MCLARKE
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Doncaster 1.55
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53 minutes ago, Trotter said:
One problem if you really want to get obsessive about compiling your own figures is course configuration in the sense that courses might have variable going on different parts of the track. If you think about a large tract of land out in the country with dips and hollows and undulations it's evident that water will gather in the lower lying parts of the track ........ and the going will be softer there. So for example there might be a marked going difference between the round course which goes out into the country and a straight track........ and many race courses have both round and straight tracks
Very difficult to assess this with a small sample size of maybe 3 races on the straight and 3 on the round at a particular meeting
That's one advantage of AW racing ....... the tracks are flat (Ling has a bit of undulation) so the 'going' tends to be uniform across all distances
There are many problems with speed ratings, I suppose the evidence for me will be if I can make any money out of it !
The small sample sizes used to calculate the all important going allowance is a concern, especially if you take out the outliers. The going often changes during a meeting and is probably different between the first race and the last race.
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On 3/21/2024 at 10:23 PM, Systemight said:
As a young man i did speed figures for two year olds on the flat(there was no all weather racing back then) and had some success,and certainly a lot better knowledge of the form book.
However, while i started with enthusiasm,i soon found the workload a bit of a chore,particularly when the losing runs hit.What finally put me off then(as still happens now),was the constant moving of the rails making distances longer or shorter than the officially stated.Thus (to my eyes at least), made the ratings at best unreliable.
Interesting to see him mentioned here, and as an author i think Nick Mordin had few peers,indeed his book "Betting For a Living" was in my opinion the best book on horse racing betting that i have ever read.His book on speed ratings however lagged behind Andy Beyer's work "Beyer On Speed"(again only in my opinion).
One must remember that Nick Mordin's phoneline (as there was back then) was regularly listed as one of the most unprofitable Horse Racing service around, costing his devoted followers dear-clearly the man could talk the talk,but couldn't really walk the walk-well not when the money was down anyway.
Nick was last heard of having retired from Journalism to go and live in South Africa,a big loss to us all, as he had many thought provoking and innovative ideas...
I wonder if Nick's lack of success with his phoneline was the same reason with good tipsters today, the bets quickly become overbet.
I will persevere for the time being. I was intending to produce speed figures for both GB and Irish racing, however the Irish don't have the same classification ratings as the GB so I'll stick with GB for the time being.
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Doncaster 1.20
CHARYN 27/10
£20 win BETMGM 20% price boost
Won. SP 2/1
Daily profit £ 54
Monthly profit £ 280.52
- Trotter and Nigwilliam
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£3 profit yesterday
Total profit £ 1,367.21
Doncaster 1.20 CHARYN 27/10 £20 20% boost
Doncaster 4.45 AT LIBERTY 27/5 £20 20% boost
Newbury 2.40 HELTENHAM 27/20 £20 10% boost
Newbury 4.25 RATH GAUL HILL 49/20 £20 10% boost
ENGLAND 10/11 £5
- Nigwilliam, yossa6133 and black rabbit
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NEWCASTLE 5.30
ELOPED 3/1
BET365
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AW selection
Newcastle 8.00
MOON FLIGHT
- Gary66, The Equaliser, anaconda69 and 2 others
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Doncaster 1.20
CHARYN 27/10
£20 win BETMGM 20% price boost
- The Equaliser and Bronxie
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From @bymatrix
2.17 Navan Union Station ( each way ) 4/1 Bet 365
3.50 Newbury Crest of Fortune ( each way ) 9/2 Bet 365
8.15 Wolverhampton Kingwell ( each way ) 11/2 Bet 365
Reserves
6.30 Newcastle Star Jasmine ( each way ) 7/2 William Hill
8.00 Newcastle Bonito Cavalo ( each way ) 5/1 William Hill
Thanks MC and best of luck to John
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Apologies I forgot, I'll transfer to a proper thread
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£1.10 loss yesterday
Total profit £ 1,364.16
Dundalk 7.00 AISLING OSCAR 13/2 £2
NIGERIA 1/1 £5
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Lingfield 4.20
TWILIGHT DANCER
£20 win BSP
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AW selection
Lingfield 3.12
TRIBAL WISDOM
- Henry Brown, Bedlam, black rabbit and 1 other
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NEWCASTLE 5.15
TIBERIO FORCE 15/8
BV
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£7 loss yesterday
Total profit £ 1,365.26
PETER WRIGHT 7/1 £5
GEORGIA 10/13 £5
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Southwell 5.30
MEMORIES MAKER
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SOUTHWELL 8.30
NEY 9/4
BET365
BLACK FRIDAY OFFERS
in At The Races - Racing Forum
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CHARYN won (2/1), HELTENHAM won (1/1) and RATH GAUL HILL won (100/30) for a profit of £106 less £10 blakjack
Total profit £ 1,463.21
Doncaster 1.55 BUST A MOVE 18/5 £20 20% boost
Doncaster 3.05 BERNARDO O'REILLY 13/2 £20 20% boost
SURINAME 23/20 £5