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Liverpool v Chelsea > Sun 21st April


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Re: Liverpool v Chelsea > Sun 21st April Sorry for continuing the off-topic on this thread that should be dead already. First, ridiculing another member by people who didn't contribute with anything is disgrace. Also, some people have to understand that winning in betting in the long term is not about winning your next pick - you ain't a Nostradamus in the end - it is about trying to make the right picks "ex-ante" which can assure you good results in the long run, regardless of bad luck streaks. These people not only don't put effort in making their own analysis and rely simply on borrowing others' tips, but they have the expectation that every such tip should bring them easy money and "hunt down" the tipster when it doesn't. It just doesn't work like this. And if you want a 100% sure winning tip, here is one for you - bet that Nadal will win his first game at Barcelona at coefficient of......1.010. Second, about Liverpool and Benites, as a foreign sympathizer of Pool, I have to say I have observed this trend of non-English and non-Merseyside supporters of Liverpool generally to dislike and disprove of the Spaniard, while the local Merseyside fans glorify him. I believe it is a question of different perspectives, with each of the two sides having their pros and cons. It is obviously very hard for foreign fans of Liverpool to recognize in its depth the club philosophy, whose main fundament is the figure of the manager who is on piedestal at this club, as well as the value that local Liverpool supporters assign to the virtue of loyalty. On the other hand, it is really hard for Merseyside-based Liverpool fans to get "outside the box" and get a real perspective regarding how the club's functioning looks from a more neutral point of view. Thus, sometimes such fans fail to notice very obvious mistakes and shortcoming of particular managers, that each neutral observers sees.

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Re: Liverpool v Chelsea > Sun 21st April

At the end of the day if you don't believe Benitez is a good manager you don't know a lot about football.
When he took over at Valencia, he already had a team full of class, and didn't have to build a squad. Canizares, Ayala, Baraja, Albelda, Vicente and Aimar. Since finishing 2nd in the league with Liverpool in 2009, he has been pants. He wrecked Liverpool, terrible signings and built a bog standard team, he sold Alonso which was bonkers. He took over Inter Milan and shoved them down to 6th place. And now he took over Chelsea, and Chelsea have been playing much worse under Rafa than when under Di Matteo. I think he was a good manager, not so sure he is anymore.
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When he took over at Valencia' date=' he already had a team full of class, and didn't have to build a squad. Canizares, Ayala, Baraja, Albelda, Vicente and Aimar. Since finishing 2nd in the league with Liverpool in 2009, he has been pants. He wrecked Liverpool, terrible signings and built a bog standard team, he sold Alonso which was bonkers. He took over Inter Milan and shoved them down to 6th place. And now he took over Chelsea, and Chelsea have been playing much worse under Rafa than when under Di Matteo. I think he was a good manager, not so sure he is anymore.[/quote'] That Alonso thing is always dragged up against him. But in fairness Alonso had been very average the season before. Of course Alonso comes out at says that he only left because Rafa tried to lie up Gareth Barry. But of course he can say that to keep the fans on side. In reality, once Madrid came a calling, he was always going. Yanks screwed him over IMO. He was always on a hiding to nothing at Inter, was very suprised he tool the job. He inherited Mourino's team that had just won the Champions League. That inter team had huge commitment to Mourino (see Matteratzi for example) and had reached the pinnacle. Whoever followed him in there was on a hiding to nothing. His main problem I believe is that he is seen as cold towards players. He expects them to do their job, and isn't one to be like a father figure to them - obviously the opposite of Mourinho as we can see from his relationships with players such as Drogba. I think this works against him with teams and players with big egos. And his personality doesn't endear him to the press either, where lots of fans form their opinions of managers from - someone like Harry Redknapp being the other side of the coin.
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Re: Liverpool v Chelsea > Sun 21st April

At the end of the day if you don't believe Benitez is a good manager you don't know a lot about football.
Why does he get so much grief? Any manager who can win the Champions League with Liverpool 2004-2005 squad has to be amazing. And he won La Liga with Valencia 2002 and 2003 he was on a massive winning streak until the Americans came in to Liverpool, messed everything up and he left. That's maybe what people remember, and now he's at Chelsea that was always going to end badly for him - top manager they are lucky to have him IMO.
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