Zilzalian

Your words are a bit harsh Roger we all have different circumstances and i applaud you for what you did. My wife, a bonny girl, had a tripple heart bypass and an infection thereafter, i have quite severe copd and although i managed with help from the kids and friends it was both mentally and physically exhausting.

There are many with counter arguments (with the exception of the double your bank double your stake, half your bank half your stakes which is a sound system) I personally i think you are in the wrong game if you can't take a loss or losses for the very reasons you state. If you have an edge and if it is slieght edge then reducing your stake removes that edge and gives it to sod's law. Also again from a personal point of view, if you have to cover bets you make your on a hiding to nothing and will lose even short term. the simple way is to identify your bank and expect or be prepared to lose it, that may sound counter intuitive but as long as your not pin sticking apart from pulling your hair out now and again long term you will enjoy the successes that you have far more than cry about your loses. The main thing about betting and in particular in my case on horse racing i have a simple answer to my critics and that is this, It is my hobby, hobbies cost money but in my case i can occasionally make money which i can't do spending my money on nights out or fancy dinners or nights on the lash. the moral is as they always say, dont bet what you cant afford or are prepared to lose. Yes i agree that taking a break is far better than reducing yourstakes because once you reduce your stakes you are in effect admitting defeat as opposed to reassessing why you are losing which you can do far better by taking that break.

If your fear of backing a loser is greater than your desire to back a winner you will never win long term.

If your fear of backing a loser is greater than your desire to back a winner you will never win long term.

SHOCKING....talking of forecasts the 415 punchestown just shows how much the bookies have murdered them over the years, back in the day it was normal to add one point to the 2nd's sp and times them. look at that result 20/1 1st 100/1 2nd and it paid 382/1 under the old system it would have been over 2000 quid people these days who get that up would be delighted with the 382 not knowing that they have had their pants pulled down big style. nowadays given all the excuses the bookies have come up with to cut fc and tc's the minimum should surely be a bag of sand for going against a well odds on fav. @richard-westwood

The only time I use speed figures are for sprint dirt races in USA , Gulfsteam & Tampa with rail draws are my most profitable , however , Gulfsteam now has a tapeta surface as well just to throw spanner in the works .

Its a good policy for small stakes bets but in group races i tend to do big bets so have to take speed into account i dont do variables i just use pure figures never adjusted it seems to work better, not sure why to be honest but it does, if a horse runs and wins 5 times leading up to a group race but has never produced a decent speed figure then it is a big negative for me. One great example was Tenby in the derby a good few years ago 1990 i think trained by Cecil 4/5fav and was beaten 23 lengths that derby was won by cecils commander in chief his second string.

SHOCKING....talking of forecasts the 415 punchestown just shows how much the bookies have murdered them over the years, back in the day it was normal to add one point to the 2nd's sp and times them. look at that result 20/1 1st 100/1 2nd and it paid 382/1 under the old system it would have been over 2000 quid people these days who get that up would be delighted with the 382 not knowing that they have had their pants pulled down big style. nowadays given all the excuses the bookies have come up with to cut fc and tc's the minimum should surely be a bag of sand for going against a well odds on fav. @richard-westwood

24 tricasts in 4 selections. 12 in fc in 4 selections ie ab,ba bc,cb cd,dc da,ad  db,bd, ac,ca. the tricast would have returned £333.00 to a 10p unit stake=£2.40 which would have wiped out your losses this year and change left over for fish chips and peas and your bus fare home..........

I don't bother with speed figures in the UK .
Which way was the wind blowing at Yarmouth today & how did that help or hinder the horses ?
How is different ground conditions taken into account ?
Way too many variables .
He's just a tracker horse over next 3 runs , I'll do probably 20 before June & just have a bit of small stakes fun .

AKHU NAJLA :
2.7 Million Guinea Kingman Colt who on sole run as a 2 year old at Leicester over 7f finished 2nd beaten a neck .
Had maiden run as a 3 year old today at Yarmouth over 8f & romped home by an impressive 6.5L .
Has loads of fancy entries , in my tracker for next 3 .
 

Tricasts will be rare ....but forecasts I've had huge amounts of 1st and 3rd... 2nd and 3rd ..from top 3 rated .....etc so forecasts from top 4 is definately feasible so its pays to put more into that ...while covering the tricasts for that rare big win ......I've improved the ratings so I think there will be more good results this year than ever before ....its already looking that way ...ill limit to the big hcaps or where the ratings suggest the divudend could be high.....just want to have some fun with it .....have the usual fun betting on the big races but with a shot at a good payout ...it just ramps up the excitement ......let's go for it and see what happens ....Will either win or won't....but I guarantee it will be fun trying 

heres what i do. lets assume 10p stakes for tricast, 24 (4 selections)  bets = £2.40 then do either abc correct order for 60p. or alternatively correct order abc and bca for 30p total cost 3quid you might get double lucky. it wouldn't have worked yesterday for the straights but you would still have had over 330 quid and change for the 10p always tc. More commonly i play with 3 selections 6x 50p fc and 6x 50p tricasts total six quid. had some whoppers over the years. Check back on ur bets to see how many/much you would have/could have won to see if it is viable for your ratings. like you said you dont need many at good prices to make good money.

heres what i do. lets assume 10p stakes for tricast, 24 (4 selections)  bets = £2.40 then do either abc correct order for 60p. or alternatively correct order abc and bca for 30p total cost 3quid you might get double lucky. it wouldn't have worked yesterday for the straights but you would still have had over 330 quid and change for the 10p always tc. More commonly i play with 3 selections 6x 50p fc and 6x 50p tricasts total six quid. had some whoppers over the years. Check back on ur bets to see how many/much you would have/could have won to see if it is viable for your ratings. like you said you dont need many at good prices to make good money.

Kicking myself now ....I shoulda done 1/4pt tricasts too ...only 6pts ...gonna factor it in in future on the big races just in case .. ...gives you a shot at huge payout for a few points 

Bet365 yes 

24 tricasts in 4 selections. 12 in fc in 4 selections ie ab,ba bc,cb cd,dc da,ad  db,bd, ac,ca. the tricast would have returned £333.00 to a 10p unit stake=£2.40 which would have wiped out your losses this year and change left over for fish chips and peas and your bus fare home..........

24 tricasts in 4 selections. 12 in fc in 4 selections ie ab,ba bc,cb cd,dc da,ad  db,bd, ac,ca. the tricast would have returned £333.00 to a 10p unit stake=£2.40 which would have wiped out your losses this year and change left over for fish chips and peas and your bus fare home..........

24 tricasts in 4 selections. 12 in fc in 4 selections ie ab,ba bc,cb cd,dc da,ad  db,bd, ac,ca. the tricast would have returned £333.00 to a 10p unit stake=£2.40 which would have wiped out your losses this year and change left over for fish chips and peas and your bus fare home..........

6 doubles in 4 selections but you need reversed ...so 12 .....its 24 for combination tricasts ....but I was just stating above that's only 6pts for 1/4 pt so I'm gonna include on big races in future ..  yest it woukd have won around 800pts !!!.. jeez 
Might only land 1 in 50 races but if its a biggy then it'd be worth it so sticking to the big races where prices are big looks the way to keep having a shot at big payout  . 

I did tell you....................now you will be addicted ?

I did tell you....................now you will be addicted ?

big prices? Whack the fc and tricast on that will get you addicted. ? I do speed figures and have always said no point in rating a race if you only go the winner. if i am accurate and the prices are big why not use all that time and effort you put in to max effect.....you dont need many to fatten the wallet.

big prices? Whack the fc and tricast on that will get you addicted. ? I do speed figures and have always said no point in rating a race if you only go the winner. if i am accurate and the prices are big why not use all that time and effort you put in to max effect.....you dont need many to fatten the wallet.

Often happens with these old horses when the race is perceived as weak as this one was with a dodgy fav. i quite like these races because they often produce a decent forecast if you leave the first 3 in the betting out of it. as it was i missed out by a nose in this one, needed the 3rd (28/1) 1st or second it would have paid over 150/1