harry_rag

And Zil's.

Following on from the recent discussion in the Lucky 15 thread, as requested by @Zilzalian and a subject that arises quite often anyway.
A thread to discuss the pros and cons and, perhaps, post any interesting examples for consideration. It would be good to see some acca or perm bets with 2 or 3 winners already up.

Following on from the recent discussion in the Lucky 15 thread, as requested by @Zilzalian and a subject that arises quite often anyway.
A thread to discuss the pros and cons and, perhaps, post any interesting examples for consideration. It would be good to see some acca or perm bets with 2 or 3 winners already up.

Might be useful for punters if this can be given its own thread "Cash Outs" if admin can shift @Torque points and my reply into it @harry_rag i will then put a real example sourced from PL using one of my own L15's

Van der Wheil! Seems to be an reasonable summary of it here.
https://classic.raceadvisor.co.uk/the-van-der-wheil-method/

Nope, just the original (I assumed). I'll find out if / when I win.

That is without the boost.
I think the odds on SBK are good, they certainly seem to be for racing. I've just checked against oddschecker for the England match and they are joint top on England and best on the other 2 options.
I am quite impressed with them so far, even though I've had to use the mobile because I can't log on to the laptop.

Also the RP tip and I've added it into one of my Bet Builders. Done the following to use or earn freebies. Not ideal to stack all of these up for the final game but was too busy sorting all those TD scorers out yesterday!  They should spread the games out more evenly across the weekend, no consideration for us punters!
McCaffrey and Hall TDs, Purdy interception and >1.5 passing TDs at 10/1
Both teams >1.5 FG and McCaffrey >72.5 rushing yards at 7/1
McCaffrey to score the 1st and 2nd TD in the game at 16/1
>3.5 total FG, Jets +4 and McCaffrey TD at 10/1

I'm following Mike Matusow's number 1 picks this season, he was 14/4 (or something like that) last season despite tailing off at the end and he puts a lot of thought into it.
This week he's gone for the Jets at home to the 49ers +4.5
I've taken them +4.5 (10/11 with Betfair).
 
Correction: Jets are away.

Is that the price with or without the boost? I quickly tried a couple of firms for the same bet and one was 5.25 without any sort of boost. 
25% boost on a betbuilder is reasonable enough as long as the underlying price hasn't had so much margin applied that it needs the boost to get it close to best available "natural" price elsewhere. Takes us back to the old discussion about how best to utilise such a boost. To be fair to 365 their BB prices were quite decent so the boost was of value. Some firm's have such poor pricing for the product that it wouldn't be worth taking them on even with the boost. I suppose we'll see where SBK end up ranking in that respect.

4 from 14 early on for a small loss but 5 from 8 later on for a net gain. 9/22 and +4.45 points to 1 point level stakes. The win treble tanked, I don't think I'll be pursuing that angle, but a reasonable first weekend so far.
13/10 Hall and 12/5 Wilson in the final game. Also done the double at 7.65. (Played a few quid doubles last night where best price was with the same firm, Etienne and Thomas obliged for a small profit, unfortunately the "trifecta" of Daniels, Robinson and Godwin were with 3 different firms).
8/11 McCaffrey and 15/8 Samuel both better than fair but not by enough to back. Just realised there's an exchange market for this game and taken a bit better for Hall, may lay it back later to improve my net odds.
Need to check the freebies/boost situation for anything that's "use it or lose it" so might be back with a few more small bets.

Apologies, should have been furlongs, today's distance should not be more than 2 lengths longer than the qualifying run
And yes, should be 8/1 (I got my decimal and fractional odds mixed up!)

Not sure I understand that one?
9/1 or 8/1 as per the previous post?

I'll start afresh with the new "system"
The rules are 
Speed figure of 58 or more
Weight difference greater than 0 but less than 13lbs
Distance not more than 2 lengths greater
Forecast odds of 9/2 to 9/1
Today's selections
COURSE TIME  SELECTION ODDS  BOOKMAKER Brighton 2.20 James Park Woods 2.25 BETFAIR Brighton 3.30 Libra Tiger 3.00 BETFAIR Brighton 4.40 The Conqueror 6.00 BETFAIR Brighton 5.15 Platinum Prince 12.00 BETFAIR Brighton 5.50 Zaltalla 3.00 BETFAIR

Well that was punishing for anyone that took the Bengals
 

England will face Australia in a 3-match T20 international series on Wednesday, 11th September. It will be live on Sky Sports. The first T20 will take place on Wednesday in Southampton at 6:30 pm. The other two matches will be 13th and 15th of September.
The Australian team will be led by Marsh, while England will be without Buttler. With Salt coming in and Brook likely to be the captain. Australia will rest Cummins, also. 
I think Buttler missing is too big for England. Buttler has the best record against Australia out of the whole team.  In terms of most runs, most 50s and most 6s. Australia have just come off a back of thrashing Scotland and Green especially looks in good form.
I'll be having a look for a betting angle later today.

6 points under 2.5 goals double
Ipswich v Fulham 2
Burnley v Blackburn 2.05

Yeah, I was thinking of sharing generally. The concept of only being able to see two posts is not necessarily unreasonable, the bit that didn’t feel right was that I put a link to a specific post but it just took you to the start of the thread and you didn’t get to see the intended post.
I guess the view limit facility is perhaps a blunt instrument in terms of how it works but it would be better if you could share specific posts in terms of potential “recruitment”, i.e. show someone something you think will interest them. The first two posts of a thread may not necessarily be he optimum ones for that purpose.

that would be good, i think down the line it would likely be like a "share post" type thing at the very minimum. Like I say, if needed I can turn it off for a day or so. We're looking at the next invision update too, which could make things different, with potentially better layouts, too.

Yeah, I was thinking of sharing generally. The concept of only being able to see two posts is not necessarily unreasonable, the bit that didn’t feel right was that I put a link to a specific post but it just took you to the start of the thread and you didn’t get to see the intended post.
I guess the view limit facility is perhaps a blunt instrument in terms of how it works but it would be better if you could share specific posts in terms of potential “recruitment”, i.e. show someone something you think will interest them. The first two posts of a thread may not necessarily be he optimum ones for that purpose.

Yeah, I was thinking of sharing generally. The concept of only being able to see two posts is not necessarily unreasonable, the bit that didn’t feel right was that I put a link to a specific post but it just took you to the start of the thread and you didn’t get to see the intended post.
I guess the view limit facility is perhaps a blunt instrument in terms of how it works but it would be better if you could share specific posts in terms of potential “recruitment”, i.e. show someone something you think will interest them. The first two posts of a thread may not necessarily be he optimum ones for that purpose.

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Yeah, I was thinking of sharing generally. The concept of only being able to see two posts is not necessarily unreasonable, the bit that didn’t feel right was that I put a link to a specific post but it just took you to the start of the thread and you didn’t get to see the intended post.
I guess the view limit facility is perhaps a blunt instrument in terms of how it works but it would be better if you could share specific posts in terms of potential “recruitment”, i.e. show someone something you think will interest them. The first two posts of a thread may not necessarily be he optimum ones for that purpose.

It's also easy enough to turn off the post limit view for a day if he wants to view the post. 

@harry_rag I wouldn't say it's pointless. The whole point is that people sign up for the forum. It's a free process that requires a couple of clicks via Google Sign-in. We are rarely going to put something out to a company that just want to look at the content of a thread.