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[GreekExperts]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 ASTERAS TRIPOLIS-OLYMPIACOS PICK:OLYMPIACOS ODDS:1.48 PINNACLE Greek Superleague,Fixture 11 Stadium Tripoli,Capacity:6.430 Asteras absences:solakis,orozco,rubil,francu,arsenijevic(injured) Olympiacos absences:papazoglou,orbaiz,makoun(injured), ibagaza(doubtfull),mirallas(banned) Asteras in the debut of the new coach,tsiolis met an away loss from aek with 2-0 but with a good performance,the team had many chances and was weel organized something who left hopes for the next games. Now has again a very difficult game against olympiacos and will try to make the big upset. Olympiacos is coming from a big away win with 0-1 against marseille for the champions league with a great performance and kept the hopes for the qualify. In the last games olympiacos looks in great condition,the team plays very attractive and attacking football. In the previous match made a home draw in the big derby against pao in a game that was a lot better but was unlucky not to score in one of many of the chances and lost the opportunity to clim up to the top. Now with high morale and although has some important missings again,but with a big squad which showed that can cover them,will go for a necessary win to stay close to panathinaikos. There is a big quality difference between the two teams and despite the improvement of asteras,olympiacos who is in great form and in big need for the win will find the way to make it and we are bet on this.

[RocknRolla]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

	Saturday 26 November 2011	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	PAE Ergotelis v PAS Giannina (15:15 GMT)	2.02	3.3	4.5	102.03 %
	PAOK v Kerkyra (15:15 GMT)	1.35	4.8	12	103.24 %
	Panetolikos v AEK Athens (17:30 GMT)	3.5	3.2	2.44	100.81 %
	Sunday 27 November 2011	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	Levadiakos v Doxa Dramas (13:00 GMT)	1.9	3.25	4.75	104.20 %
	Panathinaikos v OFI Crete (15:15 GMT)	1.26	6.5	15	101.42 %
	Panionios GSS v Aris Thessaloniki (15:15 GMT)	2.71	3.1	2.9	103.64 %
	Asteras Tripolis v Olympiacos (17:30 GMT)	9.6	4.5	1.45	101.60 %
	Skoda Xanthi v Atromitos Athens (17:30 GMT)	2.31	3.15	3.6	102.81 %

[GreekExperts]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 ERGOTELIS-GIANNINA PICK:ERGOTELIS ODDS:2.03 188BET Greek Superleague,Fixture 11 Stadium Pankritio,Capacity:26.240 Ergotelis absences:jovanovic,junior(banned) Giannina absences:zairi,bagayoko,tzanis,bouzid(injured) Ergotelis is coming from an away loss with 2-1 against kerkyra in a game that was better in the first half,had chances and also has big complains from the referee who gave a very doubtfull penalty and after a red card something who led the team to lose the match. Now will try to return to wins at home against a similar level team in an important game for the team. Giannina is coming from a home loss with 0-2 from xanthi,a result who led in the fire of coach demol who also had problems with some of the players and now for this match will be temporarily the assistant christopoulos and from the next week probable will be coach lemonis. The atmosphere at the team isnt good and for this match will has some important missings something which make more difficult to take point or points from this game. Ergotelis is a well organized team,plays at home and need this win and we think is capable to take advantage of the problems of the visitors and take these three important points and we are going to risk on that.

[GreekExperts]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 PAOK-KERKYRA PICK:PAOK ODDS:1.36 PINNACLE Greek Superleague,Fixture 11 Stadium Toumba,Capacity:28.703 Paok absences:lino,tsoukalas,leonardo(injured) Kerkyra absences:none Paok finally made a win after 5 games against panetolikos at home with 3-0 but his mission was made more easier because panetolikos played from the 5th minute with player less,but after all was a good performance for paok. Now paok again at home and against a lower level team wants another win to climb up in the table,to show that finds again a good form and to increase the morale of the team for the upcoming match for the europa league against tottenham. Kerkyra in the debut of the new coach made a very important win at home against ergotelis with 2-1 but had the help of the referee and the performance of the team didnt impress at all. Now has a very difficult game at toumba and with better morale will try to make the big upset. Paok has some important returns and looks to overcome the bad run and at home who always is very strong will find the way to make another win,important for many reasons and we are going to back the home team although the odds are too low.

[GreekExperts]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 PANETOLIKOS-AEK PICK:AEK+0 ODDS:1.70 WILLIAM HILL Greek Superleague,Fixture 11 Stadium Panetolikos,Capacity 7.200 Panetolikos absences:belevonis,babaniotis,dentsas,seye, mezaque,pappas,addy(injured) Aek absences:kafes,lagos,gudjohnsen(injured), gentsoglou(requests to leave) Panetolikos is coming from an away loss from paok with 3-0 but has the exscuse that played with players less from the 5th minute and was very difficult to resist to his opponent. Now the newcomers after 2 games without win will try to return in winning way even against a big opponent as aek. For this match panetolikos has many and important missings and for coach tennes will be difficult to cover them and will be a blow for the team. Aek is coming from a midweek home win against levadiakos with 2-1 and has 2 consecutives,something that make more optimistic the people of the team and fix the previous bad atmosphere. The only negative was that gentsoglou requests to leave from the team because they owe him money and stays out of the team. Panetolikos in the last 2 games wasnt so good as was before the break and will has some important missings and aek although doesnt play great football,remains a big and experienced team and we are going to risk that the visitors will win this match or at least will get the draw and we cover on that.

[GreekExperts]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 PANIONIOS-ARIS PICK:ARIS+0 ODDS:1.98 188BET Greek Superleague,Fixture 11 Stadium Nea Smyrni,Capacity:11.700 Panionios absences:omo,rokas,riera(injured) Aris absences:sifakis,garcia(injured) Panionios is coming from an away draw against doxa with 0-0 in a very bad game in which the players of the team not shown willingness for the win and obviously affected from the problems of the team. The big financial problems who led the big star of the team,estoyanoff at the exit and also coach lemonis,remain and make the situation very bad as many players want to leave because remain unpaid for many months. For this match will make his debut the new coach of the team.mantzios,a former player of the team but an unexperienced coach. Aris at the other side made the first win of the season in the away match against ofi with 0-1 with a passionate performance and the first signs of the work of the new coach,probierz showed. The atmosphere is good and the morale better and now will try to continue in winning way in another one away match. The two teams going to this game in the opposite condition and morale and we think that aris who showed big improvements and passion in the last game can take the advantage of the bad situation of panionios and make another important win or at least not to lose and we are bet on that.

[GreekExperts]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 XANTHI-ATROMITOS PICK:X2 ODDS:1.67 WILLIAM HILL Greek Superleague,Fixture 11 Stadium Xanthi Arena,Capacity:7.422 Xanthi absences:dica,poy(doubtfull) Atromitos absences:karagounis(injured) Xanthi made a very important away win against giannina with 0-2 in a game that wasnt better than the opponent but played with more clever tactic and was very effective. Xanthi now with 2 consecutive wins stands in the 7th place with 11 points and is more optimistic for the future. Atromitos is coming from a home draw with 1-1 against levadiakos,a result which counts as a failure because atromitos is better team than his opponent but as the coach of the team said,underestimated the visitors and lost 2 important points. Now atromitos will try to cover immediatelly the loss with an away win at xanthi and coach requests from his players big passion and concetration for this difficult game. It will be a very interesting match between 2 well organized teams of the league but we are going to risk on the quality of the visitors that are capable to leave from xanthi with a positive result and to remain undefeated for 10th game,and we bet on that.

[GreekExperts]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 PANATHINAIKOS-OFI PICK:BOTH TO SCORE ODDS:2.35 BWIN Greek Superleague,Fixture 11 Stadium OAKA,Capacity 69.618 Panathinaikos absences:christodoulopoulos,ninis, karagounis(injured) Ofi absences:pitsos,bourbos(injured), mantzios,tavlaridis(banned) Panathinaikos is coming from an away draw in the big derby game against olympiacos with 1-1,in a match that wasnt so good as the previous matches and also was lucky not to conceded another goal in one of the many chances of olympiacos but after all remained undefeated in 8 games and with 6 wins and 2 draws stands at the top of the table,2 points above olympiacos. Now in a home match against a lower level team wants to return in the impressive performances and the wins and with good morale will try for this. Ofi is coming from a home loss from aris with 0-1 in a bad game for the players of anastopoulos but also with big complains from the referee who didnt gave a penalty and left the team with 9 players and with that way stopped the impressive run of 5 games without loss. Now has a very difficult away game with the best so far greek team and the mission will be more difficult because ofi will play without the best defender of the team,tavlaridis and the first scorer of the team,mantzios. Panathinaikos so far has impressive performances and great results and wants another one against ofi and the most probable is to make it but the odds are too low and for this we are going to risk that ofi will play with the same way as the previous matches,open game with creating enough chances and is capable to score one to give us the big odds for both teams to score. (in the last 5 games at oaka between the two teams pao has 4 wins and 1 draw but all the matches ended with both teams to score).

[TotoSchillaci]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 Looking to handicap olimpiakos in some way. Don't know much about Doxa Dramas except they are last. How big is the gap between the two teams? I know Oly beat Marsielle in France then lost domestically after that. Hard for me to get info and would appreiate opinion of someone who actually watches the Greek League Thanx :ok

[Maudit]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

Looking to handicap olimpiakos in some way. Don't know much about Doxa Dramas except they are last. How big is the gap between the two teams?

Well, the gap between the two teams is enormous, more than a division. To explain: - For Olympiakos, anything other than winning the championship will be a failure. - Doxa Dramas made it to the 1st division late last summer / early last fall, following a number of court decisions. Given the time of the confirmation, its owners did not bother much to strengthen the team. Greek journalists have commented that Doxa is simply aiming at the tv contract compensation predicted for playing in the 1st division. Personally, I took the -1.75 AHC, when it was available at 1.84. However, one must keep in mind that: - Drama will play ultra-defensively, even if they are a goal down. - Olympiakos' players are somewhat tired from the consecutive matches. - Olympiakos' coach may rotate the squad a bit. In the plus side, Olympiakos suffered a bad defeat last Sunday, so, the players must do something to make the fans forget about it. I hope this is helpful. Ciao, M. ;)

[TotoSchillaci]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

Well, the gap between the two teams is enormous, more than a division. To explain: - For Olympiakos, anything other than winning the championship will be a failure. - Doxa Dramas made it to the 1st division late last summer / early last fall, following a number of court decisions. Given the time of the confirmation, its owners did not bother much to strengthen the team. Greek journalists have commented that Doxa is simply aiming at the tv contract compensation predicted for playing in the 1st division. Personally, I took the -1.75 AHC, when it was available at 1.84. However, one must keep in mind that: - Drama will play ultra-defensively, even if they are a goal down. - Olympiakos' players are somewhat tired from the consecutive matches. - Olympiakos' coach may rotate the squad a bit. In the plus side, Olympiakos suffered a bad defeat last Sunday, so, the players must do something to make the fans forget about it. I hope this is helpful. Ciao, M. ;)

Just what I was looking for. Thanks very much and goodluck.

[RocknRolla]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

	Saturday 3 December 2011	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	OFI Crete v Asteras Tripolis (14:30 GMT)	2.12	3.2	4.5	100.64 %
	Atromitos Athens v PAE Ergotelis (15:15 GMT)	1.87	3.3	5	103.78 %
	Olympiacos v Panetolikos (17:30 GMT)	1.2	7.6	23	100.84 %
	Sunday 4 December 2011	Home	Draw	Away	BPP
	AEK Athens v Kerkyra (13:00 GMT)	1.36	5.5	13	99.40 %
	Doxa Dramas v Skoda Xanthi (13:00 GMT)	4	3.3	2.25	99.75 %
	Levadiakos v Panionios GSS (15:15 GMT)	2.37	3.2	3.3	103.66 %
	PAS Giannina v PAOK (15:15 GMT)	3.75	3.2	2.3	101.39 %
	Aris Thessaloniki v Panathinaikos (17:30 GMT)	4.5	3.4	1.99	101.89 %

[dak]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 Doxa Dramas - Xanthi: Xanthi @ 1.90 (Blue Square) 10/10 Doxa Dramas is newly promoted and hasn't indicated any particular ability in its matches thus far. In the last three matches the team has only scored 1 goal. Xanthi is in a 3 match winning streak and has a better quality roster. The odds have drifted from about 2.30 but are still, I think, good enough for the risk. Giannina - PAOK: PAOK @ 2.25 (Blue Square) 10/10 PAOK is coming off a great win in London against Tottenham that assured the team's qualification to the next round of the Europa League. Yes, the team may be fatigued by the affair, but PAOK has a better roster than Giannina and will have a positive mindset in this match given the recent success. Furthermore, Giannina's recent form is very poor (0-1-4) and the team does not have a permanent coach at the moment. The odds are worth the risk for PAOK's win.

[tamintl]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 AEK Athens Vs. Kerkira Pick: AEK Athens -1 @ 11/10 (William Hill) AEK: Position 3rd (22 points) Kerkira: Position 14th (6 points) Reasoning: AEK are hosting a weakened Kerkira side today. Kerkira are without 2 defenders, one of their best strikers and a goal scoring midfielder. I could not find any info for AEK team news. But I feel Kerkira are weakened enough to be no problem to AEK at home. AEK are unbeaten at home. They have conceded 2 goals in 5 home matches and scored 9. My Stats: In 5 picks: +31 units Good luck: Post some feedback! :hope:hope:hope

[dak]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 Levadiakos - Panionios: Draw @ 3.20 (William Hill) 10/10 Both teams are coming off wins in their last matches. Panionios, I think, has a slight edge in roster quality but this is balanced by Levadiakos' home advantage. Panionios has never won at Levadiakos (0-5-7 record). Levadiakos has played three matches this season and has scored 1 goal in all of them while keeping a clean sheet only against poor Doxa Dramas (won 1-0). Panionios has a sound 2-2-1 away record. The last away match, however, at Doxa Dramas ended in a 0-0 stalemate. Nothing points clearly to a win for either side and I expect a tight 0-0 or 1-1 draw.

[tamintl]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

AEK Athens Vs. Kerkira Pick: AEK Athens -1 @ 11/10 (William Hill) AEK: Position 3rd (22 points) Kerkira: Position 14th (6 points) Reasoning: AEK are hosting a weakened Kerkira side today. Kerkira are without 2 defenders, one of their best strikers and a goal scoring midfielder. I could not find any info for AEK team news. But I feel Kerkira are weakened enough to be no problem to AEK at home. AEK are unbeaten at home. They have conceded 2 goals in 5 home matches and scored 9. My Stats: In 5 picks: +31 units Good luck: Post some feedback! :hope:hope:hope

1-0 Final result! Slightly unfortunate. AEK were dominating the game. Also had 3 penalty shouts not given. Ah well was a close one.

[sportxtipster]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 Aris vs Panathinaikos Away side has been lately in a great form and the results are proving it. Winning to PAOK, Wanthi and drawing to Panathinaikops is never easy and they have done it. In fact they are undefeated on away games, with 2 draws and 4 wins. Aris is on relegation battle, a big delusion! The games have been very tight always between these two with Pao winning 1-0 regularly. away -0.5 AH @ 2.05 with Pinnacle Sports

[Maudit]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 A "somewhat early" pick on the Greek 1st division match scheduled for Wednesday, 07/12/2011: Doxa Dramas - OFI: AW @ 1.85 (Interwetten) 6/10. I will continue fading Doxa Dramas, a team that does not have the quality to be in the Greek 1st division, as explained in an earlier post. The relevant issues: - Doxa is indeed very weak, having not been reinforced since it was decided (early this fall, by the court) that it would play in the 1st division. Indeed, at the moment, it would be a good 2nd division team. - The Doxa players must also be suffering from fatigue, this being their 4th match in 15 days, a schedule to which they are not so accustomed. Add the strange end of the last season (the 2nd division playoffs took place late in July), which made a proper summer training impossible. - No home advantage for Doxa, as they play in Thessaloniki, rather than in Drama, in a big stadium (capacity of ca 30k spectators) that will be empty. - OFI made it to the 1st division last summer, via the playoff matches. Unlike Doxa, it strengthened its squad; and it is now at the 7th place, trailing teams that have played 1 or 2 more matches. This is a match that they must win, to achieve their season aims (staying away from the relegation zone, finishing high in the middle of the table). - Last year, for the 2nd division, OFI won 10 points in 4 matches with Doxa (reg season and playoffs). In the end, I expect Doxa to play ultra-defensively, as they have been doing so far (for a score of 0-9 in 4 games). But OFI appears to have enough firepower (15 goals in 10 games, 7 goals in 5 away games) to win the match. At the initial odds, of over 1.90, I would have suggested a high stakes bet. However, the odds dropped quite quickly, so, only a bet at normal stakes. GL! ;)

[Maudit]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

Doxa Dramas - OFI: AW @ 1.85 (Interwetten) 6/10.

0-1 FT :ok OFI scored a goal in the 1st half, following an error by the Doxa goalkeeper. Thereafter, it controlled the game, securing the victory rather easily. Obviously, it was not the most exciting match to watch... Some early thoughts for next weekend: I like Panathinaikos, at 1.75 (BWIN), against Panionios, a team that is getting closer and closer to bankruptcy and that will be missing one of its most important players (Riera). I also like Erotelis -1.25 AH (at 1.90, Pinnacle), against Doxa Dramas; and Olympiakos -1.25 AH (at 2.02, 188Bet), against Kerkyra. But these choices are somewhat risky, because of the handicap, which is tricky, given that the opposing teams will adopt very defensive tactics throughout the match. Some of the other matches are also interesting; but I need to think more about them. I will try to write tomorrow or on Friday. :)

[martin239]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

0-1 FT :ok OFI scored a goal in the 1st half, following an error by the Doxa goalkeeper. Thereafter, it controlled the game, securing the victory rather easily. Obviously, it was not the most exciting match to watch... Some early thoughts for next weekend: I like Panathinaikos, at 1.75 (BWIN), against Panionios, a team that is getting closer and closer to bankruptcy and that will be missing one of its most important players (Riera). I also like Erotelis -1.25 AH (at 1.90, Pinnacle), against Doxa Dramas; and Olympiakos -1.25 AH (at 2.02, 188Bet), against Kerkyra. But these choices are somewhat risky, because of the handicap, which is tricky, given that the opposing teams will adopt very defensive tactics throughout the match. Some of the other matches are also interesting; but I need to think more about them. I will try to write tomorrow or on Friday. :)

What do you think of Erotelis to win to nil @ 1.91 w/ William Hill?

[Maudit]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 A quick update: Although the odds for Panathinaikos have decreased to ca. 1.65, there is still some value in them. This is not so much because of the quality of Panathinaikos, which, in my opinion, has been somewhat exaggerated by the Greek press; but rather because of the problems of Panionios, which is in the process of "downsizing", releasing expensive players (Estoyanoff, possibly Kumordji; others to follow) and its coach (Lemonis). Plus, Panionios is going to miss some important players (Riera, Omo, Jonnson). For Olympiakos, at ca. 1.40, one might think that the value is in the side of Kerkyra, because of Olympiakos' absences (primarily in the midfield) and fatigue (the CL match against Arsenal being the last of a series of consecutive games). However, Kerkyra (1-1-3, 6-11, home record) is not solid enough to take points from the championship favorite. Plus, Olympiakos has already lost a match to a low tier team (Asteras Tripolis); repetition is quite unlikely. Ergotelis, now at a. 1.40, has become somewhat tricky, as Doxa has changed its coach. The new person in charge (Katsiavakis) is more experienced than its predecessor. Even though the team material remains too poor and the fatigue from the consecutive matches accumulates, I expect some improvement. (Well, to be fair, the team cannot get worse.) But I will be very much surprised if the new coach produces results rather away. For Asteras Tripolis v Aris, I cannot say much. Aris has been quite unpredictable, since it changed its coach: a difficult victory against OFI, succeeded by a bad defeat from Panionios, before an impressive victory against Panathinaikos. The team is still in the process of being redesigned, so, I would think of this match as no bet. Finally, I was thinking about Panaitolikos +0 AH, earlier this week, when the odds were ca. 1.75. This was because OFI did not really impress against Doxa midweek. However, Panaitolikos is coming from three defeats in a row (well, all of them from teams expected to finish higher), so, I am not sure what to expect. Again, no bet, especially at the current odds. To conclude, at the moment, I would bet: Panathinaikos, at 1.65 (various books), 6/10 Parlay: Olympiakos x Ergotelis, at ca. 1.90 (various books), 4/10. (As an alternative, obviously, one can combine all these suggestions in one parlay; or just any subset of them.) Let me add that, for Olympiakos and Ergotelis, I would avoid any handicap beyond -1, as Oly is quite tired from the heavy schedule while Ergotelis is not one of the teams accustomed to pushing for a convincing victory. Finally, Ergotelis to win to nil, at 1.80 at the moment, suggested by martin239, cannot be bad. Not only has Doxa failed to score a goal so far in the championship; but even the number of chances it has missed remains very low. And a new coach is likely to strengthen the defense first, before he attempts to improve the offense. Ciao, M. :hope PS: If you bet "Ergotelis to win to nil" at WH, I think that it is better to dutch the scores 1-0, 2-0, 3-0 (at 5.50, 5.50, 8.00), with a small cover (to return the money) for 4-0 (at 15.00); the effective odds are over 1.90.

[Maudit]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

To conclude, at the moment, I would bet: Panathinaikos, at 1.65 (various books), 6/10 Parlay: Olympiakos x Ergotelis, at ca. 1.90 (various books), 4/10. (As an alternative, obviously, one can combine all these suggestions in one parlay; or just any subset of them.)

A profitable day: :cheers Panionios v Panathinaikos: 1-2 FT Kerkyra v Olympiakos: 0-4 FT Ergotelis v Doxa Dramas: 2-1 FT A summary of the action: Panathinaikos did not play so well in the 1st half, so, Panionios' lead was not a surprise. Things changed completely in the 2nd half, with Panathinaikos scoring two goals and missing chances for a third one. Overall, not as easy as I thought. As the score line suggests, Olympiakos faced no problem. Unlike what I had expected, Kerkyra was too light, not as committed to defense as (Greek) teams at this level are typically. At the moment, Kerkyra is considered the second worst team in the Greek top league. Ergotelis started with a lot of energy, scoring an early goal and missing chances for a second one. Thereafter, they were content to control the game, until Doxa scored from a direct foul kick. In the 2nd half, Ergotelis needed to sweat a bit; but it got the three points. Overall, Doxa appeared better than in previous matches; but Ergotelis won more easily than the scoreline suggests. (I am only unhappy for the goal of Doxa. But "win to nil" bets always run the danger of such goals, against the run of the play.) In the other two games: Asteras won 1-0 against Aris, quite easily. It was a good idea to avoid this game; indeed, Aris remains quite unreliable. Panaitolikos won 1-0 against OFI, with the visitors missing good chances to tie the match. Looking forward to the next week. Still waiting for the odds, I hope that there will be quite a few good bets. :ok

[Maudit]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 Greek "Super" League bets for this weekend: - Xanthi v Panionios: Xanthi @ 1.80 w Interwetten (7/10) Panionios has been releasing players in an effort to deal with its financial problems, so, it has become very good fade material. This weekend, it will travel to Xanthi with many (and very important) absences; on the other hand, Xanthi has no problems. Add the fact that Panionios' good results away from home have been against teams in the lower half (or third) of the standings. Perhaps the bet of the weekend in Greece - I only fear that it has become a public bet. - Levadiakos v Ergotelis: Levadiakos -0.25 AH @ 1.92 w Landbrokes (5/10) Levadiakos has surprised positively, fighting in all matches it has played so far other than that against Olympiakos, last Wednesday, in which quite wisely the coach rotated the squad to rest some players. This match is like a 6-pointer, one of the "should-win" matches in Levadiakos' calculations to avoid relegation. With a complete team, they expect to fight hard in a very tight match up. Ergotelis, with important absent players (Budimir, Koutsianikoulis, Wisio, Oliseh), is very weak away from home. (For this match, one may want also to bet on under 2 goals @ 2.00 w 188Bet; or on precise scores 1-0, 2-0, 0-0, 1-1 and 0-1. Levadiakos is not exactly a team that will push to extend a lead.) - Panathinaikos v Asteras Tripolis: Panathinaikos HT/FT @ 1.73 w Paddypower (3/10) Considerable difference in quality between the two teams, Panathinaikos (which has no significant absences) should win this game. (Asteras will be missing Perrone, Bartollini and Rogerio, all regulars.) Still, I do not like the -1.75 AH at ca 2.05, so, I will risk on the HT/FT bet. The Panathinaikos' coaching team has expressed its concern about starting slowly in the last couple of matches; so, it is quite likely that the players will try to start with more energy and score a goal early. - Doxa Dramas v PAOK: PAOK only to score @ 1.70 w William Hill (3/10) I have commented on Doxa in the past, on how below par the team is. Last week, with a new coach, they appeared to be improved; they even scored their first goal in the league, albeit from a direct free kick. On Sunday, they face PAOK, in Salonika (where PAOK is based) and not in Drama, without any real home advantage. Obviously, PAOK is the big favorite, despite the fatigue (too many matches in the last three months); but I would not suggest a -1.25 AH. Even though PAOK is not as tight in the back as it used to be with its past coaches, Doxa has only one goal in 6 games, including games against much weaker teams. - Olympiakos v PAS Giannina: Olympiakos -1.75 AH @ 1.81 w Pinnacle (5/10) Olympiakos can finally concentrate on the Greek league, now that its CL matches are over. In addition, the team has had a rest, as the last two matches (against Kerkyra and Levadiakos) were really a walk in the park, with the action being over by half time. Some players are expected to return. Giannina, on the other hand, have been playing bad; last match, their new coach stated that he would have liked to change 8 players after 30 minutes. The coach change is likely to produce a shake-up; but it will take some time before it has positive effects. Overall, in the last match at home before the christmas break, I expect an enthusiastic performance from the Greek champions. - Atromitos Athens v AEK: Atromitos +0.25 AH @ 1.81 w Pinnacle (5/10) AEK has really surprised me. Despite all problems (financial problems, many injured players), they have been performing well, with the youngsters delivering, and scoring one win after another. Still, I am not that much impressed, as their opponents were either too weak (Giannina, Kerkyra) or unmotivated (Sturm, for the EL). Atromitos is definitely better than the recent Greek opponents of AEK. In addition, it faces no serious problems (only Sfakianakis is reported doubtful); and it is quite strong at home, with a 4-2-0 record (albeit against weak teams, in tightly contested matches). Finally, there may be some extra motivation for the home team, because of the cup final last season and Donis' earlier work as AEK coach. Overall, I think that the game is a 50-50% affair. So, at these odds, I will make a call for Atromitos. For this match, I also like another bet: - Atromitos Athens v AEK: Both to score @ 2.05 w William Hill (3/10) Most AEK matches have involved quite a few goals, unlike those of Atromitos. Given the defensive weaknesses of AEK (and the quality of some Atromitos attackers), I expect the home team to score at least once. In addition, Atromitos has conceded against weaker teams, like Levadiakos and Panionios. So, at these odds, this bet looks good - and in some ways, it complements nicely the main bet on this match. - Aris v Panaitolikos: No Bet Under its new coach, Aris has had both impressive (against OFI and PAO) and disappointing performances (against Panionios and Asteras). Indeed, the guy has shaken the squad, so, one does not know what to expect this Sunday. I would definitely not back Aris at such low odds; and Panaitolikos is not to be trusted either, especially away. - OFI v Kerkyra: OFI @ 1.84 w Pinnacle (4/10) AND under 0.5 @ 9.00 w Unibet (0.5/10) Of course, OFI is the favorite against one of the weakest teams in the Greek top league, in a "shoild win" match for the team from Crete. However, OFI has been on a downtrend lately; indeed, its performances against Doxa and Panaitolikos were mediocre, producing rather little in the offense. So, I am somewhat worried about OFI failing to score against a team that tends to play very defensively away (and has achieved 0-0 results against difficult opponents). Eventually, I take the HW bet at low odds along with a side bet that will return the money in case Kerkyra holds out. Notice that one player will be missing for each team, Tavlaridis for OFI and Kontodimos for Kerkyra. (Let me add that one may consider bets like OFI only to score (2.50 at William Hill), OFI to keep a clean sheet (1.75 at William Hill), under 2.25 (at 1.80, verious books). The idea is clear, Kerkyra doesn't score much, OFI doesn't concede easily at home.) Finally, a "sucker" parlay: - Panathinaikos x PAOK x Olympiakos, @ 1.97 w William Hill (3/10) As explained above, it will be a very big surprise if any of these teams fails to win. Hopefully, we will make money. GL! :hope

[FCP]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

Event	Levadiakos - Ergotelis
Selection	Levadiakos
Strength	10/10
Date	17/12/2011
Bookmaker/Price	Betsafe @ 2.30
Reasoning	Levadiakos is in a must win situation as they only got six points so far in the season. they are in the relegation zone and they prepared this game carefully, resting some players last week against the giant Olympiakos. They have no injured or suspended players and can't loose points at home. Ergotelis is in a safer place but today they will count with several absences, some them important, like Olise, Vichy, Budimir or Koutsianikoulis. Levadiakos use to get positive results when receiving Ergotelis and they just can't miss the three points here.

[jompy]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 Xanthi - Panionios Xanthi are 6th placed just 2 points less than 4th placed Atromitos. Xanthi is showing nice football and is having good run of 4 straight wins, followed by draw in last round. They managed to kept 4 clean sheets in these matches and in one of them at home managed to smash with 3:0 exactly the 4th placed team Atromitos. Xanthi recorded 3-2-1 here, losing only from Panathinaikos in goal festival with 2:3. They got quality and experienced squad and I see class difference between them and their opponent today Xanthi played well against Panionios last season, making draw at home and winning with 0:2 on the road. Panionios got huge financial problems and their best players are leaving the squad, or got injuries, which will affect on their performance for sure. Panionios won only once in their last 9 league games, recording 5 loses. They missed to score in 5 of these last 9 matches and I expect problems for them against such solid defense as Xanthi got. I expect home win here Xanthi to win 1.73 @ Coral

[KavkaZ]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 Xanthi vs Panionios Greece Super League, Time 19:30 Let's take a closer look this match, turn to the statistics of personal meetings. Personal meetings: 09.01.11 Panionios - Xanthi 0:2 (0:2) 12.09.10 Xanthi - Panionios 1-1 (0-1) 07.03.10 Panionios - Xanthi 3:0 (2:0) 08.11.09 Xanthi - Panionios 1:2 (0:1) 03.01.09 Xanthi - Panionios 0-0 (0-0) 31.08.08 Panionios - Xanthi 0:1 (0:1) 02.03.08 Xanthi - Panionios 1:2 (1:1) 11.11.07 Panionios - Xanthi 3:2 (0:1 ) 18.03.07 Xanthi - Panionios 1:1 (1:0) 20.12.06 Panionios - Xanthi 0:1 (0:1) ... last time Xanthi beat Panionios at home was back in 2006. Xanthi before this match occupy the 6th position with 18 points and are likely to fight for getting into the playoffs zone. Xanthi at home very difficult opponent. Of the 6 games the team won 3 of them, once they drew and lost twice, to - AEK (3:4) and Panathinaikos (2-3). Xanthi - last matches: 10.12.11 Xanthi - Levadiakos 1:1 (0:0) 04.12.11 Doxa Dramas - Xanthi 0:2 (0:1) 27.11.11 Xanthi - Atromitos 3:0 (2:0) 20.11.11 Geanina - Xanthi 0:2 (0:1) 06.11.11 Xanthi - Corfu, 1:0 (0:0) Panionis, this club is on 10th place with 13 points. Away game quite successful. In 6 games, the team scored 2 wins, 3 draws and one lost. Scored 5 goals and received only two. But here are the results have been mixed. Thus, from one of two victories over one of the outsiders Corfu (3-0), which occupies 15th place. But could not beat Doxa (0-0) 16th place, and Levadiakos (0-0) 14th place. Panionios defeated with only Asteras (1:2) Panionis - last matches: 11.12.11 Panionios - Panathinaikos 1 2 (1:0) 04.12.11 Levadiakos - Panionios 0:0 (0:0) 27.11.11 Panionios - Aris 2:1 (1:0) 20.11.11 Doxa Dramas - Panionios 0:0 (0:0) 05.11.11 Panionios - OFI 1:3 (0:2) Another interesting detail. Odds to win Xanthi last two days have fallen sharply, and on the exchange Betfair from almost 154 000 euros (to win Xanthi) were added more than 150 000 euros :lol Its choice in favor of Panionios with the asian handicap +1 Reccomended: Panionios (+1) Alternative Asian Handicap @ 1.70 Bet365 With regards, Abdelmalik Safin - Russian Football Expert tipping on the World's Best Betting Forum, The Punters Lounge Russian Football 2011/12 Thread on the PL Forum

[Maudit]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 A quick update with the three matches played today:

- Xanthi v Panionios: Xanthi @ 1.80 w Interwetten (7/10) 1-0, +5.60 :) - Levadiakos v Ergotelis: Levadiakos -0.25 AH @ 1.92 w Landbrokes (5/10) 0-1, -5.00 :sad - Panathinaikos v Asteras Tripolis: Panathinaikos HT/FT @ 1.73 w Paddypower (3/10) 3-1 (1-0 HT), +2.19 :)

Overall, a good start, with a profit of +2.79. Some remarks about the games: In the match of Xanthi, the visitors were much stronger that I had expected, despite their numerous absences. Still, Xanthi scored in the first half; and pretty much controlled the game until its end. Obviously, it was not a very exciting affair. Especially, the home team should have tried to achieve a clear score against an opponent facing so many problems. Unless Panionios is not as weak as I think. The match of Levadiakos was a very strange one. Ergotelis finished the first half leading 1-0, via a "funny" own goal, despite Levadiakos playing better. Throughout the match, there was a very strong wind. At the 55th minute, the lights went off and the match was interrupted for over half hour. After the game restarted, Levadiakos was not able to to threaten the opponents; on the contrary, Ergotelis might have scored a second goal. Finally, Panathinaikos entered the game energetically, as it was expected; and it scored a rather early goal. Thereafter, chances were missed by both sides; it was indeed surprising that no more goals were scored in the first half. The same picture describes the second half (in particular, Asteras gave a lot of trouble to the Panathinaikos defense); until Panathinaikos scored a second goal, after a corner kick. A third goal followed; and finally, Asteras scored a much deserved consolation goal. Unless Panathinaikos improves its defense, no match is likely to be easy. Looking forward to tomorrow's games! :hope

[cristianoronaldo]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 Sport Football (Greece) Event Olympiakos - Giannina Selection Over 1.5 HT Strength 10/10 Date 18/12/2011 Bookmaker/Price Stan James @ 2.50 Reasoning Olympiakos for sure can score 2 goals in first half of this match, I see huge value in this odds. Olympiakos not play in European Cups and think only about Greece league in this moment. Last two matches played on away, both won 4:0 and two times laeding 3:0 after half time. In previous season leading 2:1 after half time.

[Maudit]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012

- Doxa Dramas v PAOK: PAOK only to score @ 1.70 w William Hill (3/10) 0-2 FT, +2.10 ;) - Olympiakos v PAS Giannina: Olympiakos -1.75 AH @ 1.81 w Pinnacle (5/10) 2-0 FT, +2.025 ;) - Atromitos Athens v AEK: Atromitos +0.25 AH @ 1.81 w Pinnacle (5/10) - Atromitos Athens v AEK: Both to score @ 2.05 w William Hill (3/10) 1-0 FT, +1.05 ;) - OFI v Kerkyra: OFI @ 1.84 w Pinnacle (4/10) AND under 0.5 @ 9.00 w Unibet (0.5/10) 0-0, +-0.00 :zzz - Panathinaikos x PAOK x Olympiakos, @ 1.97 w William Hill (3/10) Won, +2.91 :cigar

A very good day, with a profit of 8.085 units, for a total weekend profit of 10.875 units. :drums :cheers Quick comments about the games: PAOK scored two goals in the first half; and thereafter controlled the game easily, without facing any danger. Doxa remains very weak, it will surely relegate. A rather sad story. Olympiakos played very well in the first half, mcreating many opportunities and scoring two goals. In the second half, the team was quite mediocre, sitting back and trying to counter-attack. Nothing really happened, the first half score did not change. Allow me to say, without any intention to provoke, that AEK finally showed its lack of quality; indeed, heroics cannot work in the long run. In today's match, Atromitos was never worse; and its victory is not be a surprise. In the first half, there was nothing worth remembering. In the second half, Atromitos was denied a penalty (the referee changed his decision after first calling it); but few minutes later scored (with the referee not calling a handball by an Atromitos player). Following the goal, the match became interesting, with AEK missing a couple of chances. In the end, a fair result. Finally, in the OFI match, one might say that Kerkyra was the better team in the first half. But OFI dominated the second half pressing for a goal, which never came. Good result for the visitors. A couple of matches, involving Levadiakos and Doxa, will be played on 28/12; but the next full match day will be in 2012. In the meanwhile, most of the Greek "Super" League will have its Christmas break. Enjoy! :cigar

[dak]

Re: Greek 1st league 2011-2012 Giannina - OFI Crete: Giannina @ 2.26 (Titanbet) 10/10 Giannina resumes league matches in 2012 on the back of a terrible run of 6 matches (0-1-5). This led to a coaching change and the hosts will have the experienced Angelos Anastasiadis as their new coach. Giannina has proven difficult to defeat at home (2-3-1 record). In the last three matches where Giannina has hosted OFI Crete they have kept three clean sheets with 2 wins and 1 draw (2-0, 0-0, 1-0). OFI Crete ended 2011 in a poor manner. The guests haven't won in three matches (0-1-2 record) and failed to score in those matches. Giannina finds OFI in a bad state and with the confidence of the coaching change has a good opportunity to begin 2012 with a win. The match will be probably be tight but a narrow home win is worth the bet at the given odds.