Antepost > Premier League Relegation

[Aidymac]

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[Crazycoolkat]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation Team to finish 17th in the last four seasons have all gone down in the following season, with all of the last three finishing bottom. Not convinced about Di Canio either so 7/1 with Bet Victor for Sunderland to go down may prove decent. Ladbrokes also offering 16/1 Sunderland finish bottom next season, which is worth a small interest.

[IAmGooner]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation Id say there some value in Sunderland and Southampton looking at those prices. Sunderland are muck and the Di Canio effect lasted about 2 games before they sank again. Can see a hard season for them next year. Interesting to see what business these clubs do in the summer.

[RedDevil92]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation I think there is some value in Sunderland as well plus Fulham. They have been bad for a longer time. It seems there isn't much money left. Southampton is an ambitious club and I think they will spent in the summer just like they did in the past season. Shaw could be sold and maybe get a loan spell for the entire season. This would give them more money to spent. Another club who will find it tough will be West Bromwich. They will lose Lukaku for sure and I heavily doubt they can go and have another great season the next year.

[Jase82]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation I agree with the Sunderland shout. Bit early to say but Di Canio seems to have found a niche for winding his current set of players up. It'll be interesting to see who comes and who goes, but I don't believe they have the luxury of time allowing for wholesale changes (As Di Canio seems to be suggesting is needed). The current players will either leave, or stay and choose to play for him. Either that or they'll stay and not perform. But one things for sure you can say that they'll be a lot of personnel changes in the summer. The other one for me is Stoke (finally). Tipped them to go down two seasons ago after assuming they would FINALLY "get found out". It didn't happen as they spent big on Crouch and a few others. This season for me they've been pretty dreadful. Even when they've won they've not looked great, and you have to think Tony Pulis will need to adapt their style in order to get the results continuing into next season. That's something I don't see happening as 2013 has been pretty dire where they're concerned. I thought when they signed Charlie Adams we'd see a slightly different dimension to their play but he's been largely disappointing. Last season they were quite fortunate in that, there were other candidates slightly worse off than them. This season unless something drastically changes they will find themselves bottom four, at least, come May 2014. Fulham are another potential I guess, but I fancy them to have enough strength in depth to stay afloat. They should have a decent enough chance of scoring the goals that will keep them up. Other sides such as Hull, Stoke, Sunderland, Palace/Watford will prop up the table. Of the promoted sides I fancy Cardiff to do the best. They have the resources, the playing staff (quite a few are clearly good enough for EPL football), should be fresh and will play with no fear. Surprised Villa are still in there at 7s, but they still do lack experience for me. One or two shrewd signings in the middle of the park will see them comfortably into mid table after a storming end of season. Norwich should be there or there abouts and are another potential as their 2013 has also been pretty dire. Take away that mini season they had where they looked like world beaters and they should have gone down. Another reason I don't believe sides such as Fulham, WBA, Swansea, Southampton and West Ham will get sucked into anything too troublesome. There are other sides down there that look in far poorer shape.

[danj2202]

I agree with the Sunderland shout. Bit early to say but Di Canio seems to have found a niche for winding his current set of players up. It'll be interesting to see who comes and who goes, but I don't believe they have the luxury of time allowing for wholesale changes (As Di Canio seems to be suggesting is needed). The current players will either leave, or stay and choose to play for him. Either that or they'll stay and not perform. But one things for sure you can say that they'll be a lot of personnel changes in the summer. The other one for me is Stoke (finally). Tipped them to go down two seasons ago after assuming they would FINALLY "get found out". It didn't happen as they spent big on Crouch and a few others. This season for me they've been pretty dreadful. Even when they've won they've not looked great, and you have to think Tony Pulis will need to adapt their style in order to get the results continuing into next season. That's something I don't see happening as 2013 has been pretty dire where they're concerned. I thought when they signed Charlie Adams we'd see a slightly different dimension to their play but he's been largely disappointing. Last season they were quite fortunate in that, there were other candidates slightly worse off than them. This season unless something drastically changes they will find themselves bottom four, at least, come May 2014. Fulham are another potential I guess, but I fancy them to have enough strength in depth to stay afloat. They should have a decent enough chance of scoring the goals that will keep them up. Other sides such as Hull, Stoke, Sunderland, Palace/Watford will prop up the table. Of the promoted sides I fancy Cardiff to do the best. They have the resources, the playing staff (quite a few are clearly good enough for EPL football), should be fresh and will play with no fear. Surprised Villa are still in there at 7s, but they still do lack experience for me. One or two shrewd signings in the middle of the park will see them comfortably into mid table after a storming end of season. Norwich should be there or there abouts and are another potential as their 2013 has also been pretty dire. Take away that mini season they had where they looked like world beaters and they should have gone down. Another reason I don't believe sides such as Fulham, WBA, Swansea, Southampton and West Ham will get sucked into anything too troublesome. There are other sides down there that look in far poorer shape.

jase. you speak a lot of sense and are far more of a shrewd football punter than i ever expect to be..... however should watford get promoted on monday i actually think we will be ok unlike our previous premiership experiences the italians clearly didnt buy the club for us to go up and come down again. they are businessmen after all i would not be surprised to see an awful lot of talented players join the club on a free and probably we will start slow just like this year as they adjust to playing together but think we would probably be ok if promoted. they will get far more cash from watford playing top level football than udinese or granada. also zola should be a draw as manager and will find it easier to attract players than aidy boothroyd ever did and probably graham taylor too. just my thoughts but i think.it is relevant all we need to do to actually make it relevant is win monday......maybe i am just a fan talking though :s Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2

[ThemanwiththeSTATS]

Tony pulis has been sacked and I hope a new manager comes in and plays a much more attractive brand of football. It's hard to bet at this early stage before transfers and what not unless your taking a double figure price.

[AHughes]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation Agree with the early shouts for Fulham. After losing Dempsey and Dembele to Tottenham at the start of the 2012/13 season they looked really light in the midfield with not enough quality. Money is drying up with Al Fayed not as willing to put his hand in his pocket. They are an very ageing side with the likes of Schwarzer, Riise, Hangeland, Hughes, Duff, Karagounis and Berbatov all getting on they could really struggle if they do not inject some youth and pace into their side. Schwarzer really needs replacing this season as his form has dipped and he is really getting on now. Riise has not been as good as he was in his Liverpool days, struggling at times and yet to hit the net in the white of Fulham. Kieran Richardson proved to be a poor signing also with him not really impressing either since signing. Hangeland is not the player he was 2 seasons ago when linked with Arsenal and looks really slow and sluggish now with his partners in defence Hughes/Senderos not really that good either. Sascha Riether is however a good player and can be seen as possibly the best player in the defence. I really think that if they do not find an adequete replacement soon in central midfield they will really struggle as Karagounis is 35 and was seen as a short stop gap. Sidwell is not the player he promised to be in his early days at Reading, Enoh was on loan and struggled to make an impact anyway. As for the widemen, Kacaniklic did do well in parts of the season but was inconsistant and loaned out in the end during the season. Damien Duff had a decent enough season but for how long can he compete at this level now for his age? Dejagah was only on loan and didn't make any impact what so ever. Obviously Fulham are best in attack with Dimitar Berbatov and the forefront and Bryan Ruiz behind him. However, Berbatov has been incosistant at times this season and has looked lazy in games with an attitude. Ruiz in my eyes in not the player I thought he would be for Fulham as he has not hit the heights expected but has still performed to a decent level. Petric hit the ground running but the Bulgarian is now seen as back up and age is not on his side either with Rodallega eating up a bit wage packet with mediocre performances. And we have seen before with Yakubu at Blackburn and Johnson at Crystal Palace that just having a good goalscorer is not enough to keep you up. Fulham have been in decline since the Europa League Final in my eyes. Yes they have signed Derek Boateng already for next season and we will see how he does but Fulham have always had a notoriously poor away form in the Premier League and that will catch up with you eventually. They do not have enough pace and and freshness to really trouble teams from what I can see at the moment and I can really see them being down there.

[RedDevil92]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation I can also see Stoke getting relegated now that Mark Hughes has taken over there. He's no good coach in my eyes having failed to acheive anything at QPR and Man City. He splashed a lot of money at those two clubs and going to Stoke, a club without big financial background, I can see him fail even more. He wants to change their style of play but I can hardly see them being able to change their style as long as there won't be a major overhaul in the team.

[kusagwa]

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I can also see Stoke getting relegated now that Mark Hughes has taken over there. He's no good coach in my eyes having failed to acheive anything at QPR and Man City. He splashed a lot of money at those two clubs and going to Stoke' date=' a club without big financial background, I can see him fail even more. He wants to change their style of play but I can hardly see them being able to change their style as long as there won't be a major overhaul in the team.[/quote'] Stoke isnt a small club when we talk money. They are owned by Peter Coates founder of Bet365 and if I aint completly wrong they are amongst the top 5 clubs when it comes to splashing cash on new players.

[RedDevil92]

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Stoke isnt a small club when we talk money. They are owned by Peter Coates founder of Bet365 and if I aint completly wrong they are amongst the top 5 clubs when it comes to splashing cash on new players.

Yes, you are right, my mistake. Just checked their past summer spalshings. Nevertheless Hughes said he wants to change their style of play and as I see him as a poor manager, I think they could be struggling under him.

[Mindfulness]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation TBH I think it's going to be gradual evolution rather than revolution at Stoke. If you look at Mark Hughes managerial career his teams have been hard to beat above all else, rather than playing open and attacking football. The first question we should ask is why did Pulis leave? I don't think it was because the chairman wanted to change the way Stoke play, if that was the case I think Hughes would be the wrong appointment for them. There was a lot of reports in the media towards the end of last season that there were fractures in the Stoke dressing room between players, this combined with their involvement at the wrong end of the table may have caused both manager and chairman to decide it was time for a change. As for Peter Coates having the cash to splash, that is really neither here nor there in the light of modern footballing disasters such as Leeds, Portsmouth and QPR to name but a few. Stoke's number one priority is to regain cohesion between the board, manager, players and fans. The club clearly started to go off the boil in 2012-2013 and it needed a little something to freshen the atmosphere imo. Is Mark Hughes a bad manager? The QPR situation was not a good one for all concerned but before that I would have described Hughes as a solid Premier League manager and a good fit for a club like Stoke. I'm sure Hughes will analyse his time at QPR and learn from it, I wouldn't blame him for everything that went wrong at that club last year. Do I think Stoke will drastically change their playing style in 2013-2014? No. Do I think Stoke will be relegated in 2013-2014? At this precise point in time I have to say 7/2 doesn't hold any real value. It's good to get an early view on things but really with no transfer activity it is too early to start making ante-post bets at this point in time.

[wisey10]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation Far too early to tell what the situation will be with Stoke yet. A lot of players have been released and other key players such as begovc, Nzonzi, crouch/jones could be moving on. If we are prepared to spend decent cash on new additions we should be ok. If we only to try to replace them on the cheap it could be a disaster. Either way, the current price represents zero value and isn't worth taking IMHO. West Brom could be the value choice as they will really struggle to replace Lukaku. It's far too early for me to get involved on anything at the moment though.

[Jase82]

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I can also see Stoke getting relegated now that Mark Hughes has taken over there. He's no good coach in my eyes having failed to acheive anything at QPR and Man City. He splashed a lot of money at those two clubs and going to Stoke' date=' a club without big financial background, I can see him fail even more. He wants to change their style of play but I can hardly see them being able to change their style as long as there won't be a major overhaul in the team.[/quote'] I think I've gone the opposite direction to my earlire thinking. They were much more likely to go down IMO with Pulis at the helm next season as they were poor this last year and looking pretty devoid of any ideas. It was a brave decision to sack Pulis as Peter Coates has clearly seen he couldn't take Stoke any further. I'm only wary of whether or not Hughes will have a transfer kitty to work with. I don't think he's worked well with it at Rangers, or City. How much he'll get will be interesting to see as Stoke, despite the noises they make about being self sufficient, are still bank rolled by a very wealthy man. But as I say it was the right descision to take and they should be in a better position now under Hughes, but it relies on being given time, and being able to spend wisely. There's still question marks over the last part for me.

[THFC84]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation Sunderland to be Relegated 5/1 @ BetVictor - I can see Sunderland really struggling this season after narrowly avoiding relegation last season. Sunderland have brought in 10 new players with none of them having premier league experience except Mannone and Altidore but Mannone was only 2nd/3rd choice keeper at Arsenal and Altidore was terrible previously at Hull. Also the majority of the new signings are coming from much weaker leagues and i'm not sure they will be able to handle the step up in quality. Also, i think Sunderland have signed way too many players in this window and it will take time for them to gel. As an example look at QPR last season who signed about 10 players and everyone was expecting them to maybe even finish in the top half and they ended up finishing bottom of the league. Sunderland do have some decent players in my opinion with the likes of Johnson, Sessegnon, Giaccherini and Fletcher but apart from them i think their team is poor. Add to the fact that they have a crazy Italian in charge and he is bound to cause controversy and not in a good way, then relegation looks a real possiblity and at 5/1 i see a little bit of value.

[AaronCruicky]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation The way I see it, it is Hull, Palace +1. The value is predicting who the +1 is. Candidates: Cardiff, Fulham, Villa, Stoke, Newcastle & Sunderland. Benteke staying and Villa's youngsters gaining some experience could see Villa safe. Newcastle and Sunderland could go either way, got the players to survive but if results don't come they could fall apart (on and off the field). Fulham and Stoke will be down there as they have terrible away records and don't score many. Both do have wealthy owners, so can spend big, but can they convince quality players to go there? Cardiff have been knocking on the Prem door after losing in the playoffs 3 years in a row before winning the league last season. Made some decent signings, whether they can survive and establish themselves as a prem team (like Swansea) remains to be seen. Overall, Fulham and Sunderland look like good value there.

[thegodofbetting]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation Crystal Palace will go down, the question is who will be the other two. The Candidates are : Cardiff, Hull, Stoke, West Ham I think Cardiff and Stoke will go down.

[Fader]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation lol sorry but West Ham go down? no chance!

[aliando]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation I might be speaking as a Cardiff fan but I certainly do not see any value in us with the relegation battle at this stage. We've kept the promotion winning team and added some quality signings throughout the spine of the team, plus there is the ability and interest to add further, if needed. 17th spot or above is the simple target this season but Malky will aim for mid-table. There will be an initial air of uncertainty around us in the betting field but I think we'll be safe enough come May.

[Aidymac]

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Crystal Palace will go down, the question is who will be the other two. The Candidates are : Cardiff, Hull, Stoke, West Ham I think Cardiff and Stoke will go down.

Why will Crystal Palace go down? Need reasoning and logic behind posts here please mate. West Ham are one of the toughest teams at home in the league, I sincerely can't think of any logic as to why they will get relegated, and only just signed Downing who may not have been great at Liverpool, but is certainly a good winger for them.

[clarky101]

Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation West Ham, with Downing one side, Jarvis the other pinging balls into Carroll will not go down, but with that thinking would Carroll be a shout EW for top scorer?... And before anyone says it never happened at Liverpool that Downing pinged the crosses in...that's true but it has to be one of life's mysteries that one of the best left footed crossers of the ball never did it...but now with the pressure off of the big transfer fee...I wonder..

[Jase82]

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Crystal Palace will go down, the question is who will be the other two. The Candidates are : Cardiff, Hull, Stoke, West Ham I think Cardiff and Stoke will go down.

On top of Aidy's request for better reasoning I've removed your signature link as you need permission first :ok I disagree about West Ham and Cardiff tbh. Both look well placed, and West Ham have made some very good signings. I'd say Stoke and Sunderland look to be lumped in with Palace and Hull for the three relegation places.

[Mindfulness]

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Premier League relegation battle 2013/2014

In my view there are 6 teams battling it out to avoid 3 relegation places this season in the premier league. Crystal Palace, Hull City Tigers, Cardiff City, Sunderland, Stoke City and to a lesser extent Aston Villa are effectively the teams in danger. Hull City Tigers Steve Bruce’s side claimed automatic promotion on the final day of the championship season in 2012/2013 through a thrilling finale. Hull’s success was largely based on an extremely organized defense and effective countering play which allowed them to regularly pick off teams 1-0, particularly in the latter stages of the season when they really needed the results. Over the summer Bruce has really strengthened the spine of the team with GK McGregor, CB Davies, CM Huddlestone, CM Livermore and CF Graham. These signings bring PL experience, good physicality whilst retaining and improving Hull’s countering threat in the form of Huddlestone and Livermore. I don’t know much about ST Sagbo but in general I feel Hull are lacking creativity and flair at this level, a huge amount of the burden will fall on FW Sone Aluko but I do believe he will be able to make the step-up which will be important here. All in all Hull will be organized, hard to break down while retaining a strong countering threat. Will this be enough to keep them up? I think converting 1pt into all 3 during home games could ultimately be their achilles heel. Steve Bruce perhaps faces his biggest challenge yet as a PL manager but out of the 3 promoted managers, Bruce has the most experience and I rate him as a good PL manager. 8/11 to be relegated is best price at the time of writing this, no value = no bet. Sunderland Massive upheaval has been the number one factor to consider at Sunderland over the summer. Di Canio is the most divisive manager in the PL and his 101% no nonsense, disciplinarian demeanor is bound to piss off established premier league players. The Sunderland side of 2012/2013 was disinterested and crumbling so something needed to change but there’s no telling where this huge overhaul will end. I like the siginings of CB Diakite, DM Cabral and R/L/CM Giaccherini while some of the others will probably have to do a bit more to prove themselves at this level. Sunderland has never been a club associated with stability or longevity at this level, it’s a club normally used as a stepping stone for players to get their PL careers back on track and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. When you throw the volatility of Di Canio into the mix then things can get very messy. In terms of player quality and indeed managerial quality then Sunderland have the raw materials to survive in my view but it will be a question of when the team will gel, if at all. Sunderland have the most work to be done out of the 20 PL teams to form a cohesive unit as things stand. 5/1 to be relegated is best price at the time of writing this, maybe worth a shot. Crystal Palace A lot of so-called experts and pundits have already talked up Cardiff and Hull’s ability to turn their home grounds into a fortress this year but it will probably be Palace who have the strongest home record out of the 3 promoted clubs in 2013/2014. A lot has been made of the departure of Zaha and his natural skill and ability to beat players will indeed be irreplaceable but Palace will make the transition to be something more than just a 2 man team this year. Holloway is intent on better ball retention whilst retaining ferocious attacking football in home games. Spain U20 captain Jose Camapana joins from Sevilla, his distribution and vision will help us attain the desired ball retention while the additions of Gayle and Chamakh upfront are very exciting for the club. Chamakh flanked by Gayle and Williams has pretty much everything you could want from a front 3 and I’m sure a lot of opposition defenses will show up in South London this campaign and go away not knowing what just hit them. For all the drive and talent we have in the forward areas it’s the defense which may ultimately cost Palace their premier league status in 2013/2014. Gabbidon and Delaney have a good understanding but they’re gonna have to read the opposition like the doomsday book when facing pace and skill, which in the premier league is nearly every team you face. Dean Moxey at LB in the premier league is just too disturbing to contemplate and Parr is not proven at this level so it’s an area of the pitch which urgently needs to be addressed as it’s a massive liability at the time of writing this. Out of the 3 promoted teams Palace have the most attacking flair and the most attack minded manager in Holloway which will serve us well in the cauldron of Selhurst but the defence will simply not stand up to scrutiny in it’s present state. 4/7 to be relegated is best price at the time of writing this, worst value out of all the relegation candidates = no bet. Cardiff City Despite having big investment it was a huge achievement for Malky Mackay to win the championship with Cardiff in 2012/2013. The indigo griffins were almost unstoppable on their own patch last year and I would expect them to be dangerous in front of their home fans in the PL but make no mistake they will be involved in a releagation dog fight, of that I am almost certain. They have a lot of players on their books and in their first team which will have question marks over whether they can make the step-up to the PL. The Kim’s, the Noone’s and the Whittingham’s are in danger of looking distinctly average at this level while a huge amount of weight will placed upon the young shoulders of Cornelius, needless to say I think he is a big talent and a good signing. Much like Hull I think Cardiff have a strong spine at this level but I feel Cardiff are likely to better at home. Despite this I feel Cardiff are still lacking a bit of bite at PL level while Mackay is the only one of the three promoted managers not to have managed in the PL before. 7/4 to be relegated is best price at the time of writing this, it’s almost there but not quite, would probably want 9/4 before making a play. Stoke City A horrible drop off in the latter half of 2012/2013 for Stoke and some are getting the impression that they are running out of ideas at this level. Pulis was ready to make a stylistic overhaul but the chairmen felt Mark Hughes is better placed to make the gradual transition. In terms of the market it’s only really LB Erik Pieters that will look to immediately improve the first team. At the time of writing this Stoke have been uninspiring in the market and Hughes will need to make a couple more significant acquisitions if he is to shake off the hangover from last season. Once again Stoke will be very hard to beat on their own patch but desperately need more creativity and ideas. 10/3 to be relegated is best price at the time of writing this, poor value = no bet. Aston Villa The most progressive and cohesive out of all the relegation candidates this year. Villa are half a step ahead of their competitors at the time of writing this and I expect good things from Paul Lambert in the years to come. Despite this they are still a relatively young side playing for a big club and this summers market acquisitions haven’t really yielded any further PL experience. The club are heavily reliant on Benteke, an injury to him could prove very costly while Villa supporters may not have the appetite for another relegation dog fight which could add pressure. Villa will need to start the season strong here otherwise it could be another long season, despite this I expect them to progress this year but when you look at how Norwich and Southampton have improved, it’s hard to see who Villa will supersede. 8/1 to be relegated is best price at the time of writing this, anyone for a long shot?

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Re: Antepost > Premier League Relegation 3pts Stoke to be relegated 3/1 Ladbrokes One side who lack an out and out goal threat is Stoke City and I think that can see them struggle. Mark Hughes takes over this season and while I don’t necessarily think he is a bad manager, it is hard to implement a new style especially one so different from the one which Stoke played under Tony Pulis. There isn’t a player in the Stoke squad who I look at and think ‘they’ll score 15 goals’ and while Stoke are tight at the back you need goals to survive in this league. I’m not convinced Stoke will have enough of them so they could be the third team to go. Full preview here: http://www.punterslounge.com/premier-league-betting-stoke-s-lack-of-goals-could-see-their-premier-league-life-come-to-an-end