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Re: Another stupid idea from racing for change
I think the main areas that should be addressed are 1. Prioe of Admission 2. Price of Food 3. Trying to get a bet on Which are imo the main bones of contentionIt sounds like in your book there couldn't possibly be any changes that might improve the experience of going racing! 'Rod Street and his mates' (RFC to the rest of us) are creating publicity for the sport and whether that's perceived as positive or negative by regular racegoers it's still getting the word out to everyone else. -
Re: Another stupid idea from racing for change
Jay, it wouldnt be so bad if Rod Street and his mates actually came up with a decent idea, the "filly factor" raised the profile of women commentators, but Hayley Moore wont get on to the roster until 2013 at least, if at all, the event but was shunned by ATR as they refused to carry their commentaries live because the betting office mob would hate it, thing is before SIS ruled the world EXtel was the only thing you have, in Portsmouth where I lived about 25 years ago, we had women doing the race calls as Extel thought as a womans voice would be clearer down a rubbish phone line, but for me it didnt sound rightTabby seems very anti Racing For Change. I don't agree with everything they do and I'm sure many others on here feel the same, but at the end of the day they are trying to change people's perception of the sport and encourage more to racing. If attendances increase, then prize money should greaten, too. Surely that isn't such a bad thing? -
Did Rod Street ask for this? You may wonder what I'm on about, its when the race has finished and RFC now requires commentators to give a full list of finishers, trouble is some do and some dont as ATR fade them out no doubt SIS do the same Think its just another dumb idea
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Re: Annoying Punditry
I actually think Thommo is a liability to racing.. Anytime i dont get the chance to watch a race and have to listen to it on timeform radio' date=' you dont have a clue what sort of a chance your horse has.. "and here comes this horse, and this horse is staying on stongly (even though its a full furlong behind with a furlong to go), were neck and neck but here comes such and such, the man is an idiot when it comes to commentary..[/quote'] Ah my favourite subject Thommo, who appears to have lost favour with the people who book commentators, they are sending him to places like Hexham now -
Re: Great Leighs
I agree Gt Leighs was in essence a bold move but why did they plonk the grandstand in the middle of the racecourse, trainers liked the racing surface as it was within easy reach of Newmarket, in order to make it work the pricing policy has to be looked at as it was overpriced.I'd like to see it back. Certainly seemed better quality racing than the muck at Wolves and Southwell. -
Re: Annoying Punditry
Lee Mackenzie is the worst commentator for me. Starts raising his voice and building races up way too far out' date=' isn't easy on the ears either. He did the RUK King George and Xmas hurdle earlier last season and it was horrible.[/quote'] Hello guys Just thought I'd stick my head in through the catflap to say hello to you all, yes Mr MacKenzie has become a bit "shouty" a bit like former Inspector John Hunt used to be a few years ago, still think the funniest comment I've heard is from Martin "Bomber" Harris who heard Mark Johnson's American " HERE COMES FRAAAANKIE" commentary said "tonight I'm going to be commentating in the style of the Dali Llama! -
Sadly its Con Te Partiro for me, its been fun & entertaining with some interesting topics raised and discussed, but health issues are making my visits few and far between, can I thank those of you who thanked me in posts, and may I wish you well, maybe someday I might return so until I do, GOOD PUNTING
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Re: The Ann Stokell Thread
It might be' date=' but that isn't the reality[/quote'] I was just outlining the fact that she enters a race (thats her perogative) but surely you cant make it pay running horses with so much overweight that the horse hasnt got a chance of winning -
Re: The Ann Stokell Thread
To some it is The RatRacing isn't just about punting -
Re: The Ann Stokell Thread
Very strange indeed might do a bit more research it appears that she might have given up becuause of the constant overwieght she puts up and there are now guidelines in place to stop them putting up large ammounts of itDo you think she's given up ? She hasn't had any runners in 2011 She had 40-odd in 2010 -
Thought I'd start this early and see where it goes As you know every year the aforementioned trainer rides all her own horses, with varying sucess nothing is seen of her all year until winter raises its ugly head and puts the kybosh on turf racing so the sand-pit boys take centre stage, it dopes make me wonder if the exchange merchants book their summer holidays by laying all her horses?
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Re: Backing odds on shots long term - the quick way to the poor house?
I wonder if any of you can remember the woman who risked bets of £100,000 plus on the outcome of Cricket Tests as she said it was offering better interest than the banks then she suddenly stoppedDuring the early 90s there was a big article in the Racing Post about Harry Findlay (prior to his invovement with horseracing) and he was saying he regularly had bets like £33k to win £1k on snooker and tennis matches because they were sometimes overpriced even in his eyes ! For the avarage punter like us winning £1k would be significant , but most of us wouldn't risk £33k even if we had it despite a higher degree of certainty.If your avarage stake per event was £10 or less then it may apear to be pointless betting in events where they are that short. Findlay didn't explain his staking plan but i assume by reading subsequent interviews in later years he often put most of his bankroll on single events. -
Re: Becoming A Winning Player
I have to agree with what you say, as if you cannot concentrate about what you are willing to risk your hard earned cash on, you have to ask yourself can I afford to betI said the biggest factor adding spice to the mix All the research and form studying is of no use if a good thing gets stuck behind a wall of horses, gets a bad draw, rears leaving the stalls or is simply given a bad ride. What I'm trying to say is, there is no guaranted way of consistently winning, all you can do is know the facts, apply them and then trust the luck runs for you on the day.....:) -
Re: Placepot
Same formula for Quadpots, BTW does anyone do them?This is how i understand it.........using nice round figures Lets say each race had 8 runners so 3 horses are placed in each race that is 3x3x3x3x3x3 possible winning combinations (or lines) = 729 possible winning lines lets say that between them punters have put 100 pounds on those lines lets say the total money staked on that card is 11,000 pounds and say the tote takes out 1,000 pounds for its running costs That leaves 10,000 in the pool the dividend is 10,000 divide by 100 = 100 pounds the decared 'result' would be - Placepot £100 to a £ 1 stake, Pool £10,000, winning tickets 100 Now if you did 2 horses in every race that would be 2x2x2x2x2x2 lines = 64 lines. If all your horses were placed and you'd staked it at £1 per line (£64 total) you'd have 64 winning lines of £ 100 each = £6400 if you'd staked it at 50p per line (64 lines at 50p - £ 32 total) you'd win half the dividend per line if you staked it at 25p per line you'd win a quarter of the dividend per line The dividend is always declared per pound staked.........you get paid pro rata on your stake The odds of the horses make no difference - it's all about the number of winning lines. -
Re: Placepot
iirc the return is calculated race by race as the number of tickets reduce, after the pool is closed Freddie boy takes his 27% comission then as the meeting proceeds the dividend decreases dependent of how many favourites are placed, the odds of the horse is immaterial as its the numbers of tickets each runner has riding on itThank you for your response mate! Does it go by odds then? How does the odds affect the pay out, and how do you get people winning thousands off them? Thanks -
Re: How do horses get such strange names?
colleonges I thinkOne from the 90s but can't remember the full name it was Uranus ****? Mark Dwyer used to ride it . ( No pun intended .) Ran in the Scottish National . Tabby any ideas ? -
Re: How do horses get such strange names?
I know what the meaning of that is but it isnt suitable for publicationCrack at Dawn , which i posted on the wrong thread and ran recently. Another rude one , anybody remember Prince Albert from about 10 years ago ? Makes my eyes water ! -
Re: course specialist
Good points raised about Bath the configuration has always interested me with the bend inside the final furlong which can unbalance a horse going flat out to the lineJust to clarify I'll explain a little more. The tight turns at bath mean that a horse racing on the rail often has to change its legs to negociate the turn which loses speed. Therefore horses drawn by the rail are at a disadvantage but really only the frontrunners because a hold-up horse drawn on the inside would drop out and come wide. A horse racing wide of the rail can turn the corner in a wide sweeping angle thereby retaining its speed. At least this is what I have read in a few books. Perhaps it is now the case that the jockeys know about this and these days all the horses are taken wide at the turns. -
Re: Heads-up on Suspicious runner Dingaan
Not sure that Slade O'Hara would be my choice of jockey for a coup' date=' but good luck to the guy if today really is the day.[/quote'] Hmm interesting, of course Grayson wouldnt put up a named jockey that would kill the price, obviously he will he will be having it right off if it works -
Re: course specialist
Epsom 5 furlong course goes without saying is a track where you never recover from a slow start, the switchback nature of Goodwood is also one to considerI would agree with some of the cases put forward here. Ripon and Musselburgh do favour pace horses, Folkestone, Thirsk and Warwick are amongst others to consider. A front runner drawn low at Chester can often make all but a hold up performer from the same draw can be at a disadvantage, as they're often snatched up to settle and lose vital energy in the early stages. Sprint trips at Bath show no bias toward any running style but with the quirky nature of the course, previous course form is worth a second look. The five furlong sprint at Hamilton favours front runners. Blindly backing all such runners shows a tidy profit, whereas those held up have a very poor record. -
Re: course specialist
You are quite right about Hamilton its even tougher when the ground is bottomlessI think the five furlongs at Hamilton suits hold up horses because the first half is downhill and the second half is uphill I reckon front runners go too fast on the downhill (particularly in a big field where they take each other on) and grind to a halt on the uphill -
Re: Graham Wylie
Compared the the multi millions spent by the arabs & Magnier/Tabor/Smith McManus's it would be considered small fry, the thing is Wylie has £146 million of shares in his business so I dont think he is that worriedSpending 2 million plus a year on a hobby is trivial to somebody of his wealth. To me i find things like filling the car at £1.36 a litre painful. So basically i would have no idea what he's thinking. -
Re: Graham Wylie
But you have to ask yourself has Wylie finally woken up and realised that he was throwing money away, and only now got the sense to trim back his empire but it took something like this to do itQuite logical to have the best trainers when you are spending bucket loads of dollars on a hobby. Sounds like hes sending his donkeys to the glue factory and just keeping the cream of the crop. Racing Post were premature to suggest Gordon Elliot may be a recipient , bit unprofessional to get peoples hopes up. -
So Mr Moneybags to sending some of his string to Paul Nichols & Willie Mullins since Johnson got sent to the retirement home for bent trainers 13 horses will be stabled at Ditcheat the same at Mullins yard, 33 go to the sales and the remaining 11 will start in PTP in Ireland Wylie was quoted "I'll have the best trainers in England & Ireland"
Another stupid idea from racing for change
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Re: Another stupid idea from racing for change
Therein is where your argument falls down, you are only interseted in lining your pockets! Now I know why I wanted away from this place Mods can you delete my profile its pointless trying to talk to some people