Wimbledon 2013

[IAmGooner]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Mens R1 - Donskoy +4 games vs Isner @ 1.877 (Pinnacle) Donskoy beat him a week ago and Isner isnt great on the Wimbledon grass. Plus his style lends itself to tight matches, dominates on serve but not good on return. Should be a couple of tight sets and I'd say more than 3 so I give the line a shot here. Womens R1 - Cetkovska to beat Vekic @ 2.290 (Pinnacle) Vekic is the new young star on the tour, and you have to be impressed but this looks like a coin toss of a match to me. Vekic did brilliantly getting to the final in Birmingham losing to Hantuchova...great result for her and she has a good game, really goes for her shots. But Cetkovska can play and has experience...she has been injured for alot of the year but did reach round 3 of the French and has won matches at Wimbledon in past years. Has variety and comes forward at times so I think she can disrupt the youngster, and worth a go as an underdog imo. :hope Good luck for Wimbledon everyone! Looking forward to it, best slam of the year easily.

[Atko]

Big fan of Wimbledon and going to come back into the fray with all of these: - EVGENY DONSKOY +4.5 GAMES v John Isner @ 1.88 with 888sport Tough draw for big John here. He doesn't actually do that well on grass as he finds the low bounce difficult. Not going to be easy against a man who beat him in s'Hertogenbosch last week and didn't drop serve against him. Donskoy has a real chance here and shouldn't be on this high a plus. - DUSTIN BROWN +3.5 GAMES v Guillermo Garcia-Lopez @ 1.98 with 888sport Brown is a very unorthodox player. He slices a lot of shots and rushes the net. Tactic is most effective on grass and that's why he's worth a play on the plus here. GGL has beaten him before, but he's not reliable over five sets and is capable of mental collapses. Might squeak through, but qualifier is a nasty draw for him. - DAVID GOFFIN +7.5 GAMES v Jo-Wilfried Tsonga @ 1.92 with 888sport Goffin loves the big matches. Played very well against Nole in Paris last month and wasn't overawed. Hard to see JWT dominating. Goffin showed last year that he can play on grass and Tsonga isn't one to steamroller opponents often. Belgian kid more than capable of taking a set or keeping them all close. - EDOUARD ROGER-VASSELIN +5,5 GAMES v Ernests Gulbis @ 1.95 with 888sport Something tells me this will be tough for Ernie. On an outside court, away from the cameras ... he's ripe for a shock. ERV is a tricky chap on grass - likes to come in, put pressure on the opponent and he's a grafter. They played in Delray Beach final earlier this year and Ernie won, but this is R1 and not in the limelight. - ANDY MURRAY -7.5 GAMES v Benjamin Becker @ 1.92 with 888sport Expecting a big two weeks from Andy. He defeated Benni at Queen's a few weeks ago and it was tight, but on a bigger stage and over best-of-five, he'll get a handle on Becker's power and move him around the court better. Seems a low handicap on one of the favourites for the title. Should have a 6-2 in him somewhere. - TOMMY ROBREDO -5.5 GAMES v Alex Bogomolov Jnr @ 2.04 with 888sport (NAP) Daft line and daft price. These are two men going in different directions. Robredo is on a roll right now after QFs in Paris and is playing steady percentage tennis. He leads the H2H 2-0 against a man on the downswing, who dwells in low-end 250s and Challengers and is low on confidence. Should be routine. - UNDER 27.5 GAMES between Roger Federer and Victor Hanescu @ 2.00 with 888sport Can't see Rog, as defending champ, hang around here. Hanescu has a big serve and will need to be firing bombs, because he'll be annihilated in longer rallies. Can see Federer motoring away and Romanian is one of the guys on tour who won't fight if the match slips away from him. Expecting a 6-1 in here from Federer on his favourite court. - MARCOS BAGHDATIS +5.5 GAMES v Marin Cilic @ 2.04 with 888sport Baggy is in dire form, he's not won since Valentine's Day, but he's a dangerous boy in Slams because he rises to the occasion. Cilic has never really excelled at Wimbers and could be susceptible to a shotmaker like Baggy. Croat throws in quite a few 4/5 setters in Slams and I can see this being one of them. Despite his form, I wouldn't be surprised if the Cypriot wins here. - OVER 40.5 GAMES between Marinko Matosevic and Guillaume Rufin @ 1.90 with 888sport One of those matches that just screams overs. Two decent servers, two poor returners, with concentration and mentality issues. Rufin is flashy, Matosevic is like a Ford Focus - dull, but can get the job done. Matosevic has never won a R1 match in a Slam. This is his best chance to do so, but chances are it'll be a long affair. - NICOLAS ALMAGRO -8.5 GAMES v Jurgen Zopp @ 2.00 with 888sport Never been a big fan of Nico on grass, but Zopp's the perfect opponent. He's just here for the prize money. 2013 has been year of the injury for the Estonian and he's sorely lacking in match fitness. Can't see him being able to last with someone of Nico's calibre. Good luck whatever you play :hope

[benerop]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 @joeblitz Verdasco vs Malisse - Over games: - 3-1 Verdasco in H2H but Malisse won here last year 8-6 in the fifth. In the Aussie open it also went 5! In Australian Open it was a simply 3-0 verdasco with 61/63/62!!! http://www.atpworldtour.com/Tennis/Players/Top-Players/Xavier-Malisse.aspx?t=pa&y=2013&m=s&e=580# Odds are dropping on [email protected] Marathonbet. And with belgian press Xavier said: that is not a easy draw, especially against a left handed player and a agressive one.He rather like a right hand oponent and someone who plays the longer rally .

[Fader]

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The way I see it..... look how close Djokovic was to Nadal on clay. The match was a draw effectively. If Djokovic is that close to Nadal on the surface on which Nadal is so awesome, then I'm fairly confident Djokovic is significantly better than Nadal on the other surfaces. Also, the quarter odds aren't crazy at all. If you look at Grand Slams in recent years, the semi-finals are nearly always very close to what you'd expect pre-tournament and I can't think of anyone outside the 'Big 8' who has made a Grand Slam semi-final in a long time. So odds of 20/1 and 80/1 on players like Haas and Lopez doing so, particularly when in the same quarter as Djokovic, seem absolutely spot-on, or even a bit skinny.

Well not in my opinion. You're entitled to yours.

[Banner]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Robredo -5 Games to beat Bogomolov - Pinnacle @ 1.9 This beat features Robredo ranked 29th in the world and Bogomolov ranked 81st in the world. Robredo is in great form reaching the quarter final of the French Open, before getting knocked out by eventual finalist David Ferrer. Bogomolov may be struggling for fitness after he retired in the Nottingham Challenger a couple of weeks ago. Bogomolov is a very poor grass court player winning just 17 matches to 23 loses. Robredo is marginally better winning 24 matches to 21 loses. Bogomolov is very much a challenger tour player these days and when he has tried to qualify for the bigger events he has failed on most occasions. This shows the difference in quality between these two, as Robredo is playing at the top level each week. Tommy Robredo has recorded some impressive victories already this year beating the likes of Almagro and Monfils on clay at the French Open. Aswell as winning in Casablanca, beating Paire Wawrinka and Anderson along the way. He also reached the Quarter final in Madrid beating Berdych and Dimitrov along the way. The head to head favours Robredo 2-0. On both occasions Robredo won 2-0 aswell as them being on Bogomolov's favourite surface of Hard court. Bogomolov tried to qualify for Eastbourne but lost in the second qualifying round, before just scraping past Pauffley (443) in 3 sets. Then he eventually lost to Dustov in straight sets. This should be a straight forward win for Robredo as he is the much better player in much better form.

[CzechPunter]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Back Melanie Oudin to beat Michelle Larcher de Brito for a 4/10 stake at 1.88 with Pinnacle Larcher de Brito might still be the future of tennis, but I am just not seeing it to be honest. She has not done a great deal ever since those few big results a few years back and I am not sure that she is at the same level as Melanie Oudin, who seems to have found some decent form in recent weeks and months. She might not be winning too much, but at least she is fighting with the top players in the world. At the end of the day, I feel that Oudin should be a bigger fav here really. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/oudin-vs-larcher-de-brito-betting-melanie-oudin-looks-like-a-solid-favourite-against-michelle-larcher-de-brito-20130624 Back Lucie Hradecka (-2.5) to beat Karin Knapp for a 4/10 stake at 1.98 with Pinnacle Well, I just cannot see how Knapp will be able to deal with Hradecka's power on grass, as she is pretty much a clay court specialist. There is always the possibility of Hradecka self-destructing and I am well aware of that, but that is a risk that I am willing to take given that she seems to have recovered from her injury and even scored some decent wins on clay recently. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/hradecka-vs-knapp-betting-lucie-hradecka-shouldn-t-have-too-many-problems-against-karin-knapp-20130624 Back Coco Vandeweghe (+1.5 sets) to beat Petra Kvitova for a 3/10 stake at 3.59 with Pinnacle Back Coco Vandeweghe to beat Petra Kvitova for a 1/10 stake at 10.25 with Pinnacle I can't see Kvitova going far this year, I really can't. Apart from her obvious form problems, there will also be plenty of things going through her head with the Czech media bothering her with all sorts of things. She has never been able to put all off-court issues aside and just focus on the task at hand, so I wouldn't be surprised by seeing her struggle right from the start. Vandeweghe is no world beater, but she does have a decent serve and that is something that could easily be enough for a set here, as Kvitova is more than capable of giving her serve away without any resistance at some point. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/vandeweghe-vs-kvitova-betting-coco-vandeweghe-could-become-the-big-surprise-of-the-first-round--20130624 Back Bojana Jovanovski to beat Ajla Tomljanovic for a 4/10 stake at 1.82 with Pinnacle Ajla Tomljanovic seems to be a rising star and her run in Miami earlier this year deserves a lot of respect, but I still find it a bit hard to think that she should be only a slight underdog against someone as good as Bojana Jovanovski. The Serb is certainly no stranger to grass and has been enjoying a relatively good year so far, so I would probably expect her to be a bit too strong for someone like Tomljanovic. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/jovanovski-vs-tomljanovic-betting-bojana-jovanovski-should-be-too-strong-for-ajla-tomljanovic-20130624

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Can you explain your opinions a bit please? I've said look how close Djokovic got to Nadal on clay, therefore he should be better than him on the other surfaces. Why do you think that is incorrect? Also, I've pointed out how so many recent Grand Slams feature the obvious semi-finalists. Why do you think this one could see Haas or Lopez reaching the semi-final ahead of Djokovic? You haven't said anything to counter or dis-prove my arguments.

Sure, What is the current head-2-head record of Nadal Vs Djokovic? Nadal 20-15. Djokovic is the king on grass though, you say. What is the current head-2-head record of Nadal Vs Djokovic, on the grass? Nadal 2-1! Yes, Djokovic got close to Nadal in the French Open but I don't personally think Nadal ever looked like losing. One set he won 6-1 and it could of easily been 3-1 in that match with the tie-breaker. Nadal won Wimbledon in 2010 and Djokovic won it in 2011. 2012 Nadal was plagued with injuries so I'm not going to take 2012 into the discussion. They haven't played on grass since 2011 and like I say Nadal leads the grass head-2-head 2-1 so I hardly think you can say Djokovic is vastly superior. In terms of what you say about the grand slams. You will always have the main players near the end of a tournament but it's not guaranteed. 2010 had lots of players whom were not in the main 4. There were players outside the top 4 in 2011 too... 2012 was infact the only year I can find where it was mainly top 4 in semi's. 2010 Australian Open - Djokovic & Nadal both out in QF and Cilic[14] and Tsonga [10] get into Semi-finals. 2010 Wimbledon Open - Berdych [12] gets to a semi-final and beats Djokovic in year Nadal wins. 2010 US Open - Youzhny [12] makes semi-final 2010 French Open - Berdych [15] makes a semi-final along with Melzer [22] 2011 Wimbledon Open - Tsonga [12] reaches a semi-final I've already stated in my preview why I think either of these 2 have the quality to reach a semi-final but I'll go over it in abit more detail for you. Haas got to the semi-final of Halle where he lost 2-1 to Federer. This has been his first grass event but on the clay he has also got to the QF of the French where he pushed Djokovic close won ATP Munich. He also got to a semi-final in an ATP event in Florida where along the way he beat Djokovic in straight sets 6-2 / 6-4. He has the ability to push Djokovic. Lopez has won 9 of his last 10 matches and in his first 2 grass events of the year he has got to the last 16 of one of those and won the other. He has beat players in good form along the way and anyone with a 9/10 record going into Wimbledon is going to be buoyed on to go above the level of their competence. In 90% of cases of slams you will see in QFs a Haas or a Lopez so why is it against the realms of possibility that one of these cannot beat Djokovic if they have in the past? for all we know Djokovic could even be carrying a niggle or may get injured. At the end of the day I'm not telling you to bet on my picks. It's a tip and a tip can be ignored. I've picked the winner of the last 3 tennis tournaments [Kanepi/Nadal/Lopez] so I'm happy either way.

[RuleBritaniaa]

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The way I see it..... look how close Djokovic was to Nadal on clay. The match was a draw effectively. If Djokovic is that close to Nadal on the surface on which Nadal is so awesome' date= then I'm fairly confident Djokovic is significantly better than Nadal on the other surfaces. Also, the quarter odds aren't crazy at all. If you look at Grand Slams in recent years, the semi-finals are nearly always very close to what you'd expect pre-tournament and I can't think of anyone outside the 'Big 8' who has made a Grand Slam semi-final in a long time. So odds of 20/1 and 80/1 on players like Haas and Lopez doing so, particularly when in the same quarter as Djokovic, seem absolutely spot-on, or even a bit skinny.

He has no issues with the Nadal game the way others do. Nadal's game on clay centers around really attacking the backhand of an opponent, but the two player's who have the two best backhands in men's tennis have caused him problems, one has beaten him and one has pushed him close. Novak Djokovic and Ernest Gulbis. On grass he (Nadal) is made to try other things different, but Nadal's strength, reverse forehand cross court goes directly striaght into Novak's strength, his backhand. Djokovic more than enjoys taking the ball out of the air at a good height and flattening it out with the backhand. It's definitely fair to say, Djokovic has no issues with Rafa's game on any surface other than clay. He beat Rafa in the final here in 2011 and it certainly seems to me as though Rafa feels anything he gets outside of clay, considering his knee issues, would be a bonus. That said, he is a bad matchup for Federer, always has been, we all know why, his reverse whipped forehand cross court goes into Federer backhand. Often Roger gets frustrated and runs around the backhand onto his forehand but then leaves the other court exposed to a Nadal counter, if Rafa correctly reads where Roger goes with that forehand. It's pretty much why Federer is as far out as 10/1. He has to go through Nadal, Murray and Djokovic to win the title. I reckon Nadal will beat him, if they both get to the quarters, but I agree with you in that Djokovic has the beating of Nadal outside of clay.

[RuleBritaniaa]

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Sure, What is the current head-2-head record of Nadal Vs Djokovic? Nadal 20-15. Djokovic is the king on grass though, you say. What is the current head-2-head record of Nadal Vs Djokovic, on the grass? Nadal 2-1! Yes, Djokovic got close to Nadal in the French Open but I don't personally think Nadal ever looked like losing. One set he won 6-1 and it could of easily been 3-1 in that match with the tie-breaker.

Wah?

What was the score here? This is how close he was to losing. Novak was in the ascendency and would have held and closed it out. Massive, huge turning point. All Novak had to do was smash the ball into the ground and he chose for a dropper. lol Ofcourse you never really believe Nadal's going to lose at the French, he's only ever lost there once. So we are blinkered into believing he's never going to lose, even when he is on the brink of doing so.

[Fader]

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Wah?

This is how close he was to losing. Novak was in the ascendency would have held and closed it out. Massive, huge turning point.

He touched the net? ... he lost the point. Matches always have swings in ascendancy.

[Abd El Kader french]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Hi all , what bet is more value for you ? Baghdatis Over15.5 Games @1.85 or Over 3.5sets @1.80 all on Betcity I think the +3.5set is more value because Over 15.5 is too high, he's included Bagda win 2 sets and 2/3 games more and it is possible but he dont have a lot of chance to do it, but he can win easily one set if he's focus today sorry for my english

[RuleBritaniaa]

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Sure, What is the current head-2-head record of Nadal Vs Djokovic? Nadal 20-15. Djokovic is the king on grass though, you say. What is the current head-2-head record of Nadal Vs Djokovic, on the grass? Nadal 2-1! Yes, Djokovic got close to Nadal in the French Open but I don't personally think Nadal ever looked like losing. One set he won 6-1 and it could of easily been 3-1 in that match with the tie-breaker. Nadal won Wimbledon in 2010 and Djokovic won it in 2011. 2012 Nadal was plagued with injuries so I'm not going to take 2012 into the discussion. They haven't played on grass since 2011 and like I say Nadal leads the grass head-2-head 2-1 so I hardly think you can say Djokovic is vastly superior. In terms of what you say about the grand slams. You will always have the main players near the end of a tournament but it's not guaranteed. 2010 had lots of players whom were not in the main 4. There were players outside the top 4 in 2011 too... 2012 was infact the only year I can find where it was mainly top 4 in semi's. 2010 Australian Open - Djokovic & Nadal both out in QF and Cilic[14] and Tsonga [10] get into Semi-finals. 2010 Wimbledon Open - Berdych [12] gets to a semi-final and beats Djokovic in year Nadal wins. 2010 US Open - Youzhny [12] makes semi-final 2010 French Open - Berdych [15] makes a semi-final along with Melzer [22] 2011 Wimbledon Open - Tsonga [12] reaches a semi-final I've already stated in my preview why I think either of these 2 have the quality to reach a semi-final but I'll go over it in abit more detail for you. Haas got to the semi-final of Halle where he lost 2-1 to Federer. This has been his first grass event but on the clay he has also got to the QF of the French where he pushed Djokovic close won ATP Munich. He also got to a semi-final in an ATP event in Florida where along the way he beat Djokovic in straight sets 6-2 / 6-4. He has the ability to push Djokovic. Lopez has won 9 of his last 10 matches and in his first 2 grass events of the year he has got to the last 16 of one of those and won the other. He has beat players in good form along the way and anyone with a 9/10 record going into Wimbledon is going to be buoyed on to go above the level of their competence. In 90% of cases of slams you will see in QFs a Haas or a Lopez so why is it against the realms of possibility that one of these cannot beat Djokovic if they have in the past? for all we know Djokovic could even be carrying a niggle or may get injured. At the end of the day I'm not telling you to bet on my picks. It's a tip and a tip can be ignored. I've picked the winner of the last 3 tennis tournaments [Kanepi/Nadal/Lopez] so I'm happy either way.

I think it's worth remembering when you weigh up all these head to head statistics and past matches that it has only been since 2011 where Djokovic became the player he is today. I vastly disagree with all the points and for me you've kinda cherry picked the statistics to bring out to suit your case, there's somany others stats we could look at, more relevant, that would tell you different. We all know Djokovic brings a different level of intensity and standard to his grandslam matches, he's not the consumate professional, he may have played Monte Carlo despite his injury but that was a title he had began the year setting out to win.

Haas got to the semi-final of Halle where he lost 2-1 to Federer. This has been his first grass event but on the clay he has also got to the QF of the French where he pushed Djokovic close won ATP Munich. He also got to a semi-final in an ATP event in Florida where along the way he beat Djokovic in straight sets 6-2 / 6-4. He has the ability to push Djokovic. Lopez has won 9 of his last 10 matches and in his first 2 grass events of the year he has got to the last 16 of one of those and won the other. He has beat players in good form along the way and anyone with a 9/10 record going into Wimbledon is going to be buoyed on to go above the level of their competence. In 90% of cases of slams you will see in QFs a Haas or a Lopez so why is it against the realms of possibility that one of these cannot beat Djokovic if they have in the past? for all we know Djokovic could even be carrying a niggle or may get injured.

Halle's grass courts are different from the more modern day grassocurts used everywhere else, the grass courts used at wimbledon virtually play like a medium pace hardcourt, only that the ball skids off the surface after contact. So Haas was able to rely a lot on his serve against Roger in Halle, serve and quick fire one two punches, as well as exposing the Federer single hander. Even though we should never be ever reading into a little best of 3 sets win at a masters series Djokovic has already won.... “All the credit to him,” Djokovic said. “He played a great match and he was the better player, no question about it. The results show everything. As far as I’m concerned, it’s definitely the worst match I have played in a long time.” Source - http://www.tennis-x.com/xblog/2013-03-27/11991.php You can catch Djokovic cold, unprepared and complacent in a best of 3 sets in a masters event may be, but can you do that in a grandslam? Feliciano Lopez? 9/10 on grass against substandard opposition. Lopez's strength and depdency is his serve and Novak being the best returner the game has ever seen would just neutralise that weapon immediately and take away what make pretty boy so effective on the surface. Lopez's weakness is also his return, I couldn't possibly see him troubling Novak on serve, he can't work with a backhand, mainly slice, Djokovic would slaughter him.

[CzechPunter]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 It is always easy to argue that a 20/1 shot is not going to win.

[RuleBritaniaa]

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He touched the net? ... he lost the point. Matches always have swings in ascendancy.

So he never looked like losing and yet you just admit the match swung in Nadal's favour because of this individual incident? Had he smashed that into the ground instead of patting it over the net, Novak would have had game point for a 5-3 lead. (Leaving him a single game away from losing, 4 points)

[JuMeSyn]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 A tip is just a tip. You can follow it, discuss it, or ignore it. Personally, I rate Djokovic higher than Nadal. I rated Djokovic to win against Nadal 3-2 in that RG game, and it didn't happen by a fingernail. That point was really important, but I also recall two failed smashes. Incredible how players tend to miss sitters against Nadal. The draw was bad for Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer, who may face themselves on the quarter - finals. And to be honest, I can see Nadal going out against Federer. Sure, Nadal is on top of his form, but Federer is still king of grass, and it is the only surface that he can beat Nadal, right now. Also, Federer may retire in 2/3(?) years, and so he will have 2 more years to win Wimbledon, because last year is only to say goodbye, so I'm not expecting that much in his last year. Federer has also said that for him, the season starts now, which means he is fully motivated to win. He wasn't that lucky with his draw, though, he will have to be on top of his game, with big server Hanescu on the 1st round, possibly Lukas Rosol in 3rd, and Hewitt/Wawrinka on 4th if no surprises. But I can't see him slip a set until 4th round. I really like Federer's odds to win this at 9. Will possibly take a unit of it, but I will only make a definite bet on the 2nd week. Very good value. I still think this year is Djoko's year, the draw screams it. But no value there.

[CzechPunter]

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Hi all , what bet is more value for you ? Baghdatis Over15.5 Games @1.85 or Over 3.5sets @1.80 all on Betcity I think the +3.5set is more value because Over 15.5 is too high, he's included Bagda win 2 sets and 2/3 games more and it is possible but he dont have a lot of chance to do it, but he can win easily one set if he's focus today sorry for my english

I would agree with you on that.

[Fader]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 I think when anyone is arguing there point they are "cherry-picking" the points to prove it no? I'm not saying Djokovic can't win wimbledon. He is favorite for a reason. I personally think Nadal will make the final though, so for me 5/1 on him beating Djokovic is good value. In terms of the 2 outsiders they are 20 and 80/1 shots and Czech is right. You can say they aint going to win and they probably won't but take a look at the stakes. I'm not telling people 10pts Lopez to win quarter at 80/1 am I? I try to bring some value to the proceedings because nothing bores me more than 10pts novak to win round 1 @ 1.01 10pts federer to win round 1 @ 1.03

[Fader]

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So he never looked like losing and yet you just admit the match swung in Nadal's favour because of this individual incident? Had he smashed that into the ground instead of patting it over the net' date=' Novak would have had game point for a 5-3 lead. (Leaving him a single game away from losing, 4 points)[/quote'] Well for me I never thought Nadal would lose... even when Djokovic has the ascendancy... if me auntie had a pair she'd be my uncle.

[IAmGooner]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Mens R1 - Roger-Vasselin +5.5 games vs Gulbis @ 2.00 (Stan James) Gulbis has stepped his game up a bit this year but he's not trustable in slams, and ERV can play on the grass. Lost to Lu last week which isnt great but Lu can also play on the grass, but he did take Tsonga to 3 at Queens. Gulbis is favourite but I can see a couple of tight sets, possibly going to 4 so I'd give the line a shot here. Mens R1 - Benneteau vs Kamke OVER 3.5 sets @ 1.72 (Bet365) They played a tough 5 setter at the French Open a few weeks ago. Benneteau is favourite but he does a little short to me here.....not fussed with handicaps as either player can lose easy sets so rather go against either winning in straights. Think this one goes to 4 at least.

[RuleBritaniaa]

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It is always easy to argue that a 20/1 shot is not going to win.

Not refering to the 20/1. I understand it's good to play the probabilities and I do agree that it is value but I simply cannot agree with any of those reasons Fader has put forward. If Nadal is to win Wimbledon, (which I agree he could), he is almost likely going to have to beat Novak, no question. Novak's draw is actually a cakewalk and it's "hopeful" to think he'll fall to anyone before the semi's. Haas has proven he can't withstand best of 5 setters, he doesn't have the fitness, remember the 2 sets to love lead he lost to Gulbis? He was fatiguing hugely losing the second set tie break to Novak at the French too and Lopez just wouldn't hack it from the back of the court against Novak. I agree with the selection, just not the reasons given and so had to voice my disagreemnt, sorry.

[WinningTipster]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 first day of the Wimbledon. WIMBLEDON MAKAROVA TO DEFEAT LARSSON BY 2:0 SETS @ 1.45 on expekt Makarova is a top 10 grass court player with big game and a lot of big wins. Larsson is a consistent player who has a good game for slower surfaces.

[fishy25]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Will add my insight into the first day of the tournament. Kyle Edmund vs Jerzy Janowicz- Tie Break in Match- 10/11 Coral- (4/10) Took this last night and the price has dropped but it's still a lot higher than it should be really. Janowicz possesses the big serve, whilst on return he's nothing special and getting beat by a guy ranked outside the top 200 in Halle is far from ideal preparation. Edmund will have the support behind him and he looks to cope with the pressure pretty well from what I've seen of him so far. Both have played a number of breakers recently and I expect one to occur at some point today. Tobias Kamke vs Julien Benneteau- Over 38.5 games- 5/6 Bet365- (4/10) These two met just a few weeks ago in Paris where they played out a 5 set marathon match, and in fact, 3 of their 4 meeting have gone the distance which leads me to think they will play out another close fought encounter today. Both are pretty solid so there's not too much between the two in actual fact so this one should have some legs on it and the overs looks pretty decent. Radek Stepanek vs Matt Reid- Over 36.5 games- 5/6 Bet365- (4/10) Line looks on the low side to me. I know the Aussie is ranked far lower of the two but he's worked incredibly hard to make the first round here, coming through some grueling qualifiers where he beat the likes of Devvarman and Smyczek who are decent enough players which should see him be right up for this game given the hard work. Stepanek is in decent form himself, but can be prone to some lapses in concentration which should give Reid chances. I just expect Reid to really battle today and if he pinches a set, the line should be fine. Fabio Fognini (-4.5 games) vs Jurgen Melzer- 5/6 Bet365- (3/10) This one could be a nightmare game to bet on considering both players nature here but no way can I be backing Melzer at the minute. I know he leads the H2H 2-0, but his form is non existent and lacks confidence at the minute. He only just about came through against Riccardo Ghedin in Halle before Gasquet creamed him completely. Although this isn't Fog's best surface, he got a couple of wins under his belt in Eastbourne and he beat the likes of Tomic and Llodra 12 months ago on the grass circuit so he can play. The Italian's form is far better and I expect him to come through this one. Adrian Ungur vs Benoit Paire- Over 30.5 games- 10/11 Bet365- (3/10) I don't know why this line is so low but I'm happy to go against Paire here. Despite his talent, he is still wildly inconsistent and although I expect him to be find, he retired against Llodra in his last match so there may be some worries on his mind. Ungur doesn't really venture much off the clay but he should have enough about him to not let Paire hit him off the court. Even if he fails to take a set, a couple of really close ones will see the line through anyway but there's no way I can have Paire this much of a favourite. Dustin Brown (+4.5 games) vs Guillermo Garcia-Lopez- 4/5 Stan James- (3/10) Brown is probably my favourite player to watch on the grass given his unorthodox style but he should cause problems to GGL. He hasn't done thus far on clay in their two meetings, but his big serve and net game should fare far better on the grass, so Garcia-Lopez will have to deal with it. If Brown continues to serve well, the Spaniard's mental state may just hamper him and he could well get frustrated. I don't expect the Spaniard to have this one all his own way like the previous 2 meetings so I'll back the German Jamaican to go well today. Mikhail Youzhny (-6.5 games) vs Robin Haase- 9/10 Stan James- (3/10) The Russian has won in straight sets everytime the two have played one another, and on grass Youzhny is far the better player. He made the final in Halle where he lost to Federer in 3 in the final, but he beat the likes of Nishikori, Kohlschreiber and Gasquet all pretty comfortably so he'll be high in confidence in a tournament where he has points to defend. Haase never convinces me whenever I see him play these days and on a grass court, I find it hard to make a case for him against Youzhny. Nicolas Almagro (-8.5 games) vs Jurgen Zopp- Evens Stan James- (3/10) Perfect draw for the Spaniard here. Zopp has only played 3 matches this season as he's had injury worries so he'll be here just to pick up the prize money you feel. In the last 2 games he's played, Robredo and Stebe have hammered him which shows where his tennis is at right now. Almagro hasn't played on grass yet this season, but this is a welcome opener for him. He may be finding his feet early one, but one of these sets should be really comfortably for him so the handicap looks decent on the Spaniard. Steve Darcis (+8.5 games) vs Rafael Nadal- 11/10 Stan James- (3/10) Think it's worth opposing Nadal in the first round here as he hasn't played on grass yet this season so he may take a game or so to adjust to conditions. Darcis is decent enough on the grass and actually beat Berdych at the Olympics last season and kept Wawrinka close last week so he should be okay to keep it close enough to Nadal here in the Spaniard's first game back on grass since that shock defeat to Rosol 12 months ago. Marcos Baghdatis vs Marin Cilic- Over 36.5 games- 4/5 Stan James- (3/10) Big contrast in form with these two but I still wouldn't be backing Cilic in the slams. Baghdatis even out of form is a dangerous player on the grass and usually raises his game for the slams whilst Cilic is still way too inconsistent for my liking. Could go all the way in my opinion but I think 4 sets is the minimum we will get so overs for me. Jo-Wilfried Tsonga vs David Goffin- Over 31.5 games- 10/11 Stan James- (3/10) There's been talk that the Frenchman has been struggling with a bit of illness so he might not be 100% for this one. Even if he was, he wasn't completely firing at Queen's anyway, dropping sets to Sijsling and Roger-Vasselin so Goffin should be able to go well today. He's pretty good on the grass as he showed 12 months ago where he made the third round here. He's lost his last 5 matches but we saw in Paris what he can do against the top players as he fought Djokovic so think he'll keep this close enough to cover the overs. Tommy Robredo vs Alex Bogomolov- Over 37.5 games- 9/10 Stan James- (3/10) I know on paper Robredo should win this comfortably as Bogomolov hasn't done anything of note for a good while but on grass, I actually think he could trouble Robredo. The Spaniard will just hang about in the rallies but doesn't possess a great deal of power which Bogomolov does to an extent so there could be some mileage in this one. In times gone by, Robredo has been a huge favourite but then been involved in some marathons in London so I think this could have some legs on it.

[Fader]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 so you can't use total career head to heads but you CAN use a random guess that because Djokovic got close to Nadal on clay he automatically beats Nadal on Grass. Why have a tournament eh? Djokovic you win. The fact you think I'm wasting my time I couldn't care less. I was wasting my time on Lopez winning the previous tournament too when Raonic and Simon were going to win and he was 15/1. Yeah right. You do what you want, I'll do what I want. Id much rather a few points on a 20/80 to 1 shot and know that I can make those points up in the matches then stick a big 10 pointer on someone like djokovic at odds on.

[joeblitz]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 It is strange when you write up a match and are wrong in every department and yet you still win your bet. Last night I put up a list of the injured players and Errani was one. She was outplayed obviously and Puig looked very good on the grass. Puig 6-3 6-2 so I win my total games under for a good start but for the wrong reasons :rollin

[dusan.pinturicchio]

Re: Wimbledon 2013

Sergiy Stakhovsky - Rogerio Dutra Silva correct score 3:0 @1.80 bet365 8/10 Stakhovsky's style is great for grass. He has very good serve and play very aggressive. He prepare for Wimbledon, and he played 6 matches this year on grass. Dutra Silva don't play often on grass, in his entire career he played only 8 games on grass. This year he play only one match on grass. He played in Hertogenbosch and lose in first round... I think that this match Stakhovsky will easy win, 3:0 in sets... Good luck!

3:0 (6-4, 6-0, 6-4)

[joeblitz]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Wish I had stuck to my guns with the Cilic unders but at least the Azarenka total games was under 16.5 so I win there too!

[Fader]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Massive fail on Falla but Cilic easily beats Baghdatis to take it back to evens with Donskoy in running : 1.5pts Hsun-Lu to beat J.Ward 3-0 2.75 Bet365 3.5pts Lu -3.5 asian handicap 1.72 Bet365 Lu easily beat Roger-Vasselin and then really should of beat Malisse too before going out of the London grass event. He will have the energy to win today and the placement of shot. Ward will no doubt be up for this but he is ranked 219th and I just don't see him troubling Lu. Ward was easily beat by Tomic in the London event before and went out of Queens in round 1 to Dodig also. He also lost to a qualifier in the Nottingham event. Perhaps his mind on Wimbledon but Lu is 75th in the world and I only see the first set being a close one.

[owenclass]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Denis Istomin vs Andreas Seppi Seppi to win 3-1 set betting 14/5 skybet he is the better player on grass also he is form i expect four sets but his opponent is not bad so expect the sets to be tight Gilles Simon vs Feliciano Lopez Simon to win 3-1 set betting 9/2 skybet i know these two are playing great at the moment but i dont think it will go five but just four tight sets in a close match Ivan Dodig vs Philipp Kohlschreiber Kohlscrieber to win 3-1 set betting 14/5 skybet they both are playing well on this surface and have had some good results of late especially his opponent but i expect the better player to come through Kei Nishikori vs Matthew Ebden Nishikori to win 3-1 set betting 11/4 skybet i expect the better player to win but only losing one set as he is not best grass court player so four sets for me

[Dzontra85]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Rafa is OUT :nana

[PeterX]

Re: Wimbledon 2013 Well that messed up my opening day coupon. Free £50 coral bet down the pan. Cheers Rafa