** March Poker League Result : =1st Bridscott, =1st Like2Fish, 3rd avongirl **
** Cheltenham Tipster Competition Result : 1st Old codger, 2nd sirspread, 3rd Bathtime For Rupert **
LeMale
-
Posts
1,609 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
6
Reputation Activity
-
-
LeMale reacted to Peter York in Naps - Monday 22nd April
2.52 Pontefract
Bolster - each way (15/2 BetVictor)
-
LeMale reacted to HERE in Naps - Monday 22nd April
The Brickey Ranger
19.10 Tramore
18/1 bet365
Each way
-
LeMale reacted to bymatrix in Naps - Sunday 21st April
3.15 Tramore Roxhill Roise ( each way ) 8/1 Bet Victor
-
-
-
LeMale reacted to MCLARKE in HORSE RACING VARIABLES
There has been debate in the Speed Ratings thread about the importance of going and distance. This has raised the question about which are the most important variables to consider when making selections. I will start with my list in order of importance. Please fell free to comment or add your own lists.
Odds (both current race and previous race, exclude long odds)
Days since last run (higher preferred)
Race distance v distance of previous races
Finishing position of previous runs (not including last run)
Draw (this list is for flat racing only)
Number of runs
Number of runs (current season)
Going
Weight
Class movement
Country horse bred in
Race distance
Claiming jockey
Winning / losing distance of last race
Turf / AW
Weight v previous run
Official Rating
Finish position last run
Same / different jockey
Same / different course
Number of runners in previous race
Sex of horse
Age
Previous course
Handicap / non handicap
Official rating v last run
Official rating v last winning run
Maiden / non maiden
Course winner
Races since last win
Month
Course
Distance winner
Beaten favourite
-
LeMale reacted to MCLARKE in SPEED RATINGS
Indeed, it is best to stick to the KISS system, I never use more than 5 criteria in any system that I use
I did find today's selection of Giselles Izzy strange, 30 races over 6 or 7 furlongs with reasonable success but today dropped to 5 furlongs, maybe trying to get the handicap mark down
-
LeMale reacted to Zilzalian in SPEED RATINGS
The distance angle depends on the age of a horse. EG this time of year most of last years 2yo horses are stepping up in distance, but lets say you have a moderate 5 year old that has never won over the distance that is stepping up in trip it is usually a desperate attempt by the trainer to try something new, we see this at all levels including group races. With speed figures you basically have 2 choices 1. Use the pure figure or 2. Try to chip away using a list of criteria that you have to decide which one to back in a tight handicap. Big problem i have identified is that you can end up with too many variables thus end up throwing the baby out with the bath water. Think of all the variables/considerations you can come up with and list them to see what i mean and then post them on here. Others will quickly point out which ones you missed off your list.
-
LeMale reacted to MCLARKE in SPEED RATINGS
You could well be right, distance could be a key factor. It may well be that I only use a speed figure if it was produced over the same distance and going.
I've thought I've discovered many gold mines over the years but they ultimately only produced a few small nuggets.
-
LeMale got a reaction from yossa6133 in SPEED RATINGS
Oh i doubt there will be anything i would/could contribute to help you along your path, but you've given me a good chuckle that you thought i could. It just goes to show what i know, i assumed (wrongly) that any speed rating on a horse would have to be at the distance it was racing at, first and foremost. Thinking as i type and have just had a winner in the 515, (yippee) i use an example of the poor horses that are not quite sprinters, 5/6f, and can't last a mile, but excel over 7f and as far as i know, there are no classic's or decent races over that distance. (sorry if i'm wrong on that) To me, taking speed figures from 6f races and 8f races when their best distance is 7f, just seems strange. What i've just said is just an example of course and not explained very well, but i hope you get what i'm getting at? Seems to be coming along anyway and you've already had a few winners from it, just think how good it will be when you have all your facts and figures input into it...will be a gold mine!!!
-
LeMale got a reaction from MCLARKE in SPEED RATINGS
Oh i doubt there will be anything i would/could contribute to help you along your path, but you've given me a good chuckle that you thought i could. It just goes to show what i know, i assumed (wrongly) that any speed rating on a horse would have to be at the distance it was racing at, first and foremost. Thinking as i type and have just had a winner in the 515, (yippee) i use an example of the poor horses that are not quite sprinters, 5/6f, and can't last a mile, but excel over 7f and as far as i know, there are no classic's or decent races over that distance. (sorry if i'm wrong on that) To me, taking speed figures from 6f races and 8f races when their best distance is 7f, just seems strange. What i've just said is just an example of course and not explained very well, but i hope you get what i'm getting at? Seems to be coming along anyway and you've already had a few winners from it, just think how good it will be when you have all your facts and figures input into it...will be a gold mine!!!
-
LeMale reacted to MCLARKE in SPEED RATINGS
I don't profess to be an expert on speed figures, I am learning as I go along. Feel free to ask any questions you thing of, it will probably help me to look at aspects I haven't considered.
At the moment I am only using data for the current season and the previous season and I am limiting my comparison to the going, I am not taking the distance into account, that will be the next stage.
Giselles Izzy achieved its top rating on GF at Carlisle over 6 furlongs. Its best rating on GS was last June when it won a 15 runner handicap over 6 furlongs. All of its last 30 runs have been over 6 or 7 furlongs so perhaps the fact it was over 5 today explains the 28/1 odds.
I'm not sure which has the biggest impact on performance, going or distance. Hopefully my analysis will point me in the right direction. Previous work I've done indicates that the impact is overstated, we will see.
-
-
-
-
-
LeMale reacted to Carole-dawney in Naps - Friday 19th April
1.30 fontwell snap dance 18/1 e/w bet365
-
LeMale reacted to mickyftm32 in Naps - Friday 19th April
Snapdance 13.30 Fontwell
12/1 BetVictor - EW
-
LeMale reacted to Kingdom for in Naps - Thursday 18th April
Ripon Thursday 14:32 Tokyo Bay Win Betfair/
-
LeMale reacted to Peter York in Naps - Thursday 18th April
1.50 Newmarket
Chief Mankato - each way (20/1 Betfair)
-
-
LeMale got a reaction from Kingdom for in Naps - Tuesday 16th April
1605 N - Usuario Amigo @ 200-1 ew Bet365
-
LeMale reacted to Tedthewolf in Racing Chat - Thursday 18th April
2pts e/w 1.50 NM WOODHAY WONDER 10/1 1-5 1/5 not Bog (Ryan Moores mount Blue Prince look the main threat)
-