cornelinho Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Dinamo (Z) has a good record in EL qualifications, last seven years they are playing group stage in EL or even CL. That is some expirience, on the other hand - Petrolul is a "new club", which was in second Romanian league until a couple of seasons ago. Dinamo did good in the away leg on most of those fixtures. Dumitru Mitu (ex-Dinamo Romanian) stated that A. Mutu is not leaving Petrolul, so that rumor was untrue. However, I don't see 2.20 as a valuable price on Petrolul. I am a fan of Hagi, I am over 30 year sold and I see that MAN playing live. I know Mutu also. He has been a much bigger talent than Hagi! Mutu has been our best player ever, but he did not have the intelligence of Hagi, the respect for football, etc. Check the stats for that. Dinamo Zagreb never had a plyer like him. He can win a match by himself and he has played brilliantly this year, With Tamuz, Albin, etc Petrolul should have been 1.75 here. Lucescu got the quarter finals of this Cup with Rapid few years ago and trained Romania and some foreign clubs. You cannot say that about Zagreb coach. Besides, Zagreb was beaten by Steaua very well many years ago, something like AaB in Champions League, Jean Vladoiu scorer among the others, so Zagreb is not having great record with Romanian sides either. Petrolul has a huge crowd, after Steaua they have the craziest fans! Enjoy the match, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H1 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > Thursday August 21st Metalist Kharkiv to beat Ruch Chorzow @1.9 There are a few points that made me decide to put high stakes in the Ukrainian side: - market value of the teams - Metalist Kharkiv id worth 10 times more (70m) than Ruch (7m) - current form of the hosts - they have not won a single football match in the league this season. Interestingly, in EL qualifiers they managed only 1 win, and yet they progressed to the 4th qualifying round, beating FC Vaduz and Esbjerg. Metalist lost the last two games, but they had Shakther Dontesk and Dinamo Kiev as opponents, so teams far better than their next EL rivals - venue - Ruch does not play on its own ground (poor condition of the pitch after summer adjustments) and the game will be held in Gliwice instead - not far away, but still that's not the home ground for the hosts - approach: Metalist will be motivated to get to the group stages (last year they beat Dinamo Bucharest 4-1 on aggregate in play offs, having one the first game away from home with a 2-0 scoreline), while Ruch already has done more, than it was expected. Their main focus will be the league this season, they simply do not have the depth in squad to compete on more than 1 competition This one should be an away win, maybe even HT/FT @3.1 Game ended 0-0, bet lost it doesn't matter too much now who had the better chances or more shots on goal, a loss is a loss - apologies to the ones who followed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dealer_dil Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Forgive my ignorance ' date=' but which crime did uefa commit ?[/quote'] You know too well which crime was that. I'm no interested in arguing with men without honor. End of topic for me. As for Aktobe - Legia game, I watched full match on TV and I must say that I expected much more from hosts. Sure, they were determinate as hell, hunger, desire all those things were in right place, but quality of passes, especially final ones and quality of shots was really poor, especially in first half. Legia played wise, used set pieces and individual moves of their attacking level. Experience and smarter game plan were on there sides. After goal Aktobe were even more determinate and finally created some real chances. Legia were lucky to not concede a goal. However, in last minutes of the game Aktobe struggled again and Legia are practically already in group phase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paolodrosi Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Panathinaikos-Midtjylland over 2,5 2,36 Very good price for two attacking teams, and I think big mistake by bookies. Pana failed to qualify to CL playoffs, because lost at home 1-2 agaist Standard Liege, followed by a scorless draw in Belgium. The last 20-25 min. in the second game at Athens, Pana missed 4-5 glorius chances, and two times the ball hit the bar. Very efficient and proven strikers in the faces of Berg and Petric. The problems are on the back line and on gollie position. Schildenfeld is very strong in the air, but slow when the ball is down on the field. He can't change directions easy. Kotsolis at the goal, is too old and without a full season since 5 years ago. Midtjylland leads the Danish league after 5 rounds and failed to score only once, against the former champions Aalborg (2-0). They have the same coach for 3 years and they adapted a well organized and attacking style of playing. The two strikers Igboun and Rasmoussen, are good scorers with 2 each one so far. I 'm going to take this special price at 2,36, because the teams have offensive mind and approach on the games. Plus the good scorers up front. Half time and already the scoreline is 3-1. Markus Berg scored triple. Easy money and I dropped two icecubes in my frappe. Good job Markus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJG Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st You know too well which crime was that. I'm no interested in arguing with men without honor. End of topic for me. As for Aktobe - Legia game, I watched full match on TV and I must say that I expected much more from hosts. Sure, they were determinate as hell, hunger, desire all those things were in right place, but quality of passes, especially final ones and quality of shots was really poor, especially in first half. Legia played wise, used set pieces and individual moves of their attacking level. Experience and smarter game plan were on there sides. After goal Aktobe were even more determinate and finally created some real chances. Legia were lucky to not concede a goal. However, in last minutes of the game Aktobe struggled again and Legia are practically already in group phase. Chill out fella I asked a question , and for the record there was no crime commited by uefa , but a huge error by legia , their own doing nobody else's , honour doesn't come into it when there's rules in black and white. I'm not interested in arguing either, I'm all for debate though , its a forum afterall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alessan Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Well, Dinamo performed well enough for me, I've found value in Dinamo not to lose... Should have been more determined... Dinamo delivered. Sent from my LG-D855 using PL Forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SycoASL Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Anyone confident that Rijeka can still win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidymac Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Chill out fella I asked a question , and for the record there was no crime commited by uefa , but a huge error by legia , their own doing nobody else's , honour doesn't come into it when there's rules in black and white. I'm not interested in arguing either, I'm all for debate though , its a forum afterall. A bit off topic, but a slap on the wrist for Legia would have been the right call and maybe a big fine. Do you mean to tell me that if Barcelona did the same thing Legia did that they would be thrown out of the Champions League? ;) Barcelona were supposed to have a "transfer ban" yet somehow now have Suarez. Suarez was supposed to be banned from all footballing activity, yet now has been training and came on as a sub the other night. UEFA/FIFA & Rules, there is one agenda and that is £££££. Money talks, and when they brought on that player they were up 6-1 on aggregate. Celtic were destroyed in that game, I'd be embarrased to still be in the champions league if I were a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claugol Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Well, Dinamo performed well enough for me, I've found value in Dinamo not to lose... Should have been more determined... Dinamo delivered. Sent from my LG-D855 using PL Forum Congrats for the win but even if Dinamo won with 3-1 the result doesn't reflect what happened on the field. The fair result would have been 2-1 for Petrolul or in the worst case 1-1; but this is footbal and Dinamo Zagreb is 95% qualified. I personally would consider a x2 bet next weak. Maybe Dinamo will consider itself already qualified and will not be 100% focused on the game. Petrolul has the power to score in Zagreb but they need more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claugol Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Lyon-Astra 1-2 Astra played very very good...totally outplayed Lyon in the second half and had several big chances to score other goals. I was surprised to see Lyon being so weak...maybe they don't give a crap on EL; who knows. I don't think Astra can loose the qualification here; actually I don't think Lyon can hurt them in Giurgiu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJG Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st A bit off topic, but a slap on the wrist for Legia would have been the right call and maybe a big fine. Do you mean to tell me that if Barcelona did the same thing Legia did that they would be thrown out of the Champions League? ;) Barcelona were supposed to have a "transfer ban" yet somehow now have Suarez. Suarez was supposed to be banned from all footballing activity, yet now has been training and came on as a sub the other night. UEFA/FIFA & Rules, there is one agenda and that is £££££. Money talks, and when they brought on that player they were up 6-1 on aggregate. Celtic were destroyed in that game, I'd be embarrased to still be in the champions league if I were a fan. Yes I think they would be threw out as its in the rules , we were hammered and didn't deserve to go through but its not our fault other teams can't adhere to the rules , its a schoolboy error , uefa would not let us play a one off tie as legia wanted , a 3-0 is there for playing a suspended player. If they scored one if the penalties they missed they would have went through 5-4 , I'm not embarrassed as a celtic fan , embarrassed at the result on the park yes but not for legia breaking the rules. Saying if it were barca is pure speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SycoASL Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Tempted to go for over 0.5 goals in Rijeka match but, these teams have no composure in front of goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dzontra85 Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > Thursday August 21st I know that there is a big diference betwen France and Romanian league but game betwen OL and Astra should be interesting. OL is not the same team few years back when they played few years in a row Quarter final in CL.They have decent team but in France they should finish betwen 3-5 place. On the other hand Astra is maybe best team in Romania this year they are playing attacking football and I am expecting them to score in France. In previous round even Mlada Bolesov score one in France so in this game I wiil go BTTS YES @2.15 local bookies. GL Astra didnt score once...they score twice :nana. Too bad that Partizan went over otherwise it could be good night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masturbinho Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Chill out fella I asked a question , and for the record there was no crime commited by uefa , but a huge error by legia , their own doing nobody else's , honour doesn't come into it when there's rules in black and white. I'm not interested in arguing either, I'm all for debate though , its a forum afterall. What error by Legia? Berzynski was suspended for three matches, he sat out the matches with St. Patrick's and the first leg with Celtic. But he wasn't registered for the St. Patrick's matches? Why do you need to register a player when he is suspended and won't play. Legia deserve nothing more than a few thousand euro fine. Based on that logic, Maribor should be awarded a 3-0 victory because at a certain point in the match, a Celtic fan threw a bottle of water on the pitch. Football matches are won on the field, not in some office. Celtic are probably the biggest cowards in European football, for a second time after being eliminated on the field, they search for errors in the opponent's paperwork in order to use a pathetic rule by UEFA that grants a 3-0 for not properly filled paperwork. Sion was the other disgracefully eliminated team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotoSchillaci Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Feel sorry for Legia. Got ousted by the football mafia because they are a modest club from Poland. Shame on Celtic. They will get ravaged in the group stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simeon Borisof Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Dinamo Minsk-Nacional Madeira I am looking at the stats and i can't see this game being any different than under 2.5.Dinamo eliminated MYPA 3:0 on aggregate(1:0 and 2:0),Cluj(1:0 and 2:0).Dinamo is very strong home team.They have won 9 out of 10 at home.They have conceded 8 goals in 21 games.Their only defeat on home soil is against BATE when they gave up the 1st position.Nacional lost their first game of the season at home to Moreirense(0:1).Nacional used to take most of their points at home last season and when they were on the road they parked the bus waiting.Dinamo should be in better condition given the fact that their new season had started a month ago.Both teams rely mostly on their defences.The stake is big here because both teams are not one of the wealthiest in the world. Under 2.5 @ 1.6 with bet365 high stake and a small play on 1&under 2.5 @ 4.5 all with bet365. 2:0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJG Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st What error by Legia? Berzynski was suspended for three matches' date=' he sat out the matches with St. Patrick's and the first leg with Celtic. But he wasn't registered for the St. Patrick's matches? Why do you need to register a player when he is suspended and won't play. Legia deserve nothing more than a few thousand euro fine. Based on that logic, Maribor should be awarded a 3-0 victory because at a certain point in the match, a Celtic fan threw a bottle of water on the pitch. Football matches are won on the field, not in some office. Celtic are probably the biggest cowards in European football, for a second time after being eliminated on the field, they search for errors in the opponent's paperwork in order to use a pathetic rule by UEFA that grants a 3-0 for not properly filled paperwork. Sion was the other disgracefully eliminated team.[/quote'] Its the rules , don't ask me , and stop blaming celtic and point your anger at uefa , it was also stated your OWN club informed of the error not celtic , we done nothing but keep quiet and rightly so , cowards ? Don't make me laugh , not one club would turn down the chance of 15m due to another clubs error, and uefa wouldn't allow us to take matters into our own hands and start offering a one off match. Your anger is miss directed and you fine well know it. Enjoy the Europa , I hope you do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJG Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Feel sorry for Legia. Got ousted by the football mafia because they are a modest club from Poland. Shame on Celtic. They will get ravaged in the group stage. Go look at their previous before calling them modest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFK7 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Completely correct, there is a history of UEFA punishing small teams more harshly than big ones...particularly Polish teams. Legia should have at least had a replay. Big teams in the later rounds means bucks...and thats where it stops! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jase82 Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Its the rules , don't ask me , and stop blaming celtic and point your anger at uefa , it was also stated your OWN club informed of the error not celtic , we done nothing but keep quiet and rightly so , cowards ? Don't make me laugh , not one club would turn down the chance of 15m due to another clubs error, and uefa wouldn't allow us to take matters into our own hands and start offering a one off match. Your anger is miss directed and you fine well know it. Enjoy the Europa , I hope you do well. I thought there was part of the ruling that allowed for the benefiting team to refuse the offer of reinstatement? Swear I read Celtic could have refused it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masturbinho Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Its the rules , don't ask me , and stop blaming celtic and point your anger at uefa , it was also stated your OWN club informed of the error not celtic , we done nothing but keep quiet and rightly so , cowards ? Don't make me laugh , not one club would turn down the chance of 15m due to another clubs error, and uefa wouldn't allow us to take matters into our own hands and start offering a one off match. Your anger is miss directed and you fine well know it. Enjoy the Europa , I hope you do well. Good luck in the return leg, you'll need it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJG Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Good luck in the return leg' date=' you'll need it![/quote'] I was being genuine mate , I hope you do well as I feel for the fans etc but as I said rules are rules, I know we lost and deservedly so but its there in black and white and not out fault. Anyway I keep going over old ground and can't see us agreeing so best we move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotoSchillaci Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st I read that Legia sent an open letter to Celtic (BEFORE they knew that they couldn't sort it out between themselves) to invite them to discuss the situation as gentlemen. From the Scottish there wasn't a peep :lol email, letter, fax, statement, phone call NADA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJG Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st I read that Legia sent an open letter to Celtic (BEFORE they knew that they couldn't sort it out between themselves) to invite them to discuss the situation as gentlemen. From the Scottish there wasn't a peep :lol email' date= letter, fax, statement, phone call NADA Rightly so , if we took matters into our own hands we would find ourselves in trouble from UEFA, the begging and public bashing was very cringeworthy. Do you think any team in celtics position would just let the other club go through ? Not that it was celtics decision to make its uefa , as I said , miss directed at us when it should be to uefa and the admin people at legia for a schoolboy error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotoSchillaci Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Not suggesting they should of "just let the other club go through". Suggesting they should of shown some class and answer the phone. Not hide under the desk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev2oo9 Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Celtic given another chance just like when Sion had played players they were meant to be banned from signing. Uefa has ruled on it , rules are rules , and to speak of class in football is a bit funny. Say legia take a dive and win penalty when its 2-2 and score to go through , would legia fans ask for a replay ? Dont think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotoSchillaci Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Well that's neither here nor there. That's not what happened. What is relevant is that Celtic were hammered on aggregate. Not close, but hammered. The infringing player's presence had no impact whatsoever on the aggregate score. The rules are unjust and UEFA ain't no yardstick of fairness in this world. There are viscous African dictatorships more fair and benevolent than UEFA :lol So by saying "rules are rules" etc etc. You are just championing the unfairness of the whole situation and encouraging the establishment to keep these horribly unfair rulings up year after year. Nothing will change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev2oo9 Posted August 24, 2014 Share Posted August 24, 2014 Re: UEFA Europa League > August 20th & 21st Technically they never as Celtic went through on away goals , think Griffiths got awarded hat trick in that 3-0 win . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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