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For the sake of argument lets agree that any bet that requires more than one thing to occur is an accumulator.

Some bookies offer a bet that requires two things to happen in the one game for you to win but this is a special offer and in effect is a double (accumulator).

I am firmly of the opinion that in the long run you will make more money betting singles versus accumulators but I don't bet enough to have a really statistically relevant sample size (there are very few people who do).

If you were to try to convince someone that they could actually make a profit long term by sports betting and the two most important changes that they would have to make would be to bet singles only and use good bankroll management how would you go about trying to convince them to switch away from their weekly 5 fold accumulator.

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On 2 February 2016 at 18:20:28, Charity10k said:

For the sake of argument lets agree that any bet that requires more than one thing to occur is an accumulator.

Some bookies offer a bet that requires two things to happen in the one game for you to win but this is a special offer and in effect is a double (accumulator).

I am firmly of the opinion that in the long run you will make more money betting singles versus accumulators but I don't bet enough to have a really statistically relevant sample size (there are very few people who do).

If you were to try to convince someone that they could actually make a profit long term by sports betting and the two most important changes that they would have to make would be to bet singles only and use good bankroll management how would you go about trying to convince them to switch away from their weekly 5 fold accumulator.

 

Hi,

In fact people who bet singles lose more money than people who bet accumulators.:eek

 

 Betting singles is utterly utterly TEDIOUS. This is especially so when betting tiny amounts of money as most bettors do.

Thus betting singles actually leads people to bet on other non value bets just for interest.

Also,the overwhelming majority of bettors lose whether they bet singles or not.

But crucially when singles bettors go on a long losing run (as they nearly all do eventually)powerful psychological factors come into play which cause many of them to increase their stakes and chase.

This is disastrous enough but yet others actually become addicted.If not to sports betting then to other gambling outlets due to the fact that singles bets aren't enough to satisfy them.

 

By contrast,the kind of person who sticks a tenner on the 5 or more selections that you denigrate knows that most of the time he will lose.

Thus when he loses he feels no real desire to increase his stake the following week.

Moreover,he gets enough thrill from the anticipation of his bet to satisfy his need to gamble for a whole week much of the time.

 

 

Eventually of course  most singles bettors get so bored that they start doing doubles then trebles and then full blown accas.

 

 

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by moggis

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You are saying people lose more money on singles because they lack discipline and a proper bankroll management strategy.

Those are two separate issues, both of which need to be mastered to be profitable long term.

If you don't have discipline and proper bankroll management you will lose no matter if you bet singles or accumulators.

What you have described above is basically a textbook compulsive gambler who should seek help from GambleAware.co.uk

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On 29 February 2016 at 18:54:44, Charity10k said:

You are saying people lose more money on singles because they lack discipline and a proper bankroll management strategy.

Those are two separate issues, both of which need to be mastered to be profitable long term.

If you don't have discipline and proper bankroll management you will lose no matter if you bet singles or accumulators.

What you have described above is basically a textbook compulsive gambler who should seek help from GambleAware.co.uk

I completely disagree.

What I've described is most gamblers.

As I said before betting only on singles is very very tedious.

But that wouldn't matter so much if it were relatively easy to make reasonable profits from betting singles on soccer.

But it isn't.

Dont take my word for that.I have seen mods on this very forum say that it's hard.

Do you think they lack discipline?

Because I didn't get that impression.

 

I don't like people who bet accumulators being in any way denigrated.

Especially when most singles bettors end up losing more money than the average acca bettor.

 

Its all very well for people to mention discipline but what exactly do they mean by that?

 

What they mean by discipline is never ever ever placing any bets that you don't think are value.

BUT what these people just don't get is that even if you do that you will eventually go on a long losing run!!!

 

And the $64,000 question is what do they do then!?

 

What good is all the discipline in the world when you've just endured 26 losses out of your last 30 bets?

 

At what point should you stop betting?

 

At what point should you realise that you either never had an edge or no longer have an edge?

 

At what point should you realise that you have no talent?

 

No amount of discipline will ever help anyone answer those questions.

 

Yet it's those dilemmas that lead singles bettors to lose money hand over fist.

 

Acca bettors dont need to know the answers by contrast because they are betting for the sheer entertainment of it.

 

Which by the way is far and away the best reason to bet!

 

 

Cheers

 

 

 

 

Edited by moggis

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in my own point of view, betting singles is the safest but and require more money unlike accumulator.

Betting with accumulator is also risky, we all know if one game loss, the own game is also a loss.

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I like moggis' point that weekly acca punters are betting for fun and don't care too much if they lose. And I think he's right to point out they probably won't chase losses, especially from a 'losing run' that can affect anyone. Although I'm not convinced betting weekly accas is the best way of dealing with the losing run dilemma.

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Just been thinking a bit more about 'losing runs' … this is one way I deal with them.

I try to keep to level stakes in my betting. Let's say I bet £10 per bet. If I go on a good run and get greedy for more, I might increase the stakes. If I have a losing run, I get upset and might also increase the stakes to try to get back what I lost.

But I've found the most effective way of dealing with the effect of losing runs is to REDUCE the stakes. For example, if I have a losing run while betting £10 per bet, I might reduce the stake to, say, £5. Or even £2 or £1.

One effect I've noticed …

When I get greedy or chase and increase the stakes, my performance gets worse - I tend to lose.

When I reduce the stakes, my performance gets better - I tend to win.

It happens almost every time.

I think it's because when I reduce the stake, I cut the emotion and am more focussed on finding those good 'value bets' :ok

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Online bokmakers are very happy :) to have many customers willing to invest their money in combo bets hoping to win more money quicker, because the chances of winning an accumulator bet decreases with each match added to the online betting slip. 

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I have made a lot more withdraws from single bets winning than multiples, why do you think the bookies promote multiples so much, it's easy money for them. 
Say I wanted to win £150, I would much prefer to put £75 on one even money selection I was confident in than chosing 4 even money selections in a multiple and placing a £10 bet. I know one of these 4 will mess up, I prefer my own odds on going for the 1 I have most confidence in and getting the job done. You could place 100 4 fold multiples and get unlucky with 1 letting you down in all, that's less likely with singles. 

Multiples are worth £1 for a bit of fun to win big, a bit like the lottery, and place serious bets on singles.

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