Kithanga Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Paddy Power have now joined Bet Victor and Boylesports in removing the Best Odds Guarantee from my account. Has this happened to anyone else recently with their Paddy Power account or is it just me? Having stake less than £300 with them in the last three months, losing just under £50, I found it quite a surprise to say the least. Needless to say I got the usual answer..... It was a trading team decision, we don't know the reason why and the decision is final. Just be aware that if you currently bet with them (or plan to) this may happen to you too, if it hasn't already. Great customer service Paddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotter Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els Still showing as BOG on the Oddschecker site I haven't got an account myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyRooney Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els Bet victor removing bog is standard procedure..boyles sports usual practice is remove bog,limit bets to pittance,then they say limit you on certain markets but really mean all markets.stan James just ban ya..I've never heard of powers doing this but I don't bet much with them as their odds are terrible,especially as they are the first to shorten in a gamble... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyHills Posted September 21, 2013 Share Posted September 21, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els Still showing as BOG on the Oddschecker site I haven't got an account myself Think Kithanga meant on individual accounts Trotter, not wholesale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kithanga Posted September 21, 2013 Author Share Posted September 21, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els I did BH yes. I suspect I know the reasons for the removal and silly limits with Boylesports and have written them off as a waste of time years ago. With Bet Victor I'm not sure why they removed BOG but they do still lay me a decent bet and I haven't had any limits imposed (yet). Betfred are also in my waste of space category as I get BOG but it's useless as I rarely get a bet accepted in full (usually limited to a return of £100 maximum). I was just surprised really that Paddy Power also took this course of action as I don't bet often or big with them and wanted to know if it was just me or whether they're having a general clamp down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeblitz Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els First of all, I don't have any accounts because I feel it gives them an edge. They know you and can monitor you. You are not allowed to win overall and they will do anything they can to stop you. Too many e/w bets and your account will be closed regardless of the stake. I have noticed that Powers prices are not very good in general compared with what they were. And they got caught too many times in the maidens in Ireland last summer so they cut their guaranteed odds stake on mps from 500 to 100. They only way to deal with them is to hit them hard where it hurts when they overprice something and believe me they will! They can act smart but remember there are always those that are smarter! All bookies hate singles. Softly softly catches the mouse :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy2shoes Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els First of all, I don't have any accounts because I feel it gives them an edge. They know you and can monitor you. You are not allowed to win overall and they will do anything they can to stop you. Too many e/w bets and your account will be closed regardless of the stake. I have noticed that Powers prices are not very good in general compared with what they were. And they got caught too many times in the maidens in Ireland last summer so they cut their guaranteed odds stake on mps from 500 to 100. They only way to deal with them is to hit them hard where it hurts when they overprice something and believe me they will! They can act smart but remember there are always those that are smarter! All bookies hate singles. Softly softly catches the mouse :) Spot On. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kithanga Posted September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els Joe, I agree with you on the singles, that's all I bet in. Only do each way on 16+ runner handicaps. It's not that easy for me to hit them hard though as my bets were often limited by them to win a couple of hundred. I just don't understand their reasoning. Does anyone? For example, my account with them since it opened is down about £1k so it's not profitable. For this reason, I was always confused with the limiting of stakes and just assumed it was based on the level of their book but I'm completely mistified as to why they now want to remove BOG as well. As an example, my account with Stan James is thousands ahead and yet there's no limits imposed, not even a limiting of stakes. Bet365, Ladbrokes, Coral and Hills are also ok yet I've heard of others who struggle with some of them. I bet the same with SJ as I did with PP, taking price when they offer best odds. If I could understand the traders rationale I could work around it. Does anyone know how they make their decisions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky Posted September 22, 2013 Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els do you withdraw often? do you leave your account in credit? do you lay off bets with them? check your betting patterns, it may be that they have "sussed you out" or you are not profitable to them on a like for like basis,only a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kithanga Posted September 22, 2013 Author Share Posted September 22, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els Corky, I only tend to withdraw when the balance goes over a set amount (same as any other account), which hasn't happened much with them. Deposits far outweigh, therefore account always in credit (enough for a couple of bets) & never lay off bets, just straight singles, nothing fancy. There's no different pattern with them to any of the other bookies I use. I can't believe they've sussed me out as there's nothing to suss out. I'm not a pro gambler or tipster, I don't trade or lay off bets, I don't back each way when favourite odds on in non handicaps, no each way doubles, etc. I don't follow tipping lines or pricewise or hugh taylor, I'm just an ordinary guy who likes to study the form and pit my wits against them as a leisure pursuit and to moderate stakes. The only thing I don't do is back on slots, casino games, virtual racing, etc. Anyway, it seems as though no-one else on here has been targeted, which is good. All I've got left to say is.... Based on my experience if you haven't already opened an account with Paddy Power and are thinking of doing so, I honesty couldn't recommend them to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBoyRooney Posted September 23, 2013 Share Posted September 23, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els As an example' date=' my account with Stan James is thousands ahead and yet there's no limits imposed, not even a limiting of stakes. [/quote'] This doesn't sound like stan james at all..They are next to Boylesports the quickest bookie to limit and then ban you outright.Very suprising.Long may it continue for you cause stan james odds are always so high.I remember towards the end with them i would put in €5 ew and the computer slip would automatically change to 0.03cent ew or something like that... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeblitz Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Re: Paddy Power removed best odds guarantee, bonuses & other concessions - anyone els Kithanga, you could try ringing them and asking for a manager to explain (which is your right). Now they may or may not tell you. There could have been a change of personel I don't know but it defeats the purpose of having the account if you can't get all the add ons. Mind you I would rather just get on. Powers have no trouble laying a few grand in the offices at the morning price and will still guarantee the first £500.00 (it's 500 again) and if I am having a big bet I would rather go to them as Boylesports and Ladbrokes can't be trusted to take it. When you play for serious money, you have to get it right regarding the morning price and are not really worried about guarantees as you fully expect the price to be much shorter. On the other hand, that is why you would go to the races. yes the price will be shorter but you will get any amount on there. And a word of warning regarding horses prices 6/1 or better. Don't even attempt to have more than £50 e/w in one shop as in most cases you will be refused. It depends of course on a few things but easy for them to lay you 25e/w and cut the price. Best to spread it around in smaller amounts in different offices. The best stings are the ones they know nothing about. Think smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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