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Punto Banco

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  1. Re: Hand Review: 12c/25c (FR) 3 Another hand.... ***** Hand 1321081852 ***** 0.12/0.25 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Saturday, 15 November 2008 9:34:11 AM Table TH 711 (Real/Cash Game) Seat 2: Zzsoli (30.13) Seat 3: RayPenber (39.51) Seat 1: HOMOKOIRA (36.08) Seat 5: giupoki12 (43.35) Seat 7: Zol13 (43.85) Seat 8: PITORREO (29.43) Seat 9: buttman88 (24.88) Seat 10: sergiokurt (17.10) Seat 4: mikotom (15.65) Seat 6: tarupp (25.00) HOMOKOIRA post SB 0.12 Zzsoli post BB 0.25 tarupp post BB 0.25 ** Deal ** Zzsoli [N/A, N/A] RayPenber [Qs, Qd] HOMOKOIRA [N/A, N/A] giupoki12 [N/A, N/A] Zol13 [N/A, N/A] PITORREO [N/A, N/A] buttman88 [N/A, N/A] sergiokurt [N/A, N/A] mikotom [N/A, N/A] tarupp [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** RayPenber Call 0.25 mikotom Fold giupoki12 Raise to 1.09 tarupp Call 1.09 Zol13 Call 1.09 PITORREO Fold buttman88 Fold sergiokurt Fold HOMOKOIRA Fold Zzsoli Call 1.09 RayPenber Raise to 6.66 giupoki12 Call 6.66 tarupp Call 6.66 Zol13 Fold Zzsoli Fold *** Flop(Board): *** : [4c, 5s, 3c] *** Bet Round 2 *** RayPenber Check giupoki12 Check tarupp All-in 18.34 RayPenber All-in 32.85 giupoki12 Fold *** Turn(Board): *** : [4c, 5s, 3c, 4s] *** River(Board): *** : [4c, 5s, 3c, 4s, 10h] *** Showdown *** : Rake: 2.90 Total Pot: 56.06 Zzsoli Fold Win: 0.00 RayPenber [Qs, Qd] Two pair queens and fours Win: 56.06 HOMOKOIRA Fold Win: 0.00 giupoki12 Fold Win: 0.00 Zol13 Fold Win: 0.00 PITORREO Fold Win: 0.00 buttman88 Fold Win: 0.00 sergiokurt Fold Win: 0.00 mikotom Fold Win: 0.00 tarupp Fold Win: 0.00 Calling for a call/reraise and plan on playing like small pair if called around... I wasn't sure here as I thought initial raiser was slow playing KK,AA however I think it definitely was -expectation to fold and at least if I check instead of bet I may get a bet out of them (If I bet and I am beat I get stacked if im not they fold... If i check and I am beat I get stacked If I am not high % of getting a bet out of it).... I encourage talk about this one as i have issues with playing high pp online... issues that I dont have in B & M (perhaps because at the levels I play the players give out so much info I can quite often pick a flopped set/ over pair fairly easily... bold statement I know)
  2. Re: 20081114 - Cooler Analysis - Hand 35 Yeh I only had a quick look using pokerstove.... didnt want AA mucked :lol
  3. Re: 20081114 - Cooler Analysis - Hand 35 I am a fan for playing proper poker especially as these donks start to think more they will adapt a fold first attitude... that can be taken advantage of but i guess until you see your numbers drop and the players develop keep doing what works... btw GAF these results could be AMAZINGLY useful... may even get me playing them.... if you can work out correct mathematical moves for these types of senarios it would be a massive advantage...:ok Edit: would certainly help for satelliting also especially as 5-10 seats paid are so common... EDIT 2: I don't exactly have time now as i am in the middle of a session however later today of tomorrow I will post up the hand I called all with JJ and also when I called the other all in with J5 and see what happens (If that is possible)
  4. Re: 20081114 - Cooler Analysis - Hand 35 Thing is as a basic tool I guess it MAY be ok to say he always calls but put simply you play is based on folding equity in the first place!!!!! I simplay don't see how you cannot factor it in... it will almost certainly make you play a greater % although i guess folding equity is opposed to the % of hands he calls with.... lol :$ So if you tag him as a 70% called your folding equity is 30% (I am kind of silly as you may have noticed :$) Have never really sat down and tried this stuff...
  5. Re: 20081114 - Cooler Analysis - Hand 35 I think you can start by limiting his range... also I think you have not kaen into account folding equity into you hand win %... options should be: Tournament Equity before hand44.604%Tournament equity if I fold pre flop39.719%Tournament equity if I shove, am called with any two31.855% You also need to find a way to calculate a median call % and factor your stack/equity result if he folds... Equity before the hand Equity if fold pre Equity if I shove, am called with any two Equity if I shove, am called with top 50% (Covers any A plus some so I think is reasonable but could extend to 70% or perhaps even do both and then asses on a player by player basis to find optimum play) Equity if Opponent folds (This is directly opposed to all other stats as he will either call or fold as will you I think that eliminates all possibilities of action taken by both players) ... I think that is right :unsure
  6. Curious I have adapted a new style of play now that I have gotten the feel for this level now (and after my failed attempt at stepping up a level) and just wondering if you feel this hand was Well played/ Lucky / both and really any comments... I have one thing to say is that with the way I played my hand I think that I have to try and extract more value on the river... generally speaking you want to make your opponent pay when your -EV plays come good... ***** Hand 1320980441 ***** 0.12/0.25 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Saturday, 15 November 2008 8:35:20 AM TH Mini 117 (Real/Cash Game) Seat 6: RayPenber (33.98) Seat 8: Tasetti (42.21) Seat 1: Difff007 (43.27) Seat 2: Paulo25 (25.33) Seat 3: KIZ&Lozi (5.57) Seat 4: Metal_King (25.00) Seat 5: vvolodya (34.26) Seat 7: ray531 (14.00) Tasetti post SB 0.12 Difff007 post BB 0.25 ** Deal ** RayPenber [7c, Jc] Tasetti [N/A, N/A] Difff007 [N/A, N/A] Paulo25 [N/A, N/A] KIZ&Lozi [N/A, N/A] Metal_King [N/A, N/A] vvolodya [N/A, N/A] ray531 [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** Paulo25 Call 0.25 KIZ&Lozi Call 0.25 Metal_King Fold vvolodya Fold RayPenber Raise to 1.25 ray531 Fold Tasetti Fold Difff007 Fold Paulo25 Call 1.25 KIZ&Lozi Call 1.25 *** Flop(Board): *** : [4c, Ac, 6h] *** Bet Round 2 *** Paulo25 Check KIZ&Lozi Check RayPenber Bet 3.09 Paulo25 Call 3.09 KIZ&Lozi Fold *** Turn(Board): *** : [4c, Ac, 6h, 6c] *** Bet Round 3 *** Paulo25 Check RayPenber Check *** River(Board): *** : [4c, Ac, 6h, 6c, Jh] *** Bet Round 4 *** Paulo25 Bet 2.00 RayPenber Raise to 8.50 Paulo25 Call 8.50 *** Showdown *** : Rake: 1.35 Total Pot: 25.95 RayPenber [7c, Jc] Ace high flush Win: 25.95 Tasetti Fold Win: 0.00 Difff007 Fold Win: 0.00 Paulo25 Fold Win: 0.00 KIZ&Lozi Fold Win: 0.00 Metal_King Fold Win: 0.00 vvolodya Fold Win: 0.00 ray531 Fold Win: 0.00 My play is to make stronger preflop moves with marginal hands IN POS hopefully take some pots down and stay out of trouble eventually a similar move may pay off with lets say a less than marginal hand... rinse and repeat... by the way this is very loose by my standards but I felt the particular Limpers had shown enough passiveness (Word?) preflop to loosen my range a bit I had often seen them raise with their good hands...
  7. Re: Cooler Analysis - Join me for a game I have never really played them and certainly never thought of strat.. just did what I thought was best... any specific hands.... J 5 anyone?
  8. Re: Cooler Analysis - Join me for a game I am not so familiar on how these networks operate... I have been only on stars for a long time... will I be able to join on Paradise?
  9. Re: t3nnis.tv invitations Have to love the Lurkers making an account asking for an invite and actually getting it after 1 post :loon :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap
  10. Not much to say in Strategy about these now just wanted to post them up and see If people have some ideas... I will just say that the Rivers especially hit me hard with these however they often do when it comes to unimproved High Pockets... ***** Hand 1314874965 ***** 0.25/0.50 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Tuesday, 11 November 2008 7:37:19 AM Table TH 556 (Real/Cash Game) Seat 2: loveli1e (10.25) Seat 4: Tom_cz (52.89) Seat 7: ermakeahPP (53.10) Seat 9: RayPenber (60.18) Seat 1: Clegane (19.97) Seat 3: OldRknight (46.75) Seat 10: Yawnage (70.67) Seat 5: JusuQ82 (61.63) Seat 8: lagama (53.45) loveli1e post SB 0.25 OldRknight post BB 0.50 ** Deal ** loveli1e [N/A, N/A] Tom_cz [N/A, N/A] ermakeahPP [N/A, N/A] RayPenber [Kc, Ks] Clegane [N/A, N/A] OldRknight [N/A, N/A] Yawnage [N/A, N/A] JusuQ82 [N/A, N/A] lagama [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** Tom_cz Fold JusuQ82 Fold ermakeahPP Fold lagama Call 0.50 RayPenber Raise to 2.50 Yawnage Fold Clegane Fold loveli1e Fold OldRknight Fold lagama Call 2.50 *** Flop(Board): *** : [Jh, 3c, 5h] *** Bet Round 2 *** lagama Check RayPenber Bet 4.00 lagama Call 4.00 *** Turn(Board): *** : [Jh, 3c, 5h, Ac] *** Bet Round 3 *** lagama Check RayPenber Check *** River(Board): *** : [Jh, 3c, 5h, Ac, Jc] *** Bet Round 4 *** lagama Bet 2.50 RayPenber Call 2.50 *** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.90 Total Pot: 17.85 loveli1e Fold Win: 0.00 Tom_cz Fold Win: 0.00 ermakeahPP Fold Win: 0.00 RayPenber [Kc, Ks] Two pair kings and jacks Win: 17.85 Clegane Fold Win: 0.00 OldRknight Fold Win: 0.00 Yawnage Fold Win: 0.00 JusuQ82 Fold Win: 0.00 lagama [9c, 9d] Two pair jacks and nines Win: 0.00 As soon as I see my hand and this guy limp I start in the chat box: "Man how can anyone play 99 like that... what is this 1c/2c" "Hahahaha" ***** Hand 1314878385 ***** 0.25/0.50 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Tuesday, 11 November 2008 7:39:02 AM Table TH 556 (Real/Cash Game) Seat 1: Clegane (19.97) Seat 2: loveli1e (10.00) Seat 4: Tom_cz (52.89) Seat 7: ermakeahPP (53.10) Seat 9: RayPenber (69.03) Seat 3: OldRknight (50.00) Seat 5: JusuQ82 (61.63) Seat 10: Yawnage (70.67) Seat 8: lagama (44.45) OldRknight post SB 0.25 Tom_cz post BB 0.50 ** Deal ** Clegane [N/A, N/A] loveli1e [N/A, N/A] Tom_cz [N/A, N/A] ermakeahPP [N/A, N/A] RayPenber [Kc, Kh] OldRknight [N/A, N/A] JusuQ82 [N/A, N/A] Yawnage [N/A, N/A] lagama [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** JusuQ82 Fold ermakeahPP Fold lagama Call 0.50 RayPenber Raise to 3.00 Yawnage Fold Clegane Fold loveli1e Fold OldRknight Fold Tom_cz Fold lagama Call 3.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [Jd, 10h, 5c] *** Bet Round 2 *** lagama Check RayPenber Bet 6.75 lagama Call 6.75 *** Turn(Board): *** : [Jd, 10h, 5c, 3d] *** Bet Round 3 *** lagama Check RayPenber Bet 12.00 lagama Call 12.00 *** River(Board): *** : [Jd, 10h, 5c, 3d, 10s] *** Bet Round 4 *** lagama Bet 10.00 RayPenber Call 10.00 *** Showdown *** : Rake: 3.00 Total Pot: 61.25 Clegane Fold Win: 0.00 loveli1e Fold Win: 0.00 Tom_cz Fold Win: 0.00 ermakeahPP Fold Win: 0.00 RayPenber [Kc, Kh] Two pair kings and tens Win: 61.25 OldRknight Fold Win: 0.00 JusuQ82 Fold Win: 0.00 Yawnage Fold Win: 0.00 lagama [Jc, Qd] Two pair jacks and tens Win: 0.00 Just for info I tanked a bit on both river calls but decided particularly with the last that this guy was at least a little rattled his bet was just too small to be anything but a feeble attempt to pick up the pot once a danger card dropped...
  11. Re: Oulton unban or not? :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol ... I am sure he will now....:notworthy On a serious note the fact that he asked nicely to come back rather than blowing up and creating an 'I hate PL... PL is the spawn of all evil' Youtube video is enough for him to be accepted back...
  12. Re: Mak has gone MAD :nana:cow :nana1000th POST:nana :cow :nana:cow:nana :cow :nana :cow:nana :cow :nana :cow :nana :cow :nana :cow :nana :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :drums :drums :beer :beer :beer :beer:drums :drums :drums :drums
  13. Re: Mak has gone MAD Next bets for tonight If they both win I can reach my target and start again...:hope STAGE 42 BETS OF $ 120 AND 1 BET OF $ 0.60 BET NO.MARKETSELECTIONODDSRESULTRETURNS1Almeria-Real MadridOver 3.52.68 2Bolton-Manchester CityManchester City 2.25 3Double Double6.02 Not sure why I bothered with the 0.60 bet but I felt obligated to...:cow
  14. Re: This must be +EV....Right? No probs I downloaded the eBook a while ago just have not got to reading it yet :spank
  15. Re: This must be +EV....Right? Could you point me in the right direction GaF... as you may have seen I am currently looking for all of these types of stats on paper atm. Any help would be well appreciated...:ok Note: To be honest I feel quite silly for posting this... the pure odds make it +... the folding equity alone here makes any two cards +.... any takers on that one?
  16. Even if you factor in the % chance my opponent has PP and don't factor Folding equity (Larger than normal due to Bubble) I say this play must be made... I am not a fan of 22 but I think I would do the same here unless I had evidence my opponent was calling everything all in... which certainly was not the case... ***** Hand 1300808948 ***** 150.00/300.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Saturday, 1 November 2008 10:24:23 AM Holdem Speed (Real/Tournament) Seat 1: RayPenber (2845.00) Seat 2: Unknown (0.00) Seat 3: jccgomes (1220.00) Seat 4: sandker (3435.00) Seat 5: Unknown (0.00) RayPenber post SB 150.00 jccgomes post BB 300.00 ** Deal ** RayPenber [2s, 2h] jccgomes [N/A, N/A] sandker [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** sandker Fold RayPenber All-in 2845.00 jccgomes All-in 1220.00 *** Flop(Board): *** : [7s, 4c, Ah] *** Turn(Board): *** : [7s, 4c, Ah, 10s] *** River(Board): *** : [7s, 4c, Ah, 10s, Kc] *** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 2440.00 RayPenber [2s, 2h] Pair of deuces Win: 0.00 jccgomes [Kd, Qs] Pair of kings Win: 2440.00 sandker Fold Win: 0.00
  17. Re: Classy Plays - Great Bluffs Only reason this is not classy would be because these two are the biggest dopes I have seen.... ***** Hand 1300787050 ***** 15.00/30.00 Texas Hold'em (No Limit) - Saturday, 1 November 2008 10:07:29 AM Holdem Speed (Real/Tournament) Seat 1: RayPenber (1455.00) Seat 2: JINKING1 (1515.00) Seat 3: jccgomes (1290.00) Seat 4: sandker (3240.00) Seat 5: Unknown (0.00) JINKING1 post SB 15.00 jccgomes post BB 30.00 ** Deal ** RayPenber [3h, 5h] JINKING1 [N/A, N/A] jccgomes [N/A, N/A] sandker [N/A, N/A] *** Bet Round 1 *** sandker Call 30.00 RayPenber Call 30.00 JINKING1 Call 30.00 jccgomes Check *** Flop(Board): *** : [6h, 4s, Ks] *** Bet Round 2 *** JINKING1 Bet 120.00 jccgomes Fold sandker Call 120.00 RayPenber Call 120.00 *** Turn(Board): *** : [6h, 4s, Ks, Qh] *** Bet Round 3 *** JINKING1 Bet 120.00 sandker Call 120.00 RayPenber Call 120.00 *** River(Board): *** : [6h, 4s, Ks, Qh, Qc] *** Bet Round 4 *** JINKING1 Bet 120.00 sandker Fold RayPenber Raise to 500.00 JINKING1 Fold *** Showdown *** : Rake: 0.00 Total Pot: 1080.00 RayPenber By default Win: 1080.00 JINKING1 Fold Win: 0.00 jccgomes Fold Win: 0.00 sandker Fold Win: 0.00
  18. Punto Banco

    Classy Plays

    Re: Classy Plays Edit
  19. Punto Banco

    The Mole

    Re: The Mole Wow people at this level are just like in casinos absolute muppets... how does he think he is repping the Q or A there... would you say at this level many would try a deceptive move like this with the A or Q or was this call based on you knowing the player as a 1st tier thinker?
  20. I could slave over pokerstove with this one however I have not time for that much effort I need a document that outlines % chances of flopping hands/draws with sets of hands preferably as detailed for each group as follows: AK, AQ-AJ, A10- A7, KQ, Suited connectors/gappers/dgappers, etc etc I feel I am lacking because I don't know these odds 100% and am continually guessing... it would be nice to replace a decision with an auto response every now and then (I am aware odds etc are not everything :tongue2),>
  21. Re: Kings Everywhere!! My guess took blinds in 2, other one re-raiser folds to a 4-bet...;)
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