results: 27 bets, 4 Nrs, 4 wins, + £32.74, + 16.37 pts

June Result: 391 bets, 25 NR's, 59 wins, + £131.36, + 65.68 pts.

June total betting days 19/30.

Edited July 1, 2017 by Pirate53
Detail added

[Pirate53]

Todays Selections: Decided to try a Saturday!

Chester	16.35	Rosalee		1	11.00
Lingfield	20.40	Glacier Point		1	8.50
Chester	14.55	Lualina		1	4.00
Windsor	14.45	Kings Academy		1	8.50
Lingfield	19.40	Gulland Rock		1	6.50
Chester	17.10	Royal Flag		1	5.00
Newcastle	15.00	Velvet Revolution		1	17.00
Lingfield	18.10	Josh The Plod		1	6.00
York	16.50	Black Grass		1	17.00
Newcastle	15.00	October Storm		1	6.60
York	13.55	Mr. Greenlight		1	21.00
York	15.35	Instant Attraction		1	8.00
Doncaster	17.55	Ower Fly		1	6.00
Doncaster	20.25	Sepal		1	15.00
Chester	16.00	Cotinga		1	4.50
Chester	14.20	Awesome Allan		1	10.00
Windsor	17.35	Oeil De Tigre		1	6.00
Lingfield	20.40	Fabulous Flyer		1	13.00
Lingfield	18.40	Famous Dynasty		1	17.00
Windsor	17.35	Black Caeser		1	5.00
Lingfield	18.40	Star Maker		1	7.50
Lingfield	19.40	Never You Mind		1	10.00
Newmarket	16.55	Road To Dubai		1	4.50
Lingfield	19.40	Tennessee Rose		1	10.25

Bets 24, Wins 2, NR 1, -£23.00, -11.5pts.

No more Saturdays!!

 

Edited July 2, 2017 by Pirate53
Results added

[Pirate53]

Todays Sels:

Cartmel	17.35	Back To Balloo		1	4.00
Cartmel	14.20	Rock N Stones		1	6.50
Cartmel	17.00	Tuscan Gold		1	6.50
Cartmel	14.20	Pads		1	7.20
Uttoxeter	15.30	Aerlite Supreme		1	21.00
Windsor	15.10	Mark Of Excellence		1	7.00
Uttoxeter	14.00	Monar Lad		1	13.00
Windsor	16.45	Tomily		1	8.00
Windsor	14.40	Count Calabash		1	6.75
Cartmel	17.35	Mighty Whitey		1	29.00
Windsor	16.45	Tahoo		1	6.00
Uttoxeter	15.30	Join The Clan		1	26.00
Uttoxeter	15.30	Berea Boru		1	19.00
Cartmel	15.20	Presenting Junior		1	7.00
Uttoxeter	15.30	Optimistic Bias		1	11.00
Cartmel	15.20	Bafana Choice		1	20.00
Uttoxeter	17.10	Alexander The Grey		1	15.00
Windsor	17.20	Cordite		1	11.00
Windsor	15.40	Donncha		1	7.50
Uttoxeter	16.05	Rossetti		1	4.00
Cartmel	15.20	Heart O'Annandale		1	15.00
Windsor	14.10	Nobly Born		1	5.60
Windsor	16.15	Dark Shot		1	4.50

Edited July 2, 2017 by Pirate53

[Pirate53]

Sunday Result: 23 Bets, 3 wins, + £15.60, + 7.8 pts. Thank you Mighty Whitey in the last!!

[Pirate53]

Todays Sels:

Hamilton	21.15	Fleetfoot Jack		1	9.50
Wolverhampton	15.45	Winston C		1	4.00
Hamilton	21.15	Fortuities		1	6.25
Pontefract	14.00	Oriental Splendour		1	7.00
Pontefract	16.00	Acadian Angel		1	5.50
Wolverhampton	17.15	Sakhalin Star		1	17.00
Pontefract	14.30	Zap		1	4.33
Pontefract	17.00	Bit Of A Quirke		1	5.00
Hamilton	19.15	Astrophysics		1	7.50
Hamilton	20.45	Set In Stone		1	6.00
Wolverhampton	16.15	Rouge Nuage		1	5.00
Pontefract	16.30	Hitman		1	17.00

[Pirate53]

Yesterdays Result: 12 Bets, 1 win, 1 NR, -£14.00, -7 pts.

Todays Sels:

Stratford	18.20	Treasure The Ridge		1	9.00
Hamilton	15.00	Broadway Dreams		1	34.00
Stratford	19.50	Overtoyoujay		1	7.50
Brighton	16.15	Fair Power		1	9.00
Chepstow	20.40	Ya Jameel		1	5.50
Chepstow	19.40	See The Master		1	4.50
Hamilton	17.30	La Haule Lady		1	12.00
Chepstow	21.10	Moojaned		1	26.00
Stratford	20.50	All The Hunter		1	27.50
Hamilton	14.00	Up Sticks And Go		1	4.50
Brighton	15.45	Buzz Lightyere		1	5.00
Hamilton	15.30	Alexanderkollontai		1	29.00
Stratford	20.50	Handy Hollow		1	7.50
Brighton	15.45	Dove Mountain		1	7.00
Hamilton	15.30	Masham Star		1	11.00
Chepstow	21.10	Tyrell		1	7.00
Hamilton	16.30	Zapper Cass		1	6.50