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Re: Black Caviar going for number 24, Friday 22nd, 10:45 am Live on ATR.
It's impressive to see how much the Australians make of this. A real event' date=' a special moment, to savour for everyone who wants to witness it. I agree it mightnot look like competitive racing considering how easily it does it all. But it just because she is that good. It's not that she beats nothing. She simply is so good and makes it look so simple. Like Frankel did as well. For me this is the pure demonstration of class and I think it's just wonderful. Watching a thoroughbred in full flight, travelling on the bridle under a motionless rider while pulling clear of fully driven rivals - it's just a feast for the eyes.[/quote'] Yes, well said. The way she is marketed there and when she races the whole nation sits up and watches is just great for the sport. We could learn a lot from it, although we did quite well with Frankel to be fair, and these horses don't come around very often -
Re: Cheltenham 2014.... In my opinion Our Conor 4/1 - 5/1 for the Champion Hurdle is one of the worst ante post prices I've ever seen. Not only have you got the 5 year old stat against you (approx 1 in 90) you have the fact he may be much better with cut, and the form of the Triumph itself might not be great. He was very impressive, but his time wasn't anything that outstanding even taking the ground into consideration. I doubt there would have been a higher rated 4 year old after the Triumph tackling the CH, but at those odds he represents terrible value imo when you think of the competition he is likely to be facing
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Re: Cheltenham 2014.... Big Bucks 4/1
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Re: Matt Williams selections on ATR Cheltenham preview show Apparently it's not going on the site!
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Re: Matt Williams selections on ATR Cheltenham preview show NAP - Super Duty NB - Can't remember Lay - MTOY I am sure it will be added to the main site or Cheltenham microsite in the morning
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Re: Tuesday 1:30: William Hill Supreme Novices' Hurdle He was around 10/1 before the Betfair 25/1 at the start of the season and backed in, then when Chatterbox beat him he went out to max price of 20/1 before coming in again You obviously don't think winning a competitive handicap off 149 easily is that impressive Aidy :rollin
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Re: cheltenham chat thread 2013 I don't think you will find any with prices You can pay for Timeform ones, and ATR has free downloadable ones, but not with prices. Due to the nature of the fluctuations I doubt these will be around, but I wait to be corrected!
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Re: Tuesday 1:30: William Hill Supreme Novices' Hurdle Also, Rule The World and Champagne Fever are the same price for their respective races! EDIT - Forgot CF was not right that date. Proximity form Minsk would say he was well off
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Re: Tuesday 1:30: William Hill Supreme Novices' Hurdle Of course good horse will come out of the Bumper though, I'm saying its not that strong when it was run. The New One beat MTOY in the Aintree Bumper. Hurdling is different all together. Pique Sous as an example is a terrible jumper, Waaheb isn't great. NYE has done nothing of note, Pique Sous might have won 2 races over hurdles, but both have been well below what you would expect. Moscow Mannion just got well beat despite money coming. Minsk was stuffed the next few times after Jezki beat him. Mala Beach/Bright New Dawn have patchy form at best. Aidy, you say TDS won a crap Grade 1 to make a point, but then go on about the Graded races the Irish horse have won which imo are also pretty poor. TDS won a Grade 2 and 1 by 6 and 9 lengths. Rule The World looks good I agree, and beat Cf easily as a result. CF has a good chance this year with how the ground is now. We agree on the price issue anyway!
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Re: Tuesday 1:30: William Hill Supreme Novices' Hurdle That Jezki/Champagne Fever form line, imo, is terrible. The bumper form last year looks bad now and Waaheb got battered at odds on the other day. Jezki hasn't even run this year, and AP has chosen MTOY over him anyway. They might be Grade 1 races in name but I wouldn't get too carried away with that when non of the formlines tie in to MTOY. Un Atout is interesting for sure. I've had a saver on him All imo of course!
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Re: Tuesday 1:30: William Hill Supreme Novices' Hurdle MTOY might have 'only won a handicap' but he has also beaten a subsequent Grade 1 winner comfortably after pulling all the way around Ascot, where he still found, and the handicap in question regardless of pace was competitive and he won easily. On top of this we know the owner likes to take the handicap route rather than graded with a lot of horses, he did the same with Darlan (although he didn't win the race last year). The stable have said MTOY is already better than Darlan was - not when he was a Novice, this season, and that if they didn't have Binocular in the Champion Hurdle he would be running in that. He is also rated, I think, 16lbs higher than your average Supreme winner. I agree I would not back him now having said that. Short price favourites have been turned over in this race but it could be argued non of them had run up to the standard MTOY has.
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Re: Tuesday 1:30: William Hill Supreme Novices' Hurdle I think it's because he is unlikely to be winning the race :lol He won't like the rain
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Re: Congratulations CH4....(but about time) Yea it was on RTE months ago. Still, fair play for showing it!
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Re: cheltenham chat thread 2013 It will take more than 10 minutes from Cheltenham Spa to the course with the Festival on, but yea, get their early and just soak it all in!
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Re: Banker of the Meeting Backed him at 25/1 (did put it up in the ante post section so not aftertiming!) Also then went in again twice as was around 12/1 but then when Chatterbox beat him he was pushed out to 20/1! I couldn't believe it. Was in terrible ground and they clearly had a handicap in mind with the ride. Crazy behaviour from the bookies. He is easily my biggest winner at the Fes
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Re: Banker of the Meeting Yea Sprinter Sacre is the banker :lol
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Re: Tuesday 3:20: Champion Hurdle I really have no stance in this race. Think the prices are about right and I couldn't call a top 3! Cracking renewal and I will be cheering on the Fly, but I just can't part with my cash on anything with confidence
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Re: Wednesday 2:40: RSA Steeple Chase
There always seems to be a short priced favourite in the RSA and in the last 3 years Long Run' date=' Time for Rupert and Grands Crus all failed to justify their short odds. However it doesn't look like a strong renewal and Dynaste has been seriously impressive so its hard to oppose[/quote'] That's what they also said each time before too :lol Tough race this. I like Unioniste in the Jewson but look likes this is his target and at his age it could be too much. Super Duty could improved for the (probable) better gorund and looks a dour stayer to me. Think he might be value if he lines up -
Re: Friday 3:20: Cheltenham Gold Cup Pretty sure Bog Warrior is missing the Festival
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Re: Daily Racing Chat Thread e fair he didn't want to go into the stalls, then missed the break completely and was never really in the race
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Re: Blast from the PL past! Haha - yes I went to this one! Was my first meet too. Everyone bowled into the Postal Order and I was on my todd!
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Re: Channel 4 Racing Why does everything need to be focused around punting though? Of course the betting is important, but the presenters are there to do just that, not to give people winners and ensure everything they say makes a level stakes profit
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Re: Cheltenham only 2 months away If you thought the PP meetig was busy Rob then stay away from the Festival! Been going the last 5ish years and im sure I said before, but last GC day was just far too busy, it was mad and seemed a lot busier than even the GC day the year before. I also went on the Tuesday last year and it was busy but seemed fine, unlike the Friday, and personally I prefer the racing on the Tuesday anyway Still I cannot wait. Fingers crossed all the horse make it there
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Re: Antepost bets & Discussion - Jump Season 2012/13 I have had a lot less ante post bets than the last few years for Cheltenham. Really struggling to find value, but one of the main things is a lot of the horses targets are a long way from being set in stone. With SS in the QMCC it means a lot more might go for Ryanair, might not. Simonsig in Arkle could scare off horses. No Big Bucks has thrown the door wide open in the World Hurdle. Tricky this year for punters who like an ante post bet
THE GRAND NATIONAL 2013 April 6th
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Re: THE GRAND NATIONAL 2013 April 6th I would be wary of stats like that for horses who are always targeted at a specific race like he has for the last few years. With horses whose marks are being protected I think you can dismiss a lot of the runs. He has won over 3 miles over hurdles before and is related to a few horses who were second in the bet365 Gold Cup