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Player segregation - Regulars and Fish


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Seems a really scary idea gaining traction at the moment. The idea seems to be that fish are protected from sharks by pooling them at different tables. I'm sure it improves the experience for the fish (and decreases the cost) - but by making profitable play difficult/impossible, doesn't it remove the dream for the fish on what they can achieve? Surely hearing of players crushing tables and making a living from poker is what a lot of fish aspire to? That dream of getting rich by playing poker - if that's no longer possible, where's the fantasy? I suppose its away from the cash tables and STTs, and only in the MTT environment? I think it all started at iPoker? When they spilt the player pool in two - putting the sportsbook players separate from the poker dedicated skins players (is that right? I haven't really seen much about it - that was a while ago - anyone know how it worked out). A couple of days ago I saw that Party Poker had, without saying anything to players, started hiding tables from profitable players where there were a lot of fish on them. They're still supposedly testing it and working out exactly how they will implement it. (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/party-poker-segregating-its-player-pool-1305546/) From Monday, Revolution network will be splitting out their player pools in a similar way (not many details out yet from what I can see) (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28/internet-poker/intertops-poker-official-support-promotions-thread-1078789/index206.html#post37398268) I'm all right [jack], as no signs of anything like this where I play (Pokerstars) - but I really dont like what they're doing.....

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I agree, I'm always in favour of equality, there should be one level playing field all can play. That said, just playing devils advocate for a moment, it's the regs withdrawing large amounts of money from the Eco system that cause most of the problems. There needs to be a steady flow of fish to sustain the system which is why you get so many deposit promotions. Guess this is just another way that sites are trying to plug the gap.

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Re: Player segregation - Regulars and Fish

surely all the regs will stop playing and they'll lose out rake wise?
I think that where there are fish, then sharks will always find a way.....
Plus it will encourage multi accounters big time.
I think that's exactly what will happen - the rewards for multiaccounting suddenly go sky high and the risk/reward ratio changes......
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Re: Player segregation - Regulars and Fish

That said' date=' just playing devils advocate for a moment, it's the regs withdrawing large amounts of money from the Eco system that cause most of the problems. There needs to be a steady flow of fish to sustain the system which is why you get so many deposit promotions. Guess this is just another way that sites are trying to plug the gap.[/quote'] I can see that - but if you can't win, where's the incentive - its just like playing slot machines and no-one would ever be stupid enough to do that would they? :p
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Re: Player segregation - Regulars and Fish Only segregation they need to to make the game fairer for the "fish" is to remove software users from normal games and let them play amongst themselves. It would still leave something to aspire to for both sets of players. Software users would soon dissapear mind you as their game would become almost impossible to win long term due to the rake and their whole idea of profitability was based on volume. Conclusion- The world would be a better place.

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Re: Player segregation - Regulars and Fish Is this the thing Lock are introducing? Pretty much the death knell for that site. The word on the street is it's being done as a stop-gap to generate some cash so they can actually pay players who've withdrawn but never received their funds.

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