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Good Morning. Little tip today (or the one to avoid lol, not brave enough to put it on the "£20.00 Daily Challenge"). 3.20 Epsom, Qitaal. Justin.

Exchanges ? Bookies shop with fake wig & muzzie in case they recognise you ? 3.10 Yarmouth - LUCENTIO 9/2 William Hill . 4.55 Yarmouth - SHE IS A KEEPER 9/2 Coral .

210 epsom Looking for Lynda 8.5 9/1 Mountain peak. 8.5 10/1 Clearpoint. 8.2 Tricky race with lots of questions marks but I'll try 2pt Ew on top 2 as they look a bit of value

I'm having a small punt on these two horses (obviously). 14:10 at Epsom Downs Reverse forecast LOOKING FOR LYNDA & LIHOU. I'm betting that both horses finish in the first 4.

505 epsom Mr baloo likes it here at epsom ...has a fitness edge having won at kemp and has the services of Alec voikhanksky who's good for his claim of 3lb ....should run well 5pt win 100/30

ON THE RIVER won yesteday at 3/1 + 3 losers for a breakeven day. Current profit 5.54 points. Top rated today is Crystal Delight but that was achieved on the AW. 2nd top rated in that race is DUAL IDENTITY and it is top rated on todays good going. Available at 6/1, I'll have a bet at BSP. Top rated in total and on the going are Epsom 3.55 WYNTER WILDES 15/1 - Ladbrokes EW (4 places) Epsom 4.30 MIDAIR 5/4 - BSP Epsom 5.05 MR BALOO 10/3 - BSP Yarmouth 2.00 READY OR NOT 8/1 - BETMGM Yarmouth 4.20 SPANISH MANE 80/1 - BETMGM EW (4 places) Yarmouth 5.25 BATCHELOR BOY 5/1 - BSP

145 S Borodale 3/1 A lucky winner lto but was seemingly cruising up on hvy to challenge until 2 out when hit the hurdle and lost momentum. Unexposed yet and first try over fences today. Murphy 12 from 29 41% at Southwell this year.

AW selection Wolverhampton 6.00 HAMPDEN

greetings everyone !! how y'all doing ?? hope you're having a good week so far. 2.25 tipperary - four leaf shamrock 33/1 ew 5.10 gowran park - eirinn rua 200/1 (throw something little on it ew, i think he will place)

What bookie is that with? I'm not sure how to do it. EDIT. sorry I realised you probably meant 2 separate bets on them to finish in the top 4.

Southwell 2.18 SPAGO 33/10 £20 win BETMGM 10% boost

Jeteye 5:50 Southwell (3/1). Just following the money on this one 16's into 3's. Looks a likely type for a bit of a plot, with the step up in trip, tongue strap on and better ground. 1pt win 3/1 (bet365) P/L: -4.3pts.

-2.55 .25 ew L15

last 3 years Lisowski has reached Last 16, QF, Last 16 at the Worlds. Ding has gone out at the 1st round for the last 3 years running. Interesting match but I think the value is with Jack

Yarm 310 Daymer Bay 9/1 £10 ew bet365 4pl.

+174 245 E Arabic Legend 7/2 €20 win

popped another one.. This was excellent.. I didn't bet on her but was really tempted to do it.. Great information.. I look forward to see what you have for tomorrow's qualies. There is so many options to choose from. I also think it's cool that you are specializing in women's tennis. This was a perfect tip because the odds on Errani must have been huge after losing the first set. I was at the casino playing blackjack during the match.. so I had no idea what was going on.

1750 Southwell Mahler Moon 5/2

Betway are so shit! The only ones still not priced up and all I'm watching is the price falling on these two 🤦🏼‍♂️

There has been debate in the Speed Ratings thread about the importance of going and distance. This has raised the question about which are the most important variables to consider when making selections. I will start with my list in order of importance. Please fell free to comment or add your own lists. Odds (both current race and previous race, exclude long odds) Days since last run (higher preferred) Race distance v distance of previous races Finishing position of previous runs (not including last run) Draw (this list is for flat racing only) Number of runs Number of runs (current season) Going Weight Class movement Country horse bred in Race distance Claiming jockey Winning / losing distance of last race Turf / AW Weight v previous run Official Rating Finish position last run Same / different jockey Same / different course Number of runners in previous race Sex of horse Age Previous course Handicap / non handicap Official rating v last run Official rating v last winning run Maiden / non maiden Course winner Races since last win Month Course Distance winner Beaten favourite

2nd. + £3. + £37

He can't win this weekend... he's not entered lol. It's the Zurich Classic of New Orleans event thingy where they play in doubles. You'd think players would be climbing over each other for a chance to play with the Winning machine haha. It will be a no bet event for me though I will be closely following who will perform best out of the brothers pairings, we have: The Fitzpatrick's (Matt and Alex) The Coody's (Parker and Pierceson) The Hojgaard's (Nicolai and Rasmus) It will be like the golfing version of Family Fortunes lol.

I used to have a Ford Capri Coupe ! Don't start me with a rugby try. I had a heated debate with some of my rugby playing mates about whether the plural is trys or tries.

I guess this thread illustrates a couple of things; why racing is so fascinating as a betting medium for many people and why for me, from a “keep it simpler” perspective, I’ve ended up specialising in selling on the spreads and backing goal and tryscorers. I do make “studied” bets on goalscorers where additional variables are weighed (games played/started, number of games scored in, last 10 or 20 game goals scored, even xG etc sometimes) but the main anytime systems run off just two variables; best bookies price and spread price for player goal minutes. From just that I make most of my selections and turn a reasonable profit. A lot of data gathering and analysis went into getting to where I am now but I can look at a game and identify the bets in a coupe of minutes. The spreads are simpler still as the only variable is the spread price. Having identified the markets where the price is set so high that the sell price will almost always offer value you just blindly sell anything that meets your chosen minimum price. The golden age has gone in that respect though now there’s effectively only one firm. Firstly the edge has been reduced as there’s only one set of prices and secondly we’re left with a firm that won’t hesitate to limit or close successful punters. I’ve never really looked at the spread betting markets on racing but my gut feel is that they won’t fall into the “selling blindly” space though you’re more likely to find value in opposing a horse than backing one. I’m also not sure if they’d be as useful as a predictive tool as the goal/try minute prices are.

I would have pace of race as my number one,past form and potential pace for todays race

4.20 kempton happy boy 7/1 e/w bet365

Now put them in order of importance, i would take a good guess that different punters put them in different orders. You could add on stopwatch (RP) big fields v small fields and even naps the list is almost endless. Once you made your selection, The big question i would ask is- what was it based on? did you end up using speed figures or form?

Trainer form maybe, always something I think I should pay more attention to! What the actual ground is compared to the going description i.e working your ratings out after the time of first race is known. Saw someone say recently that they never bet on the first race for this reason. Temperature, there must be horses out there that only perform when it's warm. Not seen much about this but it would make sense. Market mover? Drifted like a barge or smashed in.

I like to keep things simple ! I mainly look at handicaps and at the following ......... class movement - obviously dropping in class preferred, this related to handicap marks trip - D win or some reason why a horse might improve for a new trip going track configuration (particularly uphill finishes, straight/bend) I look at the last 3 as a combined factor trip/track/going ......... will the horse be effective at this trip on this track on today's going that's mainly it I will check trainer form to see if the yard is horribly out of form or banging winners in left, right and centre and draw if the trip/track/going favours one side Days since run I might look at to see how a horse goes after a break (this combined with trainer form) these last few things mainly to see if there's any reason to abandon a selection I've made by looking at class and trip/track/going

Made me laugh .....my computer uses 17 of your list as I worked down so they must all have a big effect ...lol 🤣

When I first started betting back in the early 80s I used to follow tipsters, mostly Newsboy from the Daily Mirror (a good socialist rag). I struggled to make a profit, probably because his tips were widely followed. As I am always on the quest for value rather than winners it might make sense to bet against popular tipsters as their selections are probably overbet. My data doesn't include such tipsters data so it's not an area I can really comment on with authority. Spread betting (for racing) still on my to do list !

To be flippant, who’s tipped a horse on here when I’ve got a freebie or offer to utilise! But, for some people maybe tipster selections/naps can be a positive or negative signals as part of a selection process. Then there’s spread betting prices, something I suspect hardly any racing punters would pay any heed to. Probably a red herring as my gut feel is they wouldn’t be of much use for that sport, but they’re hugely predictive for me in betting on goal and tryscorers so, if I was ever going to take a proper tilt at betting on racing I’d want to explore that angle if only to eliminate it

2.52 Pontefract Bolster - each way (15/2 BetVictor)

The Brickey Ranger 19.10 Tramore 18/1 bet365 Each way