MCLARKE
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Good idea with a separate spread, I know @Zilzalian produces his own speed ratings.
Out of interest, where do you get the winning times from ?
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@Trotter replied
that's true ! ...... I usually do AW when I bother with them
In fact I did do AW speed ratings for a good 3 or 4 years a few years ago and found it a good basis for assessing races. It's OK over the winter but during the summer horses flit between AW and Turf so you never have the full picture of how they're running from race to race. The main problem is that there is far too much racing ...... it would be a full time job to rate all races. It might be practical to do it for Irish racing where they have a lot fewer meetings
If you do fancy a crack at compiling your own ratings it might be an idea to have a separate thread where all the speed ratings posts can be grouped together ..... it's a topic that crops up every now and then but the posts get lost in the daily threads
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Speed figures are on my to do list. I think I'll start with the all weather, should be simpler than the turf.
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This is the first post that was posted in the daily chat by @Trotter
I don't think there's any way I'm going to keep this up but thought I'd do some speed figures for todays Curragh meeting. I'd like to do ratings for every meeting that includes a Group race but I don't imagine I will .... It'll soon become a chore that I give up on
Here's the ratings of todays winners - highest to lowest
Procrastinate 102,
Real Force 101,
Brilliant 98,
Money Dancer 93,
Arizona Blaze (2) 90,
Chazzesmee 90,
Merisi Diamond 88,
Global Energy 83This was run on Heavy ground and my going allowance was 88 ...... so the bulk of all the above figures is going allowance
eg Procrastinate ran a figure of 14 then got his 88 going allowance added on
note that my ratings are in lengths per mile ...... so Procrastinate would be 18 lengths per mile quicker than Global Energy ....... in a mile race I'd expect him to beat him by 18 lengths
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I know some of us are interested in speed figures and it has been suggested that we have a separate thread where we can discuss these and publish speed figures / results / methodolgy etc.
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Good idea with a separate spread, I know @Zilzalianproduces his own speed ratings.
Out of interest, where do you get the winning times from ?
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A fantastic 66/1 winner for @HERE, Clinton Lane overturning the 1/4 favourite at Fontwell, sees him leap to the top of the table
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30 minutes ago, Zilzalian said:
Explain the reasoning behind an ew fourfold and in particular the place aspect at prices 5/1, 15/8, 13/8 & 9/4. I really am genuinely curious. @harry_rag if these prices were on football how would you treat them? @MCLARKE you are into your maths, what are your thoughts are there any merits in your view?
There could be some logic if there are extra places available.
However the benefits are better the higher the odds so the each way element will dilute the winnings / increase the losses.
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Speed figures are on my to do list. I think I'll start with the all weather, should be simpler than the turf.
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NH selection
Fontwell 2.13
MOUNT WASHINGTON
- black rabbit and azzybear
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Newcastle 7.30
FOREVER NOAH
£20 win BSP
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NEWCASTLE 7.00
RISHI 5/1
BET365
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52 minutes ago, Trotter said:
the 4.10 - The Irish Lincolnshire. Twenty runner handicap ....... my idea of hell ! You can stick your own pins in this one !
With some bookies offering 6 places you might make a profit with that pin !
- Bedlam, black rabbit, azzybear and 2 others
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On 3/16/2024 at 11:31 PM, The Equaliser said:
I do write them up quite regularly but tend to just quote YTD figures. Since you ask I have updated my figures to include today's bets. Lucky 15's YTD = -46.66; Racing Chat (RC) YTD including L15's = -52.64 Points.
I was a bit annoyed with myself today for not backing my Nap selection Slipaway independently of the L15
Surely you can't retire, who will check up on me regularly 🤣
To be fair to @The Equaliserhe is one of the few that do seem to keep accurate records !
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Huntingdon 3.52
HAVOCK
A hurdle system, career starts less than 18, claiming jockey, not mares or fillies
Also trained by Dan Skelton who has done well over the last few days
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1 hour ago, LEE-GRAYS said:
Any reason for the change of bookie ?
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SPEED RATINGS
in At The Races - Racing Forum
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@Trotter replied
Just the Racing Post and I use their standard times
I think the 'art' in the process comes from working out allowances ...... as for race times the Post has a huge database so their times should be as good as any and as long as you use the same set of times all the time it doesn't really matter ....... it's not absolute figures that matter it's relative figures between horses !