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Zilzalian
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15 hours ago, LEE-GRAYS said:
Alright @Zilzalian @LeMale asked us to put our nap out of the 4 we have put up so he could back them ?
well my nap was same as urs ? FFS Lee whats going on with Quian? last time wouldnt load this time wouldnt race just watched replay i bet whoever bought that off Sheirgan is in tears lol and i bet Scheirgan is pissing hisself. you watch the fooker win at a silly price sooner or later or when it can be arsed.
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135 Donc quian 16/1 bet365
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37 minutes ago, LeMale said:
This thread seems to have changed a bit from when i first saw it a while back with just 4 of you. (it was good to follow) Are you guys going to start up again? It appears it's now open to anyone and if that's the case, hope you don't mind me having a go....
All with skybet and extra places. An ew Lucky 15.
1425 D - Broken Spear sp
1440 K - Naval Commander sp
1500 D - Commanche Falls sp
1535 D - Encourageable @16-1Not going to break the bank at current odds, a little short for me, but it is my first day back!
Its a bit of cheap fun with a chance of popping up with the odd decent payout, there is a serious element to the picks, i would hope its not just random. I think back to when i had very little money to spend on racing/gambling and the lucky 15 got me an occasional payday for small outlay where i could have an interest in the tv races. i would never encourage anyone to bet too much money on the lucky's 15 31 63's
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7 hours ago, Wanderlust said:
One final point on this, as there are so many differing opinions, its becoming a debacle.
Some people are getting mixed up with B.O.G and SP. I am in favour of abolishing the B.O.G, but think we should be allowed to take an early price. I do not agree with SP only, as part of the skillset of a tipster is to try and get value from the selection. But I agree that once you take the price, then SP is eliminated
I agree with the majority of what Justanotherpunter stated except, you do NOT need a 10 minute window for the oddschecker price. I use that App every day. Make my pick, check on Oddschecker and enter it onto the website. It doesnt take me 10 minutes!!. That 10 minutes will allow people to manipulate the system and wait for a horse to be backed before entering it on here at its original price. Whatever McClarke does now is working, as I do not see anybody blatantly cheating on the prices.
Happy to go with that.
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On 3/31/2023 at 11:02 AM, Zilzalian said:
3:00 Donc- The Cammidge Trophy is sparking my interest simply because of the ground, Personally i think super fit is the most important criteria this time of year in ground like this and 40/1 looks far too big a price to pass on Spirit of Light who has been running at G3 level in Dubai this winter is not going to lack fitness, okay we don't know how it will handle the ground but we do know it stays further so it might just get away with it over this 6F. The key here is the 40/1 (1/5th 4 places bet365) on offer as i write. I have had a couple of tenners on this animal and will reevaluate on the day as to whether a few more is worth a play.
Ah well thats racing you do all you can and they end up a non runner, I am one of those that think i would rather them run and lose than not know if i was right or not.
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Spirit of light is a NR so 315 Kemp Sleeping lion 11/1 bet365
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300 donc Spirit of Light 50/1 PP ew
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Going for the million today
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2 hours ago, calva decoy said:
No Regrets wins at 6/1 .
To back everything N.Richards has saddled over last 14 days would see you with around a + LSP of £30.00 ?
No regrets with that observation is there Calva? pity his other runner today was a NR coz i doubled them up but 6/1 was a bit of a gift even if to my eyes it wasn't as strong a bet as Huston Texas Its still filled my bank up a good bit more.
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18 minutes ago, The Equaliser said:
I believe @Gary66commented that it was a great idea. And it is
We all have different views on how we bet and what on but like @MCLARKE says a 1/20 odds on winner is always better than a 20/1 loser, add to that if you think a horse should be 1/4 and you see 1/2 offered you must back it to good money that's what getting value is all about.
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3:00 Donc- The Cammidge Trophy is sparking my interest simply because of the ground, Personally i think super fit is the most important criteria this time of year in ground like this and 40/1 looks far too big a price to pass on Spirit of Light who has been running at G3 level in Dubai this winter is not going to lack fitness, okay we don't know how it will handle the ground but we do know it stays further so it might just get away with it over this 6F. The key here is the 40/1 (1/5th 4 places bet365) on offer as i write. I have had a couple of tenners on this animal and will reevaluate on the day as to whether a few more is worth a play.
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12 minutes ago, The Equaliser said:
How you can possibly say that I am attempting to change the rules to suit myself is unbelievable. In what way could this be true? I am merely suggesting changes to improve the fun and challenge of the competition. It would be easy to exclude all selections that are returned Odds on at SP. I agree with @Zilzalianto put a ban on all odds on shots. I emphasise that I am NOT trying to stir up trouble just trying to improve the quality of the competition. If you believe for one second that when members are playing a tactical game in putting up odds on shots that they are doing so because it is their best bet of the day you are very naive
Ermmm was it only you that took my BAN ALL ODDS ON SHOTS followed by Yayyyyyy and a load of laughing emojis seriously? I think most who read that saw/realised that i was sarcastically having a laugh, well i hope they did.
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Didnt do as well this cheltenham as the last one. my £200 @7/1 Siskin went down so that hurt, Honeysuckle winning covered most of that one, that boost on constitutional hill to 1/1 was a bit of a gift. My saviour was Venetia Williams who had a moderate cheltenham I managed to get 50/1 greenbook ew coupled it with pink legend 50/1 and added Heros at 10/1 (doncaster) and Royale Pagaille (up 2nd yr running) so 3 from 4 placed returning over 500/1 meant i finished the week well in profit.
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42 minutes ago, harry_rag said:
I found some old notebooks today of my bets from 1998-2004. I couldn’t figure out why I was staking such odd amounts until I realised it was the last days of tax with the amount differing depending on who you bet with and where they were based!
It was interesting to see what I was betting on back then and who with. Stan James, Bet Direct, William Hill Index among the “dearly departed”. Stan in particular offering such low hanging fruit that it’s no surprise they’re no longer trading. (Betting on footy shirt numbers and not changing the prices when lineups were announced!) There was quite a lot of hay to be made in the early days of firms starting to bet on more peripheral markets in response to the spread firms’ offerings.
I was also doing a fair amount of betting in shops when coupons had some value (100/1 for unquoted scores that were never 100/1 shots).
A bit off topic I know but you can’t beat a bit of reminiscing!
Your talking to a bloke that loves reminiscing, I learnt so much from a very quiet old man (Lenny rest his soul) who always was sat in a corner of a small bookies, I just listening to him reminiscing and giving me indirect advice. So i think maybe now that i'm the old man and should share some memories and or advice.
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48 minutes ago, Gary66 said:
Il just give my opinion not wanting to upset anyone but I very much agree with the equaliser 3 winners to win the naps contest should be the minimum and odds on selections don’t count towards the total if we go SP I think that would be a fair rule also bring the same rule into the most winners best of luck to all always gaz
I can't argue with this at all and would go as far to say why not 5? But my view is more simplistic, at the end of the day it is a fun comp so i would hope that all members of PL should think they could win it and it does pretty much give everyone a chance to win even if its just through chucking a few darts at the RP. I genuinely like nothing more than to see a fresh name win it now and again. I am not sure what the average points total is but i have around about +40 (median) in my head @MCLARKE would be able to give that figure more accurately than me.
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1 hour ago, LEE-GRAYS said:
Yes your right there will have a go tomorrow ?
I have said in the past that my loss percentage goes up after i have had a decent win because for some reason i feel inclined to get a bit giddy and put more on and then after a while of losing i return to sensibility even to the point that when i am on a losing streak i control myself even more. It is only in retrospect that i look back and analyse my loses that it becomes blindingly obvious that i seem to like putting bets on more than i like winning ? I read somewhere that a gambler was asked what the most important aspect of gambling and he replied "winning", he was then asked what his second most important aspect was and he replied "having a bet". ? I don't know if you keep a diary of your bets but if you do you will see how accurate what i just said is. And Okay with lucky 15's we only mess about with £3-£6 but as you know it does add up pretty quickly especially when putting a few on per day. I don't think you needed me to have said all this but it may be helpful to anyone reading these posts who may be new to betting on L15....
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245 Chantilly Beryl the Peril 40/1 bet365
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4 minutes ago, LEE-GRAYS said:
Another bad day will stick with it lucks got to change soon
bank £10.50 -£19.50
Might be worth compressing it down to 1x L15 a day midweek Lee, works for me.
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1 hour ago, calva decoy said:
Nicki Richards string have been in good form this month & Houston Texas was 7/2 earlier in the day add into account heavy at Hexham is a true test of stamina , I think No Regrets who runs in Wetherby's 4.25 tomorrow is from the same ownership & around the same price .
It always amazes me how so much weight is put on a fav and the surrounding "noise", Like i said above and add on what you just quite rightly added and the fact it was N Richards only runner of the day and it just shows how people can become distracted from the blatantly obvious. That is not to say Houston Texas was unbeatable or couldn't have fell etc but my argument is that if people thought that it was a good bet for the Eider and many did then why or how could it be ignored in this class 4 run of the mill chase on a Thursday. Don't get me wrong i am not complaining about getting 11/2 for what i considered a 5/2 shot I am just amazed that i got it.
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Sometimes you see something in racing that beggars belief, Today in a class 4 chase at Hexham, Houston Texas won at 11/2 why does this beggar belief you may ask, well go back to the class 2 Eider chase where it went off at the price of 17/2, The Eider as we would all probably agree is a very competitive 4m 1 1/2f handicap and i am sure is on many a trainers targets for the season, More to the point many punters who i have respect for on this site tipped/mentioned it in various comments. Anyway thanks to "punters in general" short memories and lack of notebooks I would like to thank them all for letting this one slip under the radar and make me a months worth of profits where really it should have been a couple of days worth. If one retrospectively looks back at this race and previous form one might wonder why Twoshotoftequila went of fav and Houston Texas went off at 11/2, Anyway that's my musing for the day.
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8 minutes ago, The Equaliser said:
I am neither moaning or complaining, I was just engaging in a lively debate. Can you not see that? I truly applaud @Alastairfor using the rules of the competition to win "the most winners" aspect of the Naps comp the most number of times. The problem as I see it now is that many more members are copying him and then, usually for the remainder of any new month the comp becomes boring.
Personally, I don't give a toss whatever the minimal profit level is. For my part, I will just play along with trying to find Naps at decent prices 3/1 + for a period during the month, which I believe to be the spirit of the competition. Once I feel that I have achieved a decent profit level I may switch to odds on shots if I feel like having a go at trying to win it. All very boring but hey, if that's the way to win then that's the way to go ?
I seem to remember once you betting favs ew to win the KO cup am i right?
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