Clarke Phillips

That's two days in a row now you've copied 6 out of 7 of my selections. How about you post first tomorrow and then we'll see if we still get the same pattern? Lol.
 

1.45 War Lord
2.20 Knight Salute
2.55Clan Des Obeaux
3.30 Monmiral
4.05 Cat Tiger
4.40 King D'Argent
5.15 Law Ella

Swansea @ 2.15
Brighton @ 1.44
Man City @ 1.1
£40 treble

I'd like to play if there's still a spare place, please.

I have wanted to invest in the stockmarket for years but hadn't  the confidence or money to do so  or the know how if i'm honest but i  took the plunge near the end March  after covid struck and prices fell through the roof as i thought if i don't do it now i never will. I am  hooked. I am a total novice  but doing ok i  think probably should stick to ftse  safe stock  but  i like a gamle and have some aim stock. Have gambled on a Hydrogen stock  which was  and still  is in early stages   finding it time consuming and hard going but loving the  challenge. I wish we had a shares thread in PL i think we did years ago but i wasn't into it then i am now! 

I think a nap is the best bet of the day, not necessarily the most likely winner of the day. I assume that the day's shortest priced horse is the most likely winner of the day.
I often have quite a lot of selections each day often priced from odds on to long odds against. I treat them all as being value bets.
I have selected naps at prices from 50/1 down to 1/33 (I received plenty of ridicule for that one!). To me, they were all value bets.
Out of interest in the 3 days of December there have only been 2 win naps at 50/1 or above and these are from different players so this would suggest that people are not picking random long shots just to win the competition.
Also if I look at the winners for 2020 the average strike rate is 20% which again would indicate that it is not random long shots that are winning the competition.
From next month I might include a random long shot in the competition, don't worry, if this does come top it won't win a prize !

Surely the primary object of the exercise in backing horses is to make money and that is my point i make money by napping value, the old adage that horses don't know what price they are rings true. like i said above i have made about £1,000 quid just on my naps to a tenner, how many short price "nappers" on here can boast the same? You say and i quote "if its your thing" my thing is to make money out of the fun of watching and studying horse races. i respect what you are saying about you dont look at racing every day so why not just look at 1 race a day and pop one in the comp ad hoc takes only seconds and at least it gives you a shout.

I enjoy horse racing full stop, although losing runs can get you down, but yes money is the main objective, even if you only win a few quid. I’ve probably came across the wrong way, and to be honest I’m not fussed whether the rules change or not, but I wish you luck with your approach .  To narrow my selections down I only bet on class 2 and no higher than Grade 2. Basically that’s what I’ve done this week, I’ll scan cards and pick a race out and put the selection as nap in the nap thread, although I probably won’t see the month out as I’ll miss a few days then think sod it.  

If napping your selections at big prices is your thing then fair play to you. If you put the work and effort into finding big priced selections that you think are overpriced or can out run their odds, then that cannot be knocked. I’m as against short odd naps as I am big priced naps. If someone is napping ridiculously short odds all the time then where is the work in that, and where’s the value . 4/5 is as low as I’d go with a nap. Saying that a nap is meant to be the most likely winner of the day isn’t it? Personally I don’t like doing naps because I don’t look at all the races so how would I know which is the most likely winner of the day. I suppose nap can mean different things to different people. When I do my selections I always have one horse in my head who I think is my best chance of winning some money that day, so that’s my own personal nap. I’ve entered this months nap competition, but I doubt I’ll see it through because I just don’t look at racing everyday. 

Quite interesting thread, Long shots v short odds nap, A separate yearly total prize is a good idea, personally i would increase the minimum selection requirement to 20 or 25 from the current 15. it would stop people from winning by not napping. the suggestion that people napping long shots "for luck" is valid in some cases but the proof is in the pudding, 10 quid on every one of my naps since i joined (4 months) would have netted you about £1000 i have been in profit for each of the last 4 months and if it wasn't for my 50/1 dead heating for 4th place on the last day of september i would have topped the table 2 out of the four months i have been on here, can anyone napping short prices say the same? @Villa Chris @The Equaliser i occasionally do nap a short one but only where i think its my only option. i detected a bit of snobbery on some of the comments, i put more work into my racing and selecting than people would have others believe. One thing everybody should know but some don't like to admit, is you cant make a profit backing favs that's for sure.

Food for thought..(I'm a newbie, so I won't be offended if you dismiss this idea! I'm used to it!).
The competition for most wins encourages safe bets
The competition for highest p/l encourages huge odds with people trying to get lucky(i've only joined in this month and have already fallen in this trap)
A solution could be to introduce a "score column" which is the product of the P/L x the number of wins. This would encourage safe, but not too safe bets, discourage the one off big odds hunters, and also encourage/reward members to play every day.
On a slightly different note, I've been on this site a while(passively) and I think you're all doing a great job with the comps and forums, thank you.

Food for thought..(I'm a newbie, so I won't be offended if you dismiss this idea! I'm used to it!).
The competition for most wins encourages safe bets
The competition for highest p/l encourages huge odds with people trying to get lucky(i've only joined in this month and have already fallen in this trap)
A solution could be to introduce a "score column" which is the product of the P/L x the number of wins. This would encourage safe, but not too safe bets, discourage the one off big odds hunters, and also encourage/reward members to play every day.
On a slightly different note, I've been on this site a while(passively) and I think you're all doing a great job with the comps and forums, thank you.

11:30 Lingfield   Dame Denali 50/1   Mistress Nellie 25/1 (Skybet paying 5)
19:00 Kemptom   Kesarina 9/1   Thanielle 9/1 (Skybet paying 4)
4 x £2.50 EW doubles